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Yup... we need to take the lose, move on, and shore up in a red state for battle #2
I kinda wish that instead of everyone fleeing CA, we'd have more people from red states moving here instead, to fight alongside us on our home turf. I feel like making CA an even bigger democrat stronghold by abandoning it isn't really helping either this state nor the country as a whole, it's just a temporary solution for the person who's fleeing.

That said, I also can't blame anyone for leaving. I often want to, as well.
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I kinda wish that instead of everyone fleeing CA, we'd have more people from red states moving here instead, to fight alongside us on our home turf. I feel like making CA an even bigger democrat stronghold by abandoning it isn't really helping either this state nor the country as a whole, it's just a temporary solution for the person who's fleeing.

That said, I also can't blame anyone for leaving. I often want to, as well.
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25% are foreign born here and think it's great, at least compared to the sh*thole they came from. Others are programmed by the government propaganda centers (public schools).

It would have to get much worse here for those people to care. Californians have not suffered enough pain yet. Those that have voted with their feet creating a void filled by homeless and immigrants.
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I kinda wish that instead of everyone fleeing CA, we'd have more people from red states moving here instead, to fight alongside us on our home turf. I feel like making CA an even bigger democrat stronghold by abandoning it isn't really helping either this state nor the country as a whole, it's just a temporary solution for the person who's fleeing.

That said, I also can't blame anyone for leaving. I often want to, as well.
It would be a waste of time and there are not enough of us ... we need to consolidate... not diversify... EDIT, another thing,... If I said this even 5 years ago, people on this site would literally call me the devil and crucify me... but look how time is agreeing with my theory... every year that goes by in CA, the worse it gets in spite of all the fighting here..

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Divided we fall. Instead of scattering we should unite.
We should consolidate to a state where we still have SOME DUE PROCESS... and then fight like a mother for her child...
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We should consolidate to a state where we still have SOME DUE PROCESS... and then fight like a mother for her child...
What makes anyone think that those who ran away from a fight in one state will fight in another? You're going to build a team and you are going to chose the very people who ran away from some other place? No one really wants them. That is why they hang out here telling you how they just bought this or that or sit on every thread talking about things that don't apply to anyone living in California. Think about it.

Consolidate? Another word for bunch together like lambs going to slaughter. Wild pigs consolidate, birds consolidate, fish consolidate and all are prey to the predators who feast on them endlessly.

Why not consolidate into one county or region in California and start from there? Why aren't conservatives and all those who embrace the 2nd/A just going to some county in California and establishing and stronghold there and then building on that? What is stopping them? For one thing, running away is easier. Opportunity? There is plenty right here. Everything is right here if instead of running away they just moved to conservative areas and made sure those never fall into liberal hands. Then they elect the Sheriff and on and on. So what if you can't get some new SIG pistol- is that all people think about, which shiney new gun they can get?
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An interesting thing I noticed about the recall vote counts, it appears that almost everyone who voted "No" didn't answer Question #2 at all. Elder took over 47% of that vote, followed very distantly by Paffrath with less than 10%.

Kind of nullifies the argument that we kept seeing around here about how "splitting the vote is going to cause another D to replace Newsom". Turns out that was never really a concern, even if the recall succeeded. Elder's voters could've been split up evenly amongst 3 other R's and we still wouldn't have had a D win.

We lost this election, but that doesn't mean we can't pull some useful information from it for later
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There are a estimated 2.9 million ballots still to be counted. San Diego, LA & Alameda counties apparently have the largest number of ballots yet to be counted. SacBee & Fresno Bee both reporting this. Approx 9.6 million votes have been tallied so far.
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What makes anyone think that those who ran away from a fight in one state will fight in another? You're going to build a team and you are going to chose the very people who ran away from some other place? No one really wants them. That is why they hang out here telling you how they just bought this or that or sit on every thread talking about things that don't apply to anyone living in California. Think about it.

Consolidate? Another word for bunch together like lambs going to slaughter. Wild pigs consolidate, birds consolidate, fish consolidate and all are prey to the predators who feast on them endlessly.

Why not consolidate into one county or region in California and start from there? Why aren't conservatives and all those who embrace the 2nd/A just going to some county in California and establishing and stronghold there and then building on that? What is stopping them? For one thing, running away is easier. Opportunity? There is plenty right here. Everything is right here if instead of running away they just moved to conservative areas and made sure those never fall into liberal hands. Then they elect the Sheriff and on and on. So what if you can't get some new SIG pistol- is that all people think about, which shiney new gun they can get?
That's feel good banter.. it's not about giving up ... it's about consolidating power... like I said in a post above, tell me the projection of politics in CA that gives us any hope?? can you?? CA is gone bro...
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Republicans have lost Orange County, and it's a stark harbinger for their future. Newsom took OC with 51% of the vote in 2018, and gained support in defeating the recall with 52% of the vote. What was once reliable GOP territory continues to shift, to the advantage of Democrats.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/u...ge-county.html
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An interesting thing I noticed about the recall vote counts, it appears that almost everyone who voted "No" didn't answer Question #2 at all. Elder took over 47% of that vote, followed very distantly by Paffrath with less than 10%.

Kind of nullifies the argument that we kept seeing around here about how "splitting the vote is going to cause another D to replace Newsom". Turns out that was never really a concern, even if the recall succeeded. Elder's voters could've been split up evenly amongst 3 other R's and we still wouldn't have had a D win.

We lost this election, but that doesn't mean we can't pull some useful information from it for later
that is because on the ballot, it is said that if you vote "No" on the recall you do not choose a replacement candidate.

so the only people voting for a replacement candidate are those we vote "Yes" and Elder and Cox were the only real names even mentioned on the news and Elder was the only one mentioned by Gavin himself.
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That's feel good banter.. it's not about giving up ... it's about consolidating power... like I said in a post above, tell me the projection of politics in CA that gives us any hope?? can you?? CA is gone bro...
Consolidating power? Where, what state? It isn't like everyone in California that is leaving is going to the same place. Californians who leave and go elsewhere aren't an influence where they end up. They are refugees.

If California is gone as you say it isn't because of anything but conservatives rolling over. It wasn't like conservatives gave away Rhode Island, it was the most populous state in the Union. Once that was given away why does anyone dream the other states won't fall too? Those are different people?

You tell me, if conservatives moved to northern California where there is conservative consolidation then with enough population there might be some power there. But noooo, lets move to some other state and say we'll consolidate. They could consolidate all of Northern CA and push for a State split. If you say that couldn't happen then exactly how does moving to another state make anything happen?

Consolidation is called fish in a barrel. Why? Because if conservatives rolled over and gifted the democrat's the state of California why are they suddenly going to fight some good fight elsewhere?

I'll tell you the political outlook for California. Its going to stay the same because now the democrats have it. Democrats don't have to spend money or effort on California so now the democrats can just use the entire state to go after other states. Can you say Nevada and Oregon?

So explain this consolidation because it sure seems to be the big secret no one else knows about.
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that is because on the ballot, it is said that if you vote "No" on the recall you do not choose a replacement candidate.

so the only people voting for a replacement candidate are those we vote "Yes" and Elder and Cox were the only real names even mentioned on the news and Elder was the only one mentioned by Gavin himself.
That's entirely wrong. I read my ballot thoroughly, and it had no such claim.
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That's entirely wrong. I read my ballot thoroughly, and it had no such claim.
Indeed, there was no such instruction on the ballot.

I think the reason for it was more due to Gavin explicitly telling his voters to pick "No" on question #1, and to leave question #2 blank. His reasoning was purely selfish - he decided it would look worse for him to be replaced by another democrat, than to be replaced by a republican. Losing to a Republican, he could just say "blame the Trump supporters" or some similar nonsense, and he could run for public office again in the future with some chance for success. Whereas losing to a Democrat would mean he's such a terrible governor that even his own party hates him, and his career in the public life would be over. Thus, he recommended/implied that everybody should let a Republican win if he gets recalled.

It blows my mind that 63% of people didn't see right through that for what it really was - selfish, with complete disregard for the state. He'd rather let the state be run by the party he claims is destroying America, than risk any damage to his career. That says a lot about who he is as a person - but somehow, nobody was listening.
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The numbers are not even remotely a close race. This isn't a matter of if they are capable of stealing the election. This is a matter of having no need to steal the election, because 2/3rds of California voters are fecking morons.

I think a lot of people here tend to forget that Calguns is not an accurate representation of the people in this state. Not even close. The overwhelming majority of people in this state absolutely LOVE gavin and would happily give him a reacharound if given the opportunity.

If you actually think that a majority of this state wants to replace Newsom with a Republican, then you're the one who is delusional.

I mean, look... I made sure I voted. I made sure to tell everyone I know to vote. But I also knew there was very little chance in succeeding. But we had to at least try. You can't win if you don't play, and all that jazz. But to think that CA voters would decide to eject a D and replace him with an R is truly obtuse.

If it was a super close race, then I'd be right on board with you saying we should at least investigate the potential for voter fraud. But come on, this was not even remotely close.
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Consolidating power? Where, what state? It isn't like everyone in California that is leaving is going to the same place. Californians who leave and go elsewhere aren't an influence where they end up. They are refugees.

If California is gone as you say it isn't because of anything but conservatives rolling over. It wasn't like conservatives gave away Rhode Island, it was the most populous state in the Union. Once that was given away why does anyone dream the other states won't fall too? Those are different people?

You tell me, if conservatives moved to northern California where there is conservative consolidation then with enough population there might be some power there. But noooo, lets move to some other state and say we'll consolidate. They could consolidate all of Northern CA and push for a State split. If you say that couldn't happen then exactly how does moving to another state make anything happen?

Consolidation is called fish in a barrel. Why? Because if conservatives rolled over and gifted the democrat's the state of California why are they suddenly going to fight some good fight elsewhere?

I'll tell you the political outlook for California. Its going to stay the same because now the democrats have it. Democrats don't have to spend money or effort on California so now the democrats can just use the entire state to go after other states. Can you say Nevada and Oregon?

So explain this consolidation because it sure seems to be the big secret no one else knows about.
You're missing the part about California being run by Demo's over the last decade or more.
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I love everyone's responses, what rubbish ya'll spew.... think about it long and hard THEY WERE ABLE TO STEAL A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION this whas a tiny one state election and if you think they couldn't accomplish that you're truly obtuse.

Not me.. I know what's up homie.. i've been trying to tell people here that we are thinking small while the left is thinking BIG..
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You're missing the part about California being run by Demo's over the last decade or more.
You can lead a horse to water LOL its not his fault.. I was in his line of thinking about 5 years ago..
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I love everyone's responses, what rubbish ya'll spew.... think about it long and hard THEY WERE ABLE TO STEAL A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION this whas a tiny one state election and if you think they couldn't accomplish that you're truly obtuse.
You seem out of touch, and suspect to false claims. There was no stolen presidential election. Biden beat trump fair and square.
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You seem out of touch, and suspect to false claims. There was no stolen presidential election. Biden beat trump fair and square.

He was such an inspiring candidate too.
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You seem out of touch, and suspect to false claims. There was no stolen presidential election. Biden beat trump fair and square.
If one accepts your view as accurate and correct, that is strong evidence that the majority of the voters are imbeciles. I think that for many of us it is hard to come to grips with the idea (fact?) that there are that many stupid imbeciles among us.
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If one accepts your view as accurate and correct, that is strong evidence that the majority of the voters are imbeciles. I think that for many of us it is hard to come to grips with the idea (fact?) that there are that many stupid imbeciles among us.
100 IQ is the median score amongst the population. That means nearly half of all people have a sub-100 IQ. For every person who has a 115 IQ, there's another person with an 85. That is an unfortunate mathematical fact.
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100 IQ is the median score amongst the population. That means nearly half of all people have a sub-100 IQ. For every person who has a 115 IQ, there's another person with an 85. That is an unfortunate mathematical fact.
That is why I support some kind of brief structured IQ test to be able to vote and to be on a jury.. seriously.. no joke...

Why should I let some person in an inner city with an 85 or maybe at most 90 IQ..... who has no desire to improve their lives and no desire to be productive to DICTATE MY LIFE indirectly with the essence of Communist laws, policies, and government in the form of voting...

Think about it.. its sick... it's totally sick that it is currently like this..
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100 IQ is the median score amongst the population. That means nearly half of all people have a sub-100 IQ. For every person who has a 115 IQ, there's another person with an 85. That is an unfortunate mathematical fact.
Also, the bell curve is REAL.. that is the bright pink elephant in the room... you can give an inner city 500 trillion dollars... come back in 20 years, it'll be right back the same.. IN SHAMBLES..

All this money on education.. 'community' projects... outreach... inner city programs.. ect ect only make pennies on the dollar as far as 'saving' or 'boosting' that community...maybe 1 out of 300 utilize the funding to make it to the next levels of a functional life.. its a TERRIBLY BAD RETURN.. and its failing .... these people CANNOT BE BOUGHT OUT OF THEIR SYNDROME WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS!!!!
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That is why I support some kind of brief structured IQ test to be able to vote and to be on a jury.. seriously.. no joke...

Why should I let some person in an inner city with an 85 or maybe at most 90 IQ..... who has no desire to improve their lives and no desire to be productive to DICTATE MY LIFE indirectly with the essence of Communist laws, policies, and government in the form of voting...

Think about it.. its sick... it's totally sick that it is currently like this..
Part of me wants something like that, too. But another part of me says a constitutional right shouldn't be restricted by having to pass some sort of qualifications exam. What happens when eventually "someone" decides that the exam needs to include knowledge about "alternative genders" and politically correct pronoun usage? It's a slippery slope. Granted, obviously that's exactly what leftists have done with the 2A, but two wrongs don't make a right. Stupid people being able (and even encouraged) to vote is perhaps just an unsolvable flaw in our Great Experiment that we have to live with. It could perhaps be solved via Constitutional amendment someday in the distant future, but I don't see that happening any time soon. (Contitutional amendments require super-majorities to pass, and as discussed above, it's a mathematical fact that the majority is not smart. Maybe we could exploit the fact that stupid people don't always know that they're stupid.)

A major problem is universal mail-in voting. People who otherwise couldn't be bothered to request an absentee ballot or visit a poll, because they simply don't care enough and/or lack any educated opinions about politics, are now sent an easy-peasy postage-paid ballot in the mail, that their friends and family can show them how to fill out, and which bubbles to fill (or just do it for them).
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skidmark... How apropos...
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Old 10-05-2021, 7:22 PM
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Part of me wants something like that, too. But another part of me says a constitutional right shouldn't be restricted by having to pass some sort of qualifications exam. What happens when eventually "someone" decides that the exam needs to include knowledge about "alternative genders" and politically correct pronoun usage? It's a slippery slope. Granted, obviously that's exactly what leftists have done with the 2A, but two wrongs don't make a right. Stupid people being able (and even encouraged) to vote is perhaps just an unsolvable flaw in our Great Experiment that we have to live with. It could perhaps be solved via Constitutional amendment someday in the distant future, but I don't see that happening any time soon. (Contitutional amendments require super-majorities to pass, and as discussed above, it's a mathematical fact that the majority is not smart. Maybe we could exploit the fact that stupid people don't always know that they're stupid.)

A major problem is universal mail-in voting. People who otherwise couldn't be bothered to request an absentee ballot or visit a poll, because they simply don't care enough and/or lack any educated opinions about politics, are now sent an easy-peasy postage-paid ballot in the mail, that their friends and family can show them how to fill out, and which bubbles to fill (or just do it for them).
It would also prevent about 80% of the illegal immigrants from the 3rd world from voting.. if we had even a basic IQ test for voting, this country would turn itself around in ONE election... we are letting scum dictate our lives.. LITERALLY.. no joke.. you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh1t... that is why we are in the mess we are in now... the LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR is telling the HIGHEST COMMON DENOMINATOR how to live.

When the borders were closed, it was not that big a deal..we could survive the indigenous low-information voters..... but the last 30-40 years these people, and others, have completely WRECKED our country by block voting every stupid damn Commie agenda and candidate that rolls out from the depths of hell...
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