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Concealed Carry Discussion General discussion regarding CCW/LTC in California |
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Businesses/Governments that accomodate LTC
This thread is to identify and recognize the more forward-thinking businesses and city/county government locations that are LTC friendly.
The legalities are covered in the other thread; this thread addresses the behaviors of specific entities acting legally to recognize LTC. Let us assume, with the current climate, that businesses and government facilities are LTC-hostile to some degree, whether or not there are signs posted. We don't need to hear about those - that's the default. It seems there are three categories: 1) businesses that allow their employees to carryPlease add posts here when you confirm a new member of the reasonable group! ======== This is NOT a thread on whether one should or should not obey signs, nor is it about the legalities or wisdom of allowing/denying carry in a business. Those questions are for a different thread, and have been hashed out several times; there remain differing views. ======== For example, see http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...3&postcount=13 That post indicates that Universal and Knott's are providing gun-check facilities. That whole thread is about Disneyland (California) providing the same, but there are some questions on consistency.
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I'm surprised no one has replied to this yet. Guess I'll be the first. This would be a category 2.
Camino Real Restaurante & Bar here in Bakersfield not only openly welcomes CCW holders but gives them a 15% discount on their food! Very smart business move if you ask me.
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There's also a website "friendorfoe.com" that provides an interactive capability that allows for updates as people go to various businesses, etc and find out what policies / practices / experiences are relative to 2A issues, with added specificity regarding open / concealed carry. Give it a shot... :-)
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I asked the employee manning the kiosk at the Bass Pro in Manteca about LTC holders having to check their guns. He said that Bass Pro does not require people with LTC's to check their firearms at the door.
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Thats the exact one he worked at also. My bad.
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Come on all you CCWers, just ask when your out and about. Talk to the manager of the stores and restaurants you frequent. Home Depot, Lowes, K-Mart, Cosco, Turners, Sears, Dennys, and on and on. I am in the process of getting my permit, and once in hand I'll start reporting.
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Was in a Big 5 a few day's ago, and I asked the girl that was helping me what the stores policy was pertaining to CCW. She didn't know what what that was, so after explaining to her, she said " you can't carry a gun in the store" . I asked if that was a corporate rule, and she said she wasn't sure, but would call them and ask. She came back and told me according to company policy, if I had a permit and a badge it was ok to carry, but the gun had to be unloaded. I wasn't sure what badge she had referred to, so I asked, and she said, one that says you have a permit. Does anyone here carry a badge ?
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Uh, no. Except those members who are LEO's. Oh yeah, firefighters. People who carry so-called "CCW badges" are removed from the membership rolls forthwith.*
*That part isn't necessarily true, but it should be.
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No state requires them. They're carried as an optional accessory by crazy people.
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This is a GREAT IDEA.... I am going to start asking here in Sacramento and posting the results!
Toy-R-Us, in Elk Grove, has a NO WEAPONS sign at the door, but I was told by Mgt, that was for open carry! Manager there is pro 2a and always looks to see if I have mine! Kind-of-a joke now! Cause he never knows where it is! Most of the time, shouldered and not detectable!
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Zenko Sushi in Mission Viejo.
28892 Marguerite Pkwy Mission Viejo, CA, 92692 Phone: (949) 347-0844 Owner is a Calgunner (I believe), and the place is quite good and very gun friendly.
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Also, re: IKEA: if you've ever been in one of their stores you can see what a nightmare it would be to evacuate. I think carrying in there would be a wise idea given the store layout.
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Please do remember, this thread is to point out the (from the CCW perspective) Good Guys.
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Omega Burgers with locations in Bellflower and Lakewood supports the 2nd Amendment and is LTC friendly. Great food, clean place and good service.
16310 Bellflower Blvd. Bellflower, CA 90706 11790 Del Amo Blvd. Lakewood, CA 90715 |
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"We don't have any exceptions like that. We never said that. The sign clearly states no weapons." Then you get to be a lying gun nut carrying a gun in a children's toy store! Sorry about the bad waves, Librarian. On a positive note, I saw an ad for a beginner's handgun class in an old learningexchange.com ad booklet. Not quite what was asked for.... Friendorfoe.com isn't working for me. There is a friendorfoe.us.
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I have a question though...if concealed carry means "Concealed" then why would we go around asking random workers if they allow LTC at their facility? I mean it'd be great if businesses advertised it, but honestly I'll never ask because it would only serve to draw attention to myself that I don't want.
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Asking is just asking for a stupefied look and an eventual "no." Wanna know if a business has a policy? Look for a sign. No sign, no policy.
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My wife and I recently attended a concert at the Shrine Auditorium and I was carrying IWB (downtown LA so I felt the need). Upon getting to the entrance I saw security wanding everyone before scanning their ticket. I quickly pulled out my CCW and showed it to the supervisor who nodded and let me through even though the wand went off.
Nothing else was said between us other than "have a nice show!"
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It simply means, if it is legal to carry concealed (with a CCW license or not) in a given state, and a privately owned establishment decides to have a No Guns policy, that does not make it illegal to continue to CCW in that establishment, because you are not violating the law in doing so, just that particular establishment's policy. If they discover that you are CCWing, the worst they can legally do is ask you to leave. If you refuse however, then they can call the cops for you trespassing on their property. CCW has become more popular now than ever before and this means changing the anti-gun sediment in this country. To draw the line of pro or anti-LTC businesses is another way to see who stands clearly in this fight for our rights. How do you test the waters if you don't swim? There are no losses in simply asking.
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This is a 'good news' thread about California businesses.
Info on other states is off topic. Posts about 'no guns' policies are off topic.
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For those who need chiropractic help, Dr. Tony Potters on Emerald Oak Drive (just off of Elk Grove Blvd.) has no problems with CCW holders. In fact, I just found this fact out this afternoon when I went in to get adjusted.
Normally, I discreetly remove my carry gun and hide it in my jacket before placing it on a chair. However, I normally do not remove my spare magazine because it is not noticeable or in the way when I get adjusted. This time, he noticed my spare magazine when he was adjusting my hip. To my surprise (well I shouldn't be because I've only been going to him for like the past 5 years and he knows me well), he took the fact that I was carrying in stride and even told me that he had no problems with good citizens having a LTC. In fact, given the recent events, he indicated that he feels more secured knowing that there is an armed citizen as a patient in his clinic. And if I had to rate this business into the given 3 categories, I would have to say that this office falls into Category 1. So there you have it folks. Next time you need an adjustment, go see Dr. Potter. He will take care of you and not freak out from the fact that you are armed. By the way, I would still exercise the usual discretion and courtesy by removing your gun before Dr. Potter comes into your room for your adjustment. Dr. Tony J. Potter 9632 Emerald Oak Drive Elk Grove, CA 95624 (916) 685-1234 - Gomphe Last edited by Gomphe; 12-29-2014 at 4:08 PM.. Reason: Added catagory level |
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www.friendorfoe.us
Welcome to the Friend or Foe web site. This site serves the gun owner community by listing the experiences people have while out and about carrying a firearm for self protection. Individuals across the country use the site to share experiences visiting various places of business for the benefit of the entire gun owner community. Gun owners who Open Carry are especially encouraged to share their experiences as they are obviously more inclined to get a genuine feel for whether gun owners are welcome at the establishment. Those who prefer to carry concealed can help by adding ratings for businesses that they know are friendly or unfriendly, and also by adding ratings for places that are posted with “no guns” or “no weapons” signage. If you are a gun owner, consider sharing the experiences you have while carrying with those that live nearby. Simply click on the Map menu item above, and you might find others have already added some ratings in your area. If not, use the Add Rating link to quickly add your experiences with local businesses in your area.
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54,700 = 2013 of 36 million have CCW's (:-(
55,000 CCWs in California. We are less than 2% of the State's Population.
So as we get to 1 million, I think our #s will warrant the "red carpet" or "Welcome LTC/CCW" sign.
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Personally I take the lack of a "no weapons" sign to mean the business is pro-carry.
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I'm Al from American Fastening Systems in Oxnard, Ca
We mainly sell all types of nails, staples, and tools for construction, agriculture, and industrial packaging. Ask for Al for a 20% discount on Benchmade knives or 10% off everything else with a CCW permit or an application for a CCW(approved or not) |
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Uhh... to clarify... 55,000 CCW holders out of a population of 36 million is not only less than 2%, its less than 0.2%. It's 0.15% Essentially 3 people out of every 2000 have a CCW To get to 1 million we will have to increase CCW issuance by almost 20x.. that would be awesome |
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When not posted in opposition, then presume - okay. When posted in opposition, it is after all concealed - the chance is yours to take. Don't ask don't tell. Either presume okay or be paranoid and presume not okay.
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Andrew here, owner of BoxCar CrossFit in Roseville CA. If anyone is looking for a veteran owned powerlifting / olympic lifting / CrossFit gym that is 2A friendly come check us out! (FYI my partner is the vet, not me!)
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