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Old 09-27-2021, 6:57 AM
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Well after we had a thread get locked down because I said you don't need a 4 ounce rifle to go deer hunting I decided to see if my method of hunting would work for a brand new hunter never in the field before or if we would both get medivacted to a hospital.
My criteria was the hunter had to have zero experience hunting and be a CalGuns member with a gun weighing over 12 pounds and not have a gym membership.

I made the offer and it was eagerly accepted by Moodilistic who has shot with us at upperlake before. We had met 2 or 3 times in total and I decided let's do this.

He got his license and tags at 8pm the night before the hunt and forgot them in his pants pocket requiring a deviation to keep things legit.

We where hunting public lands only but spotted 12+ pigs 4-5 coyotes 2 bears and 15+ legal bucks. I put down a small buck and a pig earlier in the week so the goal was to get Moodilistic his first buck.

All the stuff that goes wrong went wrong and some real good bucks walked away without being shot at.
It was 8:45 in the morning and I spotted a good first buckooking for does.
I glassed the buck and told Moodilistic to shoot. He got on the buck and hit him with the first shot. The buck tried getting up so he put him down for good with a neck shot.

As we where skinning the buck Mike validated the tag and a separate lady from fish and game pulled the glands for chronic wasting disease.

Met some quail hunters while skinning both of our bucks so a shout out to Dan and his dog Petzel.

The pictures are of calguns member Moodilistic and his first buck ever.
We will now focus on the B zone.
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Good for you guys taking out a new hunter...
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Good on you for bringing a new guy out!


IMO, hunt with what you like. Personally, I’m out walking around a lot and I only fire 1 shot in the season if things go well so I prefer a lite rifle. But that’s for me. To each their own. I spent thousands on buying CCW holsters that everyone else loved for the guns everyone else thought was the bees knees. My EDC holster is one I bought “like new” in the marketplace here and I love it.

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My criteria was the hunter had to have zero experience hunting and be a CalGuns member with a gun weighing over 12 pounds and not have a gym membership.
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Wow, my .500 NE double weighs 11.5 pounds. You guys went hunting with target rifles?
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There are all many different methods used for deer hunting depending on where you live and the terrain you have to deal with. How much walking did you have to do and is it a lot of up and down hills, rocky areas etc? Some guys road hunt and just step out of their truck or sit in blinds.
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Wow, my .500 NE double weighs 11.5 pounds. You guys went hunting with target rifles?
It's a Sauer 100 fieldcraft, and it's about 19 pounds I think. He has a bipod on it and good glass. I think it's a 6.5 Creedmoor or a 6.5 prc. He showed up with a truckload of rifles and pistols.
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It's a Sauer 100 fieldcraft, and it's about 19 pounds I think. He has a bipod on it and good glass. I think it's a 6.5 Creedmoor or a 6.5 prc. He showed up with a truckload of rifles and pistols.
What makes the fieldcraft 12 pounds heavier then the other Sauer 100 models?
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What makes the fieldcraft 12 pounds heavier then the other Sauer 100 models?
The other models with shorter skinnier barrels and a scope without a bipod or accessories are over 12 pounds so your question makes no sense.
This gun is all wood no polymer and has a heavy 26 inch barrel.
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The review is a fieldshoot not a fieldcraft and the lady shooter is taking hers hunting as well. Yes a lady hunter using a gun weighing over 12 pounds. Can't be done on calguns only in the real world
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Very cool. That’s a nice buck and a good first experience.


Interesting rifle choice. I agree that a 4 pound rifle isn’t required. I’ve never had a “light” deer rifle. Always had a good sling though.

I’m relieved that you didn’t hand him a Remington. Not sure it would handle the morning dew.
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how many days did you live in the field? how much gear were you packing to sustain the hunt out in the field away from the car, campground etc? how many miles did you hike or stalk each day?
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Hunt was 3 days total and we are not allowed to camp where we hunt.
Food consisted of sandwiches and junk food in the field and no scale was used.
The criteria was 12 pounds minimum on the rifle because according to what was posted earlier that makes the hunt impossible.
We both survived and we both got bucks.
No pedometers where used but the mileage was substantial. Not 15 miles each way uphill like was posted here but substantial.

The lady who took the glands for chronic wasting disease knows calguns member Spyder.
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Have to see if my model 70 varmint master is 12 pounds. It's not to bad to carry.
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Congrats on taking a new hunter and having success. I brought a big heavy rifle on my first hunt, so it can be done. I did buy a much lighter rifle after that hunt and have used it ever since.
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Nothing wrong with a light rifle but if the lady in the video above can pack a 12 pound rifle so can anybody else without a disability.
My methodology for last week of the season hunting allows for a heavier rifle.
The biggest problem I see in late season hunting is too much walking and not enough glassing for those that are unsuccessful. Slow down on the distance walked and glass more as the bucks are moving.
I don't want this thread to blow up and get pulled down again but this month is when people should be scouting in my humble opinion to see where the bucks will be but what do I know.
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Hunt was 3 days total and we are not allowed to camp where we hunt.
Food consisted of sandwiches and junk food in the field and no scale was used.
The criteria was 12 pounds minimum on the rifle because according to what was posted earlier that makes the hunt impossible.
We both survived and we both got bucks.
No pedometers where used but the mileage was substantial. Not 15 miles each way uphill like was posted here but substantial.

The lady who took the glands for chronic wasting disease knows calguns member Spyder.
in other words, you proved nothing.

the closer you are to your car, and less time you spend in the field, the less the weight of the rifle matters. This is hunting option A for apples.

The further you hike into the bush, the longer you stay out there, the less reliance you can have on a base camp, car, going home after a "couple" hours, the more critical a light rifle...heck light everything you need matters. This is hunting option O for oranges.

you are trying to compare apples to oranges and claim "proof" of something.

on the other hand, mentoring someone on their first hunt, nicely done.
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Hey Lynn I've got an old sporterized 1903 that I'm pretty sure fits the description. I bought it for hunting even though everyone on calguns said I shouldn't. I never did get to go hunting with it. I bought it while I was out in Colorado and was planning to hunt Elk with it. Anyways I'd love the chance to get a deer with it.
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When I hunted pigs on CA public land, I carried a slug rifle that weighed 10lbs exactly with scope and ammo.

I did a lot of walking with that rig slung over one shoulder, and always had a sore shoulder at the end of the day. Killed a lot of pigs with, though.
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Public land in CA with 12 pigs, 2 bears and 15 legal bucks in 3 days? Holy sh1t.
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Awesome. Glad to see new folks getting in the field, and thanks for being the gateway Lynn!

I love getting new folks out in the field, and LOVE being there when they get their first animal. It's just as exciting as getting my own big buck.
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in other words, you proved nothing.

the closer you are to your car, and less time you spend in the field, the less the weight of the rifle matters. This is hunting option A for apples.

The further you hike into the bush, the longer you stay out there, the less reliance you can have on a base camp, car, going home after a "couple" hours, the more critical a light rifle...heck light everything you need matters. This is hunting option O for oranges.

you are trying to compare apples to oranges and claim "proof" of something.

on the other hand, mentoring someone on their first hunt, nicely done.
Eh. I do long hunts over more than a dozen miles and have packed a 14 lb rifle for them before many times.

Hell, Longhunters of lore didn't even have merino or synthetic fabrics, and spent months in the field at a time.

Just because you won't do it doesn't mean it isn't possible. If someone wants to hunt with a heavier rifle for ANY reason, whether it's cost or anything else, I'm just happy to see folks out in the field and see no reason to put them down over the weight of a couple of liters of water. I'd rather be a little less comfortable and a little more tired in the field while on a hunt, over sitting at home watching TV.
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Public land in CA with 12 pigs, 2 bears and 15 legal bucks in 3 days? Holy sh1t.
No kidding. Last time I hunted (attempted to) on public land in California I saw one deer and two blatant poachers.
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One hell of a location to get those numbers!

I do feel that a heavy rifle is not a limiting factor. Mainly it's a comfort thing. A good sling with a behind the back cross shoulder carry can make it very comfortable. Or even a backpack that was made to strap rifle down the middle. Now if you're out camping overnight, I can see how it can be cumbersome.

I accepted all of that above AFTER I sold my bench rifle that was about 15lbs for a shorter barrel rifle, which I felt didn't really bother me after all.

I'm in another camp of mentality that the hunt can be made with a shorter barrel just fine, IF I keep the shot under 300 yards for expansion. Same goes for upland game hunting barrel length of 20" instead of the common 26" or 28", I let the choke do the work.
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Well done Lynn


I have never walked more than on an elk hunt in Colorado.
I'm not sure a gun weighing 2-4 pounds less would have been a big deal.
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I laugh when I see folks saying light rifles are mandatory, and then see that their pack has 3 pair of underwear, 4 pair of socks, spare pants and a handgun. 😆
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Spyder this is calguns where everyone walks uphill 15 miles a day every day for weeks on end. Lolroflmao.

Now for some real shocking news!!!!!!!!!!!

Next year I am taking a very popular Calguns gunsmith from SoCal deer hunting at the same location. No weight limit on his gun and the hunt will be on public land. No gym members allowed.Our hunting method will be the only secret.
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I hunt Wyoming where we'll walk miles up and down the mountains above 6.000 feet of elevation.

My 6.5x284 with a 27" barrel and Nightforce scope. Without the sling or any ammo weighs 13 Lbs 6 Oz. My other hunting rifle is a Ruger No. 1B with a 24" barrel and a Leupold scope is 8 Lbs.

At the end of the day, I don't notice one is any worse than the other.
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Wow, it just keeps getting better...
The mods should move this thread to the Hunting/Fishing sub forum where it might be appreciated a little more.
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The mods should move this thread to the Hunting/Fishing sub forum where it might be appreciated a little more.
Actually those are the members I wouldn't want to take. They already hunt and are set in how they do things.
I want to take people who have never hunted before or who are willing to try my way of doing things.
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Actually those are the members I wouldn't want to take. They already hunt and are set in how they do things.
I want to take people who have never hunted before or who are willing to try my way of doing things.
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Actually those are the members I wouldn't want to take. They already hunt and are set in how they do things.
I want to take people who have never hunted before or who are willing to try my way of doing things.
What is your way of doing things? I am curious.
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Actually those are the members I wouldn't want to take. They already hunt and are set in how they do things.
I want to take people who have never hunted before or who are willing to try my way of doing things.
I’m a blank canvas, if you’re looking for more pupils.

My only experience deer hunting was going on a 2 mile hike in the southern sierras with a backpack full of way too much crap and my 03 sporter. I saw a couple doe and fawns but no bucks. I was pooped by the time we were getting back to the truck. I traded backpacks with my buddy and let him carry the rifle for the last 1/4 mile or so. I definitely should have done some conditioning in the preceding months. I packed my backpack as though I was planning to get lost for a few days, which gave me warm and fuzzies but didn’t help my out of shape ***. I’m not a big fatty either, but hiking up and down hills at elevation definitely wears on you.
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What is your way of doing things? I am curious.
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We are hunting the rut or pre-rut whatever you want to call it the last week of the season.
If your hiking 15 miles like I see posted here constantly your not looking for deer your running past them or in a foot race to see how far you can walk in a day. I can join a gym or take up jogging/running if I want to spend my day covering that much land on foot.

I also tend to scout for bucks right after the season ends so I know where they will be the next year. I don't go scouting December January February March April May or June.
Last year I had rotator cuff surgery so it was my only year without getting a buck because I couldn't shoot at all during the season.
We are hunting the B Zone starting today near snow mountain and walking 15 miles will not be a part of my methodology. Glassing with good binoculars and patience has worked so far so I will stick with it.
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in other words, you proved nothing.

the closer you are to your car, and less time you spend in the field, the less the weight of the rifle matters. This is hunting option A for apples.

The further you hike into the bush, the longer you stay out there, the less reliance you can have on a base camp, car, going home after a "couple" hours, the more critical a light rifle...heck light everything you need matters. This is hunting option O for oranges.

you are trying to compare apples to oranges and claim "proof" of something.

on the other hand, mentoring someone on their first hunt, nicely done.

Actually I was told on this very forum you couldn't hunt deer with a scoped rifle weighing over 9 pounds.
I am not out to prove anything I just didn't realize I had been doing what was deemed impossible for the past 47 years so I decided to get an unbiased untarnished zero experience first time license and tag holder out in the field to see if he could do it as well
I probably just got lucky and found the other califirnia hunter who could do it?
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Public land in CA with 12 pigs, 2 bears and 15 legal bucks in 3 days? Holy sh1t.
That's a lot of copper bullets. Where did you get them?

Can you use steel bullets here?
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That's a lot of copper bullets. Where did you get them?

Can you use steel bullets here?
That's 29 bullets, they come in boxes of 50 or 100. I have a few thousand copper bullets in the cabinet.

You can't use steel bullets for rifle or pistol hunting, CA requires a softpoint or expanding bullet for taking those animals.
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CA requires a softpoint or expanding bullet for taking those animals.
Which is funny because they don't allow lead which helps bullets expand better.
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Which is funny because they don't allow lead which helps bullets expand better.
The state doesn't have to make sense. They allow you to hunt deer with a 25 ACP pistol or a .223 with Barnes 36 grain varmint grenades but I can't take one with my 458 Win mag loaded with Barnes 500 grain solids.
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I don’t think the weight of the rifle matters so long as it has a wingnut.
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