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Old 09-21-2019, 9:04 PM
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Default Source for Broomhandle barrel relining? (Now w/pics!)

I recently picked up two Mauser C96 in a package deal. One of them is in excellent condition, almost looks unfired. Was covered in cosmoline inside and the bore looks brand new.

The other is a bolo and it looks like someone shot some corrosive ammo then let it sit for 50 years with no cleaning, then used it as a boat anchor. I am trying to clean it up and the bore is just gone, no rifling at all and really not even any evidence there ever was any.

If I get this thing back together and decide it seems in decent functional and reasonable cosmetic condition, I may have the barrel relined. Besides Redmans (who seems to be the best of the best and at $250 I’d hope so), are there any other sources I should look at and anyone have idea on pricing?

Lastly, should I even bother? I will try and get some pics up after I get the parts cleaned and oiled.

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Old 09-21-2019, 9:42 PM
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They offer full restoration
https://lugerman.com/product/c96-barrel-options/
https://lugerman.com/product/broomha...6-restoration/
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^^ interesting, I may slide the calipers over the barrel and see if it is fat enough for 9mm conversion.

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Might want to do a search on Lugerman before sending him your Broomhandle. Lots about him on the Luger forum.
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Old 09-22-2019, 11:37 AM
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^^^ thanks, will do. Supposedly these guys have an excellent reputation for the job

http://redmansrifling.com/mauser-restoration/
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Redman is an arrogant PITA, if he answers your emails at all. Quite a few have the red asss with Lugerman. I have had a great experience with him. Your mileage may vary. Of the two, I would use Eugene (Lugerman)
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^^^ thank you Kendog. Seems this is not going to be as easy as I thought...
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^^^ thank you Kendog. Seems this is not going to be as easy as I thought...
It never is.
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^^^ thank you Kendog. Seems this is not going to be as easy as I thought...



Time and money will make things easier! I used to use the Broom Closet guy, but he passed away. Workmanship was not the greatest, but usually relines are done on doggy guns anyhow. Lugermans products and work were 1st rate.
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Any pictures of the "unfired" Broomhandle? Always nice to see these things in excellent condition.
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Any pictures of the "unfired" Broomhandle? Always nice to see these things in excellent condition.
I doubt it is unfired, but the bore is mint and not relined, everything fits tight and the controls are stiff. It seems to be a wartime commercial model, serial 408,5xx. No import marks.

When I got it, the rear sight leaf spring was broken but I got another one from Numrich and replaced it. I also put in new recoil and hammer springs from Wolff.

All the numbers match (mag base plate, bolt, sear lever, subframe, bolt locking block, rear sight, hammer, bolt stop, lower frame, upper barrel assembly), and the rear sight is also numbered which I don't think is all that common.

Here ya go, after cleaning it up and getting it back together.







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Old 09-25-2019, 8:33 AM
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A very fine wartime commercial Broomhandle. Enjoy it with care, they are fine pieces of machinery.
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Ask over at the Luger forum.
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That's pretty cool.
Didmt someone make reproduction broomhandles with removable magazine?
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Here is the Bolo with the sewer pipe for a bore. I stripped it, cleaned it and soaked it in oil for days. It seems like it would run. I have some ammo coming and I will try and run it before deciding what to do.

But what do you think Calguns - sink another $275 into it and try to save it, or is it a wall hanger? I paid $400 for it. It is all matching numbers, including the rear sight on this one too.





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If you can rebore it to 9mm caliber you can fire the ever-abundant 9x19mm ammunition out of the gun (assuming the springs in the gun are in-spec and there is no damage to the bolt stop or the barrel extension behind the bolt stop) for a nice little blaster, but I'm not sure who does 9mm rebores for Broomhandles anymore.
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I'd definitely wait to see the results of firing it. Some sewer pipes actually shoot better than pristine bores. I think you got it for a good price even if it needs relining.
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If you rebore it to 9mm, you'll probably end up having to chop off the old barrel and then the finish will be destroyed. If you only spend 275, it would be for the reline only. If you rebarrel to 9mm and have a total restoration with Lugerman, you'll most certainly be at $1,000+ in.
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FWIW, Skyhawk - I have a shooter grade Red 9 - 5.5" 9mm model, with a SN # in the Red 9 contract range, (refinished and slightly sanitized - the markings on the top and the SN # on the barrel are gone), but all the SN #'s match minus the locking frame piece that the hammer sits into, (though I do have the original matching one that is broken) and the grips that are old repros and un-numbered. I paid $600 for it, and mechanically it's good, but the bore is gone, counterbored probably 1.5-2" and pitted at the end. Lugerman and I decided it'd be best to chop the barrel and replace it entirely, so I sent it off to Lugerman on 8-2, and it made it there 8/6. I received an email on 8/24 that he did indeed receive it and would replace the barrel and function test in the next three weeks (from then). Fast forward to 10/4 I have yet to hear anything further. It seems that he's the best/last hope for 9mm bore repair, but I hope that the wait won't be too much longer. From what I hear he sometimes takes in too much work so the wait times can be a long time, depending on the work. I know of a guy who's having a full restoration done, and he said that the C96 has been in Lugerman's shop for two years now. I certainly hope that this won't be the case for my much more "Simple" barrel replacement job.
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