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Old 09-14-2019, 5:45 PM
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Default Model 1917 rifle what the heck ?

Turners chino hills has a 1917 on consignment for 1,000 bucks
I like them and want one but no way would i pay 1,000 for one. I would get a nice M1 for that money.
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Old 09-14-2019, 5:47 PM
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Nice original Winchester will sell for more than $1,000.


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Old 09-14-2019, 8:13 PM
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You might find a cheaper one on Gunbroker. Also just check out some local stores and pawn shops.

In WWI they were actually used more than the M1903 Springfield.
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$1000 seems to be on the higher end, but it's not unheard of from my experience. A lot of these were sporterized. Mine was about $900 after tax and DROS. Granted, it was in excellent condition with it's original nickel steel bolt. The only "ding" against it was a rearsenal stock.... which was balanced out by Elmer Keith's cartouche. Actually, another ding against it was the cracked bolt lug which is common for original nickel steel bolts.
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Old 09-15-2019, 12:12 AM
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Comparably speaking, that isn't too far off the mark if it is in good original condition. I have one that I bought from another Calguns member not too long ago and it was around $800 or so. A pretty average example but I think it was fairly priced.
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I think i am living in the past price wise. I grew up with one in our household a eddystone.It was sold as surplus before their was a CMP.He passed way in 1984 and i later i sold it. I was not interested in C&Rs in 1993.
I still think it is a unattractive rifle. The 1903a3 is the top of the heap as far a bolt action 30 06 beauty goes.
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Old 09-15-2019, 5:34 AM
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Nothing surprises me anymore after seeing Mosins going for over 400 and SKS $1000.
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I remember when they were the red-headed stepchild of US military long arms. I have been keeping up with the trend of current prices and even I can't believe how much they have appreciated in price.

About six years ago I paid $700 for a super nice Winchester M1917 that had been rearsenaled at Ogden and had Elmer's cartouche on the stock. I had wanted another M1917 to replace the near perfect original Remington that I sold for a song back when I went through the 'Great Divorce Sale' back in 1998. At the time I felt I was overpaying by $200 or so (and I probably was) but I had always wanted a Winchester M1917 and it came with a Winchester bayonet and Kerr sling, so I wasn't all that unhappy with the purchase.

Today, if I found a nice original condition M1917 for a grand or less, I would be very tempted to just belly up to the bar and buy it. Being frugal with your money is nice and all that, but life is shorter than you think and in the end it's only a few dollars more or less in the great scheme of things.

Edited to add: I recently found a very nice original condition Pattern 1913 Remington at a gun show and I unhesitatingly bought it for $500. Seems like a lot, but I personally haven't even seen one in any condition for sale in years and this one was just so nice I had to take it home with me.

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Going rate for a truly straight gun with original blue in 95% or better condition with no "issues" or "dings" will bring a bit more than $1500.
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There is one going for a more reasonable price at Checkpoint Charlies. http://www.checkpointcharlies.com/ec...-military.html
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In similar condition, Winchester and Remington branded 1917's always brought more than the Eddystones.

Any opinions on which is more desirable between the Winchesters and the Remingtons?
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I have a Remington that I bought recently in G-VG condition for a good price. There’s red paint on the stock along with “30-06” marked. I looked into it and it turns out that it was given to the Brits during WWII as part of the lend lease program. They used it to equip their home guards and the paint was to help distinguish from their P14 rifles firing 303 Brit. Interesting rifle with an interesting history!

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...8#post23375498
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In similar condition, Winchester and Remington branded 1917's always brought more than the Eddystones.

Any opinions on which is more desirable between the Winchesters and the Remingtons?
AFAIK...

Winchester had the lowest production numbers, so they are not as common as the Remington or Eddystone.

However, the early production Winchester M1917 had parts compatibility issues with the Remington & Eddystone M1917. This was due to Winchester making the parts out-of-spec and it did not get fixed until about half-way through their production run of 465,000 rifles.
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AFAIK...

Winchester had the lowest production numbers, so they are not as common as the Remington or Eddystone.

However, the early production Winchester M1917 had parts compatibility issues with the Remington & Eddystone M1917. This was due to Winchester making the parts out-of-spec and it did not get fixed until about half-way through their production run of 465,000 rifles.
I knew about Winchester's interchangeability issues with early rifles, but thought they fixed the issues much earlier in the production run.
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I know that Winchester P14s were used as sniper rifles by the Brits because they were the most accurate of the three makers. I don't know if that carried over to the M1917s as well.
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I’d rather skip nostalgia and buy a 5r
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I was able to buy a sporters 1917 2 year ago. It was beat but had bolt and main stock, and a excellent barrel.
Paid 40+tax+dros.
Got everything else on ebay, numrich and a cmp forum.
Cost about $150 in parts.
It shoots excellent.

I did the same with a 1903, but cost a lot more, but not as much as the prices i see now. Cost about $400 when done.

Hit every shop you can, most people walk away from project guns and most shops want to move junkers.

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JG Sales as two Eddystone 1917s listed currently, in the $900 range.

https://www.jgsales.com/eddystone-19...-p-103941.html
https://www.jgsales.com/eddystone-19...-p-102593.html
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I just saw a M1917 at Turner's Outdoorsman in Chino on Friday......

In the consignment rack for $1000.

Looks like that's the going price these days.
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Well... weed is legal now in CA, so those Turners employees may just be drinking too much of that bong water.
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In similar condition, Winchester and Remington branded 1917's always brought more than the Eddystones.

Any opinions on which is more desirable between the Winchesters and the Remingtons?


Winchesters are definitely the most desirable and bring the most money. There were

465,980 Winchesters made
545,541 Remington
1,181,908 Eddystone

Eddystone was a subsidiary of Remington


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I gave $700 for this Remington a few weeks back. Serial 451,4xx. It looks to be in excellent original condition but I have not torn it down or documented any markings or numbers yet. If anyone can give me tips on what to look for I'd appreciate it.



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