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Old 09-12-2019, 12:18 PM
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Default Traveling through CA with AR Pistol

I might be traveling through CA from WA and was hoping to bring an AR pistol. Can someone help point me in the correct direction to what I do to bring it in for a weekend?

I know 10 rd mags only, but what about all this featureless stuff? Is the only thing that I need to do to my AR pistol is fix the magazine using the "bullet button 2.0" or whatever it's called nowadays?


I left CA around 2017 and all the laws that occurred since then have me confused like no other.

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Old 09-12-2019, 12:20 PM
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No such thing as featureless for an AR pistol, unfortunately.

I would just leave it in WA and not bring it here.

Sorry OP.
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Old 09-12-2019, 12:28 PM
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Fixed mag only. No such thing as featureless for ar pistol.
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Old 09-12-2019, 12:30 PM
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No such thing as featureless for an AR pistol, unfortunately.

I would just leave it in WA and not bring it here.

Sorry OP.
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Fixed mag only. No such thing as featureless for ar pistol.
Cool thanks. So I should be OK with just fixing the mag and bringing it in?
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Old 09-12-2019, 12:42 PM
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Cool thanks. So I should be OK with just fixing the mag and bringing it in?
Yes but it’s a hassle and not worth it.
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Old 09-12-2019, 1:09 PM
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Cool thanks. So I should be OK with just fixing the mag and bringing it in?
Nope, That doesn't necessarily make your AR pistol legal.

The problem here is that you have to be careful that your AR pistol not be an "Assault Weapon" under California law.

California has three different types of Assault Weapons. If your pistol is a "Evil by Name" (Penal Code section 30510(a)-30510(c)) Assault Weapon, then it's illegal to bring into the state and there isn't any way to make it legal.

If your pistol is a "Evil because the judge said so" (Penal Code section 30510(d)) Assault Weapon, then it's illegal to bring into the state and there isn't any way to make it legal. Also be aware that there has been subsequent case law restricting the application of PC 30510(d).

If your pistol is a "Evil by Design" (Penal Code section 30515) Assault Weapon, then its possible to remove the design elements that would otherwise make it an assault weapon. In the case of rifles, this often translates to removing all AW features from the weapon, or by giving it a fixed magazine of ten rounds or less. You can't make a handgun featureless because the grip is required for a handgun and is one of the features that would have to be removed.

But you gotta remember that a fixed magazine of more than ten rounds also creates an illegal Assault Weapon.
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The pistol grip on an ar pistol does not have to be removed if it has a fixed mag.
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Old 09-12-2019, 1:46 PM
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The pistol grip on an ar pistol does not have to be removed if it has a fixed mag.
Edgerly,

Please be careful dispensing such advice.

If the fixed magazine holds ten rounds or less, it's cool.

If the fixed magazine holds more than ten rounds, then the pistol is an "Assault Weapon" and a felony to possess without registration or a permit.

Please refer to Penal Code section 30515(a)(5).
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Old 09-12-2019, 1:49 PM
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OK missed where you said over 10 rounds.
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Old 09-12-2019, 1:57 PM
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Probably not worth the hastle or consequences, id bring a glock with some 10rnd mags and call it a day...
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Just curious why you want to travel with an AR Pistol?

Just general defense & state of the world?

If so, glad to hear I'm not alone in wanting a long gun with me at all times....

I mean, I *don't* travel with an AR at all times, but wish I could.....
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Any laws about carrying a pistol upper and a lower in separate cases?
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Carry in same case,not an assault weapon when disassembled
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Carry in same case,not an assault weapon when disassembled
Constructive possession?
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I would leave it at home. Bring a Glock or other more conventional handgun. Must be in “secure” locked contained during transport. Magazine cannot be in the handgun but the magazine can be loaded and can be in the same container as the handgun.
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I would leave it at home. Bring a Glock or other more conventional handgun. Must be in “secure” locked contained during transport. Magazine cannot be in the handgun but the magazine can be loaded and can be in the same container as the handgun.


This. Bringing any AR type firearm into CA unnecessarily should be avoided.


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Bring it and ammo and enjoy.
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Cool thanks. So I should be OK with just fixing the mag and bringing it in?
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Yes but it’s a hassle and not worth it.
https://www.ebay.com/c/7010859471

takes about 10 minutes to install. That plus 10 round mags. If you really want to get fancy and do faster reloads, there are other rear take-down pin options that take more time to install, but this setup works pretty damn good.
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