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Old 09-22-2019, 9:22 AM
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what makes a lock bought 31 days before pick-up no longer good? Do locks because faulty because it's 31 days old? such a gimmick and somebody making these laws owns a major lock company to make this law up....so stupid
Not that I agree with the reasoning, but that's to prevent re-using the same lock for different gun purchases; the intent is 1 gun, 1 lock.

Look at the 'legislative findings' at PC 23625 to see what they would admit to being their purpose.
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:06 AM
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Any ffls have the answer on this? No safe handling for long guns if hunting license used.
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19. What are the exemptions to the safe handling demonstration requirement?

The exemptions to the safe handling demonstration are the same as the exemptions from the FSC requirement. If a firearm purchaser/recipient has a valid exemption from the FSC requirement, he or she is also exempt from the safe handling demonstration requirement. A copy of the proof of exemption documentation must be retained with the original DROS, but a Safe Handling Demonstration Affidavit would not be required.
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2. What are the exemptions from the Firearm Safety Certificate requirement?

There are several FSC requirement exemptions. In addition to the previous Handgun Safety Certificate (HSC) exemptions, a person issued a valid hunting license is exempt from the FSC requirement for long guns only. (Pen. Code, § 31700, subd. (c).)
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6. What are the Firearm Safety Certificate requirement exemption codes?

X01 = Special Weapons Permit Holder
X02 = Operation of Law Representative
X03 = Handgun being returned to the owner
X13 = FFL collector with COE (curio and relic handguns only)
X21 = Military - Active Duty
X22 = Military - Reserve
X25 = Military - Honorably Retired
X31 = Peace Officer - California - Active
X32 = Peace Officer - Federal - Active
X33 = Peace Officer - California - Honorably Retired
X34 = Peace Officer - California - Reserve
X35 = Peace Officer - Federal - Honorably Retired
X41 = Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW) Permit Holder
X81 = P.O.S.T. 832 PC (Firearms) Training
X91 = Particular and Limited Authority Peace Officers
X95 = Law Enforcement Service Gun to Family Member
X98 = Valid Hunting License (long guns only)
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Old 09-22-2019, 12:00 PM
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Bring your own lock to the transfer. Have the seller put it on the gun. Now it's part of the sale. Problem solved.
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Old 09-22-2019, 12:33 PM
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^^ If your lucky that will work. Supposed to have a receipt for an approved lock. I was lucky they just looked at lock and said fine. There was nowhere to put it on the o/u I purchased in any case.

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Buy a lock on amazon, print the invoice, cancel the order
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Old 09-23-2019, 7:00 PM
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Buy a lock on amazon, print the invoice, cancel the order
That's clever!
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Buy a lock on amazon, print the invoice, cancel the order
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That's clever!
But you do have to present the lock and the receipt when picking up your gun, so be sure the lock you bring matches the receipt you print.
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CA law requires a safety device for all guns.

Fedlaw requires a safety device for handguns.

Used/new makes no difference.

CA will accept the safe affidavit for any gun.

A safe is a qualifying safety device for Feds - but BATFE has no way to document that, and they will not accept the CA affidavit.
How does a dealer document or prove they are complying with the federal requirements
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Old 09-24-2019, 6:29 PM
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How does a dealer document or prove they are complying with the federal requirements
AFAIK there is no defined documentation; perhaps an FFL might chime in ...
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