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Old 08-28-2019, 12:06 PM
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I bought a used Benelli M2, with plastic stocks. The forend has some type of unknown glue all over it. I have been trying to remove it, but have been unsuccessful. It is so thick, I can scrape it with my thumbnail. I have tried dishwasher soap, Hoppes, WD-40 and brake cleaner, and some of glue has come off, but there is still a lot to remove. Any suggestions on what to use that will totally remove he glue residue?
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:10 PM
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Start with rubbing alcohol.

Acetone is stronger than what you have used if you can minimize contact, but it can dissolve some plastics. Rub with a cotton swab first to see how easy it might be.

Is the adhesive rubbery or more rigid?

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Old 08-28-2019, 12:21 PM
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If Goo Gone doesn't work, try Goof Off (I use both to remove paint off firearm parts)
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:29 PM
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Can you try a heat gun?
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:29 PM
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Isopropyl alcohol may do the trick. Rubbing alcohol is 70% isopropyl alcohol. Should do the trick if it's going to work at all. Avoid soaking the stock in whatever solvent you use. For instance, isopropyl alcohol, while OK on most plastics, can cause crazing and cracking if left soaking in it. Acetone, of course, will dissolve many plastics so I'd be very, very cautious with it's use.

Are you sure it's a glue or adhesive. Sometimes poor quality plastics can degrade and the outer surface becomes tacky and goopy.

Goo B Gone might be a good choice. Also, try orange oil.

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+1 for Goo Gone.
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Old 08-28-2019, 1:15 PM
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Call benelli

Send it back

When you spend over 1k, why mess with it and void the warranty by making the plastic soft with something that might melt the plastic in 2-3 weeks.
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Old 08-28-2019, 1:53 PM
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I bought the shotgun used, so it is not Benelli’s problem, and further the rear stock does not have this adhesive on it.

The adhesive is thin and tacky. Once I started removing it, it got messy and more sticky
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its difficult to get some solvents in california my order of solvent use is

water
hot water
alcohol(91% walmart stuff)
wd-40
ronsonol(zippo juice)
contractors solvent
cutter or off (bug spray)
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WD 40 or methanol sometimes works. The magicsolvent we use is gasoline then use dawn dishwashing liquid and hot water to remove residue. If anyone has a better solution let us know.

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sometimes gorilla tape or some aggressive tape will pull some of the adhesive off.
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Old 08-28-2019, 2:26 PM
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^^ Um adhesive on adhesive. Let me think about that. I do not think that is a viable solution. I have a gallon of benzene cleans everything.
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Alcohol and orange oil are my recommendation. Acetone could damage the plastic.
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^^ Um adhesive on adhesive. Let me think about that. I do not think that is a viable solution. I have a gallon of benzene cleans everything.
it has worked for me in the past, taking off most of the glue and leaving only a small amount of residue to finish removing.

this of course assumes the bonding of adhesive to the tape backing is stronger than the glue sticking to the stock (or itself).
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I've had that happen to two scopes. With age (~10 years) the paint became extremely sticky. Since I knew there was aluminum under the paint I used acetone but it still took a couple of applications and elbow grease to get it all. Since you've got a fully plastic stock you may need to try a couple solvents in small areas to test.
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I've had that happen to two scopes. With age (~10 years) the paint became extremely sticky. Since I knew there was aluminum under the paint I used acetone but it still took a couple of applications and elbow grease to get it all. Since you've got a fully plastic stock you may need to try a couple solvents in small areas to test.
yea ive had this happen to me with a rubberized flashlight, diskman, bluetooth mouse, tv remote control

9!% alcohol and paper towels cleaned it all off

i'm glad to know it happens to others i was thinking i was cursed or something

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Go easy use those 3m spongy things to rub with.
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Might have been rosin based stickum. Comes in a spray can. IT is for sticking cows' tails out of the way when milking them....no kidding. Some guys use it to get a better grip. The alcohol cutting it suggests rosin.
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If your M2 isn't 922(R) compliant buy a FFT forend and another USA part to make it so.
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Mineral spirits bought at any home improvement store
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And again, are you sure it's some sort of adhesive and not the plastic degrading? If it's all over every inch of the forend, then I'd lean towards plastic degrading for some reason. If the goo is not over the every bit of the surface, then maybe adhesive.

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could be old residue from duck tape? it's very hard to remove if it's been there a long time
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Most rifle stocks are glass reinforced nylon. Acetone might discolor the stock a bit but it will not harm it wiping on and off.

My order of solvents is get the nasty stuff first. Acetone, lacquer thinner, go big or go home. I don’t have time to tickle it. I want the job done now.
Then I go to paint thinner, wd40 crap like that.
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And again, are you sure it's some sort of adhesive and not the plastic degrading? If it's all over every inch of the forend, then I'd lean towards plastic degrading for some reason. If the goo is not over the every bit of the surface, then maybe adhesive.

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The adhesive is only on the outer surface. The inner surface is smooth and not tacky.

I just got home, I have some rubbing alcohol and gasoline. Tomorrow morning, I'll try the rubbing alcohol, and if that does not work, I'll try gas on a small section. If that does not work, I'll go buy some Goo Gone.
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Have you tried some real sticky duct tape and used it like a tack cloth? On some surfaces, my go-to for removing adhesive is another adhesive.

Worth a shot, cheap and does no harm. Press and rub the tape down well on the surface, then rip it back up. Repeat as necessary and see if anything comes up.
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Do a web search for adhesive removal. You'll get a bunch of suggestions for different adhesives. Problem is that different adhesive formulations require different solvents/removal procedures. What will work depends on the adhesive you have a problem with.

And, there's the possibility Eugene mentioned, of the plasticizers migrating out of the stock material itself. It's a common problem on boats where plastics are in the sun a lot. If that's the case, it's going to recur. You can minimize the stickiness by dusting with talc (or cornstarch, if you're talc-free/deficient), but it will happen again, if that is the cause.
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This morning I went to get my rubbing alcohol, only to find that my teenage daughter used it all. I thought about using duct tape to see if it would work, and I could not find my rolls of tape, which is my fault for not organizing my garage. I used gasoline and it took the tacky ness off the stock, but I could see a hardened residue, so I used my fingernail to scratch off the residue. The residue flaked off like it was a coat of paint. I continued to scrub the stock with gasoline and a Scotch-Brite pad until it was all off. I would have taken photos, but I don't think the adhesive would have shown in a photo.
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3M specialty adhesive remover # 38984
Not cheap, but the best I have encountered.
You will need to go to an auto paint store,
I was a tool dealer and a lot of trade-in tool
boxes that had lots of stickers, this was the
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The adhesive is only on the outer surface. The inner surface is smooth and not tacky.
Inner surface is less exposed to the environment.
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Just a suggestion here.
I've used Easy Off oven cleaner to remove some adhesive material and painted lettering from fiberglass/plastic parts.

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+1 on 3M adhesive remover. Expensive but has worked on adhesives nothing else would touch. Also does not seem to attack plastics.
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