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Concealed Carry Discussion General discussion regarding CCW/LTC in California |
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are you ccw guys using standard capacity mags>
In the current situation are you ccw guys that carry firearms capable of accepting more than 10rd mags are you now using those mags? Is it legal to carry now with mags greater than 10rd capacity or are you guys staying with 10rd or less even if your carry firearm is capable of holding more?
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It's ALWAYS been legal to carry legally owned +10 round mags. NOTHING has changed.
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Regular capacity magazines are presently legal to own.
As such, if you carry them and are involved in a shooting today, no one will be able to say the magazies were illegal to carry. The status quo is very likely to change, and nobody knows what that is going to look like.
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Remember, it is not illegal to have them, just illegal to buy them until now. So yes, you can use them.
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CCW and High Capacity Mags
Can CCW permit holders carry above 10 round mags (15 round mags, in this case)? Since the new court ruling, I wanted to get an answer from others with experience. Thanks!
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No legal issue; entirely up to your issuing agency.
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At this time OC Sheriff doesnt have any restrictions on mag capacity so you can carry it if you legally own it. But Im sure some idiot will harass them till they put something in writing. Who knows what theyll say if they have to put it in writing.
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Why? Is there a modification I can do to make it work in a Shield?
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DONT ASK, thats a child’s mistake. I follow the terms of my issuing authority. It is silent on magazine capacity. I legally owned scms before this order. You want to know a sure way to change that? Fifty guys asking if something legal is “ok”. Jesus, the amount if nervous nelly screw ups, like the fifty thousand “are you SURE?” Inquiries about pistol braces, remember that? Its legal. There is no mention of it in my terms. There is no legal argument that i should not be able to carry them. LEAVE IT AT THAT.
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Best bet is to check with your issuing agency. Each agencies might feel different about it. I know I had some trigger work done on one of my glock's before qualifying with it and asked the instructor if it would be a problem.
Instructor told me I could qualify with it but if the firearm was ever used to save your life. Prosecutors could bring up the modified trigger against you. Needless to say my CCW issued firearms internals were all put back to factory parts. As far as the 10+1 magazines, I have not asked yet how my agency feels about it. But to be on the safe side if I did had such magazine I would check with them first before using it. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk |
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Has any ccw shooting ever had a mod be a big issue such it was deemed a bad shoot? I keep hearing this said and I heed it but is there any court examples?
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If they want to propagate new rules, i am certain all will abide by them. DO NOT MAKE THIS AN ISSUE.
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Now its an issue. My IA knows about the ruling, they know how to get a hold of me. It is legal, LEGAL to own and use these magazines. Why the hell would anyone raise the issue? Why would there be any reason to think that the magazines a pistol was designed to use and which are legal to own would not be permitted? I have had scms for over 20 years. Nobody in my training or multiple issuances of CCW has ever said not to use them. For the love of CHRIST, do not make this an issue.
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That is what i am responding to. Its bad advice, for everyone.
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I also was interviewed a yer ago by my local Sheriff in person and we discussed lots of scenarios such as posted signs and hi cap mags and he told me it might be OK with him but other agencies may see it differently. This is why I said proceed with caution even though legally I think its unlikely to be an issue. |
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The judge then stayed his own order, but carved out magazines bought last week. None of this is open to debate, even in california. Ive had a ccw for five years. In that time i have never had any leo even aware that i ccw, let alone annoyed enough to ask what magazines i am carrying. I consider it a certainty that if i ever have to shoot someone, i will have the magazines checked. But that means i got into a gunfight. The most likely way this comes out is i survived a shootout. So i am carrying legally owned magazines. I want every advantage. I could give a crap if an agency that didnt issue my ccw “has a problem” with a legally owned 15 round magazine.
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I am with Citadelgrad87, if it is not a requirement on you permit it is not a problem. Do not call you IA... if they decide to change policy they will let you know or you will find out when you go to renew.
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It's like asking your mom if you can smoke pot, nothing good can come of it. Oh and nothing real good comes from smoking weed. As a psych nurse I had to add that quip. If one feels trepidatious about SCM then use the 10 rounders but don't get up in bureaucrats faces over it.
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Not going to call my IA about SCM but does anyone know San Diego County Sheriff Gore policy on this?
I couldn’t find the conditions paper that came at the time of issue. I do not want to lose my permit, jumped through too many hoops to get it. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I was carrying 10 round G20 mags, now I carry 15 round G20 mags. Win/Win.
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I didn't ask my IA last year, why would I ask him now?
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Don’t ask your IA. If you don’t feel comfortable carrying SCM then don’t do it. You asking the IA might ruin it for everyone else.
I don’t see why you wouldn’t use your SCM. It’s legal for you to possess and use.
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The mentality of asking if you can exercise your rights is killing me. Do people call and ask local LEO if they can drive the speed limit? Do they call and ask for permission to read the paper? Do people ask if they can sit in the front of the bus?
A decision was made, it's legal. Why empower a bureaucracy the power to say no?! If it NOT specifically stated as illegal, then it IS legal. End of Story. |
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The cur only understands the rod and the boot. They dont know what to do with any slack in the leash.
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I think you just described 75% of US Citizens. Maybe more.
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