Sparrow Dynamics Compliant Rifle Grip - Official Discussion

[Pranqster]

Waiting for somebody (with more $$$ than me) to compare this to the resurgent arms and Liberal grips that have a more perpendicular frontstrap. Pretty please....

Liberal:


Resurgent:


Sparrow:

[chrish4ku]

Order placed - I am going to use some tennis racket grip wrap over my castle nut to ensure no scrapy the knuckle...

Thanks!

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Originally Posted by Pranqster

Waiting for somebody (with more $$$ than me) to compare this to the resurgent arms and Liberal grips that have a more perpendicular frontstrap. Pretty please....
.......

Hi Pranqster, there have already been a couple of great reviews, and a few comparison comments within full reviews and quick posts... if you do a search for Sparrow Dynamics you can find them.

BUT, keep in mind everyone’s hands are very different, and what grip (grip angle, size, shape, etc.) might be perfect for someone else might not be good for you. These are all good choices because they look good, they’re affordable, and help you not register. I encourage you to do that search and read over what is out there so far (it should be a little helpful). Hopefully you can find what you are looking for.

We are running a sale right now and you can still get ours in time for Christmas. Maybe that will help a little.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Originally Posted by chrish4ku

Order placed - I am going to use some tennis racket grip wrap over my castle nut to ensure no scrapy the knuckle...

Thanks!

That could be a really good solution. I’m looking into something else similar to that also. But, you may only need this if you have what are lovingly referred to as “sausage fingers”.
I have average sized hands and find that I don’t have any rubbing issue.

Thanks for the order! Please let us know how you like it.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Just a friendly reminder. Order by Tuesday to receive it before Christmas.

[jingerale]

ordered 1. don't really need it, but perhaps this will change my mind and replace the thordsens.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Originally Posted by jingerale

ordered 1. don't really need it, but perhaps this will change my mind and replace the thordsens.

The Thordsen is a great product, but I think you'll find that our grip fills your hand a bit nicer. I hope you like it, and thanks for the order! And thanks for giving us a try even though you didn't need to.

[C.W.M.V.]

Originally Posted by jingerale

ordered 1. don't really need it, but perhaps this will change my mind and replace the thordsens.

I prefer this to the original thordsden.
I found the grip of the thordsden very narrow, too thin to grasp really well. I can’t speak for the latest gen.

The S.D. Grip fits my hand like it was custom made.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Originally Posted by 1911RONIN

I haven’t tested it yet, but I like it better than all of the other options at this point.

That looks awesome! Thanks for posting that photo. Have you had any chance to try it out? Does the QD endplate get in your way? We are thinking of making a rounded edge endplate. I haven't been to the range lately, so I need to live vicariously through others. LOL!

[chrish4ku]

I like it - a lot

Just got mine the other day. I can still get to the regular safety and I am using the Magpul MOE stock. I just drilled and put a screw into the under area so that now the stock is no way adjustable unless I use tools to remove during cleaning/disassembly.

I will have to remove the single point sling plate and go back to the standard plate. It hits my thumb knuckle.

[trhallmark]

Just installed Sparrow Dynamic grips on several of my rifles. They are perfect in fit and finish. The colors match my lowers perfectly, including the FDE. These grips are certainly a top choice in maintaining compliance in CA.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Originally Posted by trhallmark

Just installed Sparrow Dynamic grips on several of my rifles. They are perfect in fit and finish. The colors match my lowers perfectly, including the FDE. These grips are certainly a top choice in maintaining compliance in CA.

Glad to hear it! Thank you.

[Wicked K5]

Any New Years coupon codes going on? With the hustle and bustle of the holidays, I missed out on the pre Christmas sale

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Originally Posted by Wicked K5

Any New Years coupon codes going on? With the hustle and bustle of the holidays, I missed out on the pre Christmas sale

This is the post about the New Years deal.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...arrow+Dynamics

No coupon codes. Now is the best time to buy if you are looking for the lowest price. Free shipping when you spend $85 or more. 3 grips will get you there, or one grip and a safety.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

The inside scoop...
Price adjustment is planned for Monday. Have a great weekend! Get out and shoot.

Also, if anyone out there has a grip and likes it, please post a photo here or in the featureless rifles thread. We also appreciate all the kind comments we've been getting via email and chats. Thanks!!!

[Mute]

Have you guys considered developing a grip for the FN SCAR rifles? I think it's doable.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Originally Posted by Mute

Have you guys considered developing a grip for the FN SCAR rifles? I think it's doable.

Yes we have, and I’ve had a few people ask me, but there wouldn’t be enough room between the backstrap of the grip and the SCAR stock for your thumb. So you would be stuck using the cradle hold (with your thumb on the same side as your trigger finger). I know it would be way better than a grip wrap, but I am not convinced we would sell enough to make a return on our investment much less break-even.

Maybe I would change my mind later if I buy a SCAR.

*Just for clarity, the SCAR is not compatible with AR-15 grips as is.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

This is to say thank you to our Calguns.net community.

* CURRENT COUPON CODE
https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1672207

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Our SSA-15 Safety Switch is currently out of stock, but we are machining more! We will have them back on our website by Monday the 15th. Thanks for your patience and all your positive feedback AND testimonials. We appreciate it very much.

[Mute]

Originally Posted by Sparrow Dynamics

Yes we have, and I’ve had a few people ask me, but there wouldn’t be enough room between the backstrap of the grip and the SCAR stock for your thumb. So you would be stuck using the cradle hold (with your thumb on the same side as your trigger finger). I know it would be way better than a grip wrap, but I am not convinced we would sell enough to make a return on our investment much less break-even.

Maybe I would change my mind later if I buy a SCAR.

There is room if you convert the stock with an adapter so it that it can use a buffer tube. This will create the needed room. I'd much rather have a grip like this for going featureless on a SCAR than some of the other options. Of course having enough interest to make a profit...that's another matter.

[Pranqster]

I finally pulled the trigger on two featurless grips, the sparrow dynamics and strike industries grips. Both are great options in their own right; the spikes has a more traditional grip angle, with a thumb rest and finger indent that offers a good grip, while the sparrow grip allows for the thumb to wrap around the grip, but has a more slanted grip angle. I do like that they both have a "factory look" that goes well with magpul gear, and the reason I didn't go with the more rounded Featureless arms grip. Of the two I bought, I prefer the sparrow a bit more because with the spikes, my trigger finger is forced a bit too far into the trigger guard. The sparrow does require that you use a stock that allows for your thump to fit above the grip like a pinned MOE or CTR stock. I paid $43 for the spikes and $50 for the Sparrow. I wish they were closer to $35-$40 so I could outfit all my rifles.

[Justintoxicated]

any plans for a 308 version?

[imarangemaster]

I really would not have bothered to register my Middy build, if I had the Sparrow grip before I started the process.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Originally Posted by Pranqster

I finally pulled the trigger on two featurless grips, the sparrow dynamics and strike industries grips. Both are great options in their own right; the spikes has a more traditional grip angle, with a thumb rest and finger indent that offers a good grip, while the sparrow grip allows for the thumb to wrap around the grip, but has a more slanted grip angle. I do like that they both have a "factory look" that goes well with magpul gear, and the reason I didn't go with the more rounded Featureless arms grip. Of the two I bought, I prefer the sparrow a bit more because with the spikes, my trigger finger is forced a bit too far into the trigger guard. The sparrow does require that you use a stock that allows for your thump to fit above the grip like a pinned MOE or CTR stock. I paid $43 for the spikes and $50 for the Sparrow. I wish they were closer to $35-$40 so I could outfit all my rifles.

Thanks for the good review! The grips do go on sale occasionally, so keep an eye out for that so you can outfit your other rifles. If you are on the mailing list, we will notify you.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

any plans for a 308 version?

Sorry, not at this time. Molds are incredibly expensive. ALSO, because the part of the lower where the buffer tube attaches is so far back... making a grip with a similar design to ours would set your hand too far back.

Post #6 in this thread shows our grip on a .308 lower.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...23&postcount=6

Our current grip does fit on a .308 lower, but won't be usable with your thumb over the top. There just isn't enough room for your thumb to fit between the grip and the lower where the buffer tube meets. Although you can still use it similar to how you would a Monsterman grip with your thumb to one side. This works very well if you mostly shoot prone or bench with your .308

[Justintoxicated]

Originally Posted by Sparrow Dynamics

Sorry, not at this time. Molds are incredibly expensive. ALSO, because the part of the lower where the buffer tube attaches is so far back... making a grip with a similar design to ours would set your hand too far back.

Post #6 in this thread shows our grip on a .308 lower.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...23&postcount=6

Our current grip does fit on a .308 lower, but won't be usable with your thumb over the top. There just isn't enough room for your thumb to fit between the grip and the lower where the buffer tube meets. Although you can still use it similar to how you would a Monsterman grip with your thumb to one side. This works very well if you mostly shoot prone or bench with your .308

Thanks, I think the thumb wrapping issue would be the case with a PRS stock anyways. I just wonder if the angle would be better than other grips that maintain more standard angle since I would not be able to wrap my thumbs around the back anyways. I have a hard time picturing this in my head. I'm thinking the angle would in fact be better still in either case but I am not sure.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

Thanks, I think the thumb wrapping issue would be the case with a PRS stock anyways. I just wonder if the angle would be better than other grips that maintain more standard angle since I would not be able to wrap my thumbs around the back anyways. I have a hard time picturing this in my head. I'm thinking the angle would in fact be better still in either case but I am not sure.

Yes, I personally feel the angle is much better especially if you have to use the "cradle hold" with your thumb to the side, because you are supporting the weight of the rifle with more fingers. When you have a grip fin, all the back-end weight of the rifle is on your middle finger. On a bigger rifle, this will matter more. Also, when you are on the bench or prone, it is still pretty natural to have your hand "pointing" that way (you really use the grip less and focusing on trigger control). Many people also suggest keeping your thumb to the side of the rifle when precision shooting including Ryan Cleckner. Lastly, I think our grip would look pretty awesome with a PRS stock and am hoping someone will post photos soon.

[Justintoxicated]

Originally Posted by Sparrow Dynamics

Yes, I personally feel the angle is much better especially if you have to use the "cradle hold" with your thumb to the side, because you are supporting the weight of the rifle with more fingers. When you have a grip fin, all the back-end weight of the rifle is on your middle finger. On a bigger rifle, this will matter more. Also, when you are on the bench or prone, it is still pretty natural to have your hand "pointing" that way (you really use the grip less and focusing on trigger control). Many people also suggest keeping your thumb to the side of the rifle when precision shooting including Ryan Cleckner. Lastly, I think our grip would look pretty awesome with a PRS stock and am hoping someone will post photos soon.

I'll post you a photo of the grip with a PRS stock when this guy I know gets it installed

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

I'll post you a photo of the grip with a PRS stock when this guy I know gets it installed

Thanks!

[crookedshooter]

I put mine on my c308 hk clone tat has an AR grip lower on it. But I am not sure if it keeps the web of my hand high enough.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Originally Posted by crookedshooter

I put mine on my c308 hk clone tat has an AR grip lower on it. But I am not sure if it keeps the web of my hand high enough.

Yea, it doesn’t look like it.

[crookedshooter]

Originally Posted by Sparrow Dynamics

Yea, it doesn’t look like it.

No problem it was worth and try I am still happy with the grip on my AR nicer that the fin i had.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Just a friendly reminder, the current sale ends tonight.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

The sale may have ended, but there is still this...
This is to say thank you to our Calguns.net community.

[MudCamper]

Originally Posted by Pranqster

Waiting for somebody (with more $$$ than me) to compare this to the resurgent arms and Liberal grips that have a more perpendicular frontstrap. Pretty please....

I have some comparative pics of all three over here.

And my full review of the Sparrow Dynamics grip is over here.

But I'm also going to copy it right here, just in case:

Larry with Sparrow Dynamics sent me one of their CRG-15 featureless grips. He also included one of their ambidextrous safety selectors. Thanks Larry!

I've lost track of how many featureless grip options I've tried by now, but it's more than ten. And the CRG-15 has landed squarely in my top three.

First, it's one of the best looking options out there, and it's available in several colors. The one I have is in FDE. (And the ambi selector is too.)

The grip allows you to wrap your thumb around it, in a way similar to a traditional rifle stock. It does not fall into the California pistol grip definition by not allowing your thumb below the exposed portion of the trigger. While not quite as comfortable as a pistol grip, it's still reasonably comfortable.

Adding an ambi safety selector is a nice bonus with this style of grip, as otherwise you can't easily reach the selector on the left side (if you are right-handed). The Sparrow Dynamics ambi selector is versatile - it allows for either 90 or 60 degree throw, and you can mount the levers at just about any angle on both sides. This one also included normal length and a prototype half-length lever. (This may or may not become a regular feature.)

OK some pictures.

First, the CRG-15 grip on a typical lower half:


And the other side:


from the back - the CRG-15 is hollow but it's reenforced and quite sturdy:


View from the front:


Comfortable grip, showing easy reach to the trigger:


And from the other side:


Comparing the CRG-15 to the closest competition:


Continued...

[MudCamper]

OK I want to put this on my featureless franken-AR, so getting ready for that:


All done. Pretty easy:


Other side. Remember you could mount that safety selector at other angles, or use the shorter lever:


The ambi safety and mag release are both easy to reach:


And you can hold and manipulate the rifle with one hand, something you cannot do with a fin design:


Overall this is a high quality, good looking, very functional grip, perfect for keeping your AR featureless.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Awesome review and photos! Thanks for posting! We really appreciate your time and effort on this.
Just a clarification: our safety does not come with the “bonus” short lever. That was just a prototype I threw in if you wanted to test it. We might switch to one long and one short lever. You might try flipping your right lever to be down for safe and coward for fire. You can actuate it with your trigger finger knuckle without letting go with your thumb. I personally prefer it that way, but everyone is different, so that is why we made it so customizable.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Mudcamper, did you ever try the safety in the forward position for fire? We only have a couple of safeties left in stock, BUT a new batch will be available very soon (gray too).

And gray grips! (Hopefully in week or so if the Magpul Stealth Gray color match works out.) We will email everyone on our mailing list when that is available.

[Ajlopez281]

Just received my grip supper quick shipping. I ordered it on the 14th and it was at my door on the 16th. It was packaged well. Awesome finish. It fits my large hand well. I am still able to engage my mil spec safety with my thumb but maintain positive control of my rifle. The OD Green matches Magpul OD Green really well. Just need to figure a way to plug or cap the end for extra storage. Thank you for an awesome product.

[malfini]

I purchased the sparrow grip from a fellow CG member..
I have tried a few different compliant grips!
(Hammerhead, Spur, Monster man and grip wrap)
Sparrow Dynamics has hit a HOME RUN with this one!!
The packaging is informative and simple.
It needed a bit of a file work for a perfect fit on my NFA 9mm lower. It is quite tough. I had to hit it with a rubber mallet many times during the fitting process. In the end the grip feels very solid and It is very comfortable. Even those who are not going featureless should consider this grip... it's that comfortable... I like the light texture. I like the addition of the star and stripes and the logo.. over all it is pleasing to the eye and was very well thought out.
All of my compliant grips will be replaced with the sparrow grip.... thanks