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Old 12-21-2018, 5:16 AM
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Default SAKO TRG 42 300 Win Mag scope ring question

I have had this SAKO TRG 42 300 Win Mag - unfired - in the box in my safe for years.

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Steiner 5-25x56 M5Xi Military Riflescope w/ MSR-V2 Reticle, Black, 8704 MSR-V2 34mm

What type of scope rings should I get to put this together with?
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I have an ADM low 20 moa qd mount on my chassis rifle.
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And you have no problems on your SAKO in 300 Win Mag or higher velocity rifle?
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if your rail is steel, get steel ring. Alum rail, get alum ring.

American Rifle company M10 SCOPE RINGS is very easy to level. Quality is top notch.

if you want QD type, ERA-TAC.
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Near Mfg has the best for the TRG-42.
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https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1497906

Something like this.
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Does the SPHUR have the same type of attachment that NEARMFG has?
http://www.nearmfg.com/products.htm

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Integral scope mounts/base are better than scope rings tightened on a base - ?

Sorry for the beginner questions, but I don't have anywhere near the experience found on this board on this subject.

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The Spuhr mounts on top of a Picatinny rail. The mount I posted is probably too tall for your application but it shows you what a quality mount looks like with integral rings.
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I ordered the Steiner T5Xi 5-25x56mm scope - https://www.opticsplanet.com/steiner...hoCv84QAvD_BwE, I am now worried that the bell of the scope may not clear the barrel. Would a medium ring or a high ring be required to successfully attach this scope? I was going to wait for OpticsPlanet to respond to my Email but their in stock number of these scopes went from 4 to 2 in the few hours I have been looking at it - so I pulled the trigger. Thank you for the replies to my newb questions.
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Near Mfg has the best for the TRG-42.
^^^^^ This...I second Near Mfg mount.


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It’s probably not cool anymore but I’ve had a Badger mount on my TRG-42 and never had any issues with it. It mounts a S&B PMII and has kept consistent and predictable zero.
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Find yourself a ruler, hold the scope in a spot you would be happy with, and measure. Many high quality ring/mount manufacturers publish measurements of their low, medium, and high rings/mounts.
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Integral scope mounts/base are better than scope rings tightened on a base - ?
As a general rule; yes. Fewer joints means fewer areas to become loose. That said, on the TRG42, the only integral mount that I'm aware of is the OEM SAKO unit which is very nice but for essentially the same money you could get a Near Mfg picatinny base/Alpha mount combo (all very high quality stainless steel) which in my opinion is no comparison.
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I have been staring at the bipod options for this rifle too, this seems like the best price for a SAKO bipod. - https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/sak...ipod/s5740495/ Atlas bipods seem recommended too - https://www.accu-shot.com/Atlas_Bipods.php

Attaching on the barrel is worse than attaching to the stock? Not sure, any recommendations for a bipod - ?

The Atlas can "pan" and "Cant" - not sure what the hell they mean by that - ?
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Find yourself a ruler, hold the scope in a spot you would be happy with, and measure. Many high quality ring/mount manufacturers publish measurements of their low, medium, and high rings/mounts.
I am not a long range shooter, wouldn't know what is a good height for that is, don't understand what "cant" and "pan" mean in terms of an Atlas bipod, I am basically trying to make this a good rig for distance shooting - as it is a 300 Win Mag, get it set up, and then let it gather dust in my safe. I don't think I even have 100 rounds of 300 Win Mag, though I do have reloading dies. I think I have a Weatherby and Rem 700 in 300 Win Mag that I have accumulated over the years. The Weatherby also is never fired, has no scope on its rings but the Rem 700 has been fired - probably last time in the early 90's. The longest range near me is only 200 yards and it is rarely open to the public.

I am leaning to go with the Near mfg base and their Alpha and ask them if that will work with the Sako TRG 42 and the Steiner M5Xi, because I asked OpticPlanets for their advice, I will wait a few days for a response before I decide to commit to Near mfg or not.
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I think SigStroker was telling you about the scope ring height.
People will go online and order the rings at the wrong height and wonder how it happened.
When you convert 56mm to inches it comes out to less than 2 and a quarter inches but when you measure a actual scope it comes out over 2 and three quarter inches.
The glass size means nothing you have to know the largest diameter.
A can of spray paint is just under 3 inches so you can lay it on top of your barrel then use a straight edge on top of your existing rail to get you in the ballpark.
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Right, he asked in post #10 about height.

Also, make sure you can run your bolt at the scope height you choose. When I bought a Winchester Model 70 at the local store, I bought a scope and rings too, and had them mount it. It looked great, nice and low. But the bolt handle hit the scope, so I had them re-do it with slightly higher rings. Can't shoot what you can't load.
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https://geissele.com/sr-25-ar-10-sup...ope-mount.html
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No need to reinvent the wheel. On a TRG-42 with picatinny rail and a 56mm objective scope, quality rings 1.3-1.5" will work.
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I got the scope today via Federal Express. They just left it on my doorstep. If I was not heading outside, I would not have known it got delivered. I guess they don't even require a signature for around a 3k object.

A little troublesome in my mind.
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I got the scope today via Federal Express. They just left it on my doorstep. If I was not heading outside, I would not have known it got delivered. I guess they don't even require a signature for around a 3k object.

A little troublesome in my mind.
Really hope you didn't pay that much for a Steiner

With that being said, I love Atlas bipod's ability to deploy forward/back/cant/etc. Easy to preload as well.

Worst case you buy the Atlas and don't like it, you can sell it immediately.
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Where would you buy a Steiner for less?
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Where would you buy a Steiner for less?
Not to deviate the thread, I would've bought (and currently own) different scopes.

I've looked through several Steiner scopes at the range and in the field and I never liked them compared to my own.

Get out to the range, go with a few buddies, and try out different bipods though if you're really unsure. Like I said I'm a big fan of Atlas and everyone that's tried my rifles loves them too.
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Well, I started the thread and I don't care if you deviate from the thread. Stream of consciousness is my middle name.

I consider Steiner and Leopold the top of the line. What scopes do you recommend? My eyesight is pretty bad so I am just putting these together for the next owner.
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Well, I started the thread and I don't care if you deviate from the thread. Stream of consciousness is my middle name.

I consider Steiner and Leopold the top of the line. What scopes do you recommend? My eyesight is pretty bad so I am just putting these together for the next owner.
I had a chance to compare a Steiner T5X (forget the mag), someone else's USO, another person's Athlon scope, my Nightforce ATACR, and my Bushnell Elite DMR (I had 2 or 3 rifles with me that day) in cloudy/low light conditions.

Off the top of my head I remember not liking the Athlon at all compared to even my Bushnell Elite which is probably my bottom end scope. Light gathering really sucked in the Athlon compared to the rest of the scopes.

It was both the Steiner and Athlon that didn't have as much clarity seeing past 200-300 yards (think one of them added some blue/gray hue too).

This was some time ago and I'd have to look through old posts when I posted my comparisons; bottom line USO and NF remain at the top of my list. I've looked through S&B's but never forked out the money for one.
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Where would you buy a Steiner for less?


I think what he’s saying is you can buy many great scopes in the 3k range. Some might say better brands, glass, reticles etc. are available at that price point.

Sounds like a nice stick your building there. Enjoy.
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Oh well, will look at NF and USO next time I try to glass a rifle.

Never actually heard of either before, but prior to this, hadn't been researching since the early 90's. Just went with Steiner since I was happy with the one I bought back then for my Rem 40x.
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Oh well, will look at NF and USO next time I try to glass a rifle.

Never actually heard of either before, but prior to this, hadn't been researching since the early 90's. Just went with Steiner since I was happy with the one I bought back then for my Rem 40x.


That 40x sounds nice. How’s she shoot?
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Way better than me. Everyone who I have let shoot it wants to have it. Only shot it at the 100 yard range so have no idea what it can do at a longer distance. 308 Win - got a number of 3 shot groups I could cover with a nickel with hand loads 168 MK with 41.4 IMR 4064 - if I can read my old writing on the ammo container. Not a light rifle, only a bench queen for me - been sitting in the safe for years now.

Would like to see if any of my other accumulation shoot as well. Too bad my eyes are much worse now.
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Ordered the Atlas and its spigot, just noticed I had the Sako type bipod on my Tikka so would like to see the difference side by side.
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Does Near Mfg have so much business that they don't answer multiple email questions?
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I guess I had some sort of failure to communicate.

His response to today's email was fast and efficient.

I didn't get his prior responses - ?
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