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Old 11-24-2023, 10:27 AM
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Default Rust proof hunting shotgun?

I?m looking for a pump action 12ga to replace my rusted out Remington 870 Wingmaster.
Want something with 28? barrel.

Any recommendations? Any pumps with a 28? stainless barrel?
Will I have to worry about rust prevention if I go with an 835 Ulti-mag Waterfowl?
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Old 11-24-2023, 11:17 AM
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Guns have only 2 enemies. Politicians and rust. Neither sleeps.

A few different coatings/platings, but no SS shotguns I'm aware of. .Mil thinks Parkerizing is one of the best.
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Renaissance wax before the hunt followed by aerosol CLP wipe down after. I wax all my wood on mine and take the wood off after to get the metal under it. Not really an issue especially on a hunting shotgun.

I've got a 1970s 870 and 1100 that were my dad's and he used the crap out of it in duck blinds and no rust.

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Huh. Alright what about buying one of Maritime/Marine-coat shotguns then buying a 28” barrel for it and having it Parkerized?

There’s got to be a way to have a near zero maintenance shotgun.
My AR’s and Glocks get used and abused and I never have any problems or rust.

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I just searched the web and found many. Most were short barreled. Remember the metal is called "stainLESS" NOT Stainproof. It can rust. Minimal maintenance is required.
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No such thing as a free lunch when it comes to rust. I have a 870 that chronically rusted if you even just looked at it. Rattle canned it and haven’t had any issues since. If you’re opposed to rattle can just send your current gun out for cerekote treatment. Absolutely no need for a new gun. With a decent rattle can or cerekote job it will be about rust resistant as anything new purposely built to resist rust.

Look at Wilson combat. They refurbish shotguns and can add a coating they claim is very good. They are the higher end for this kind of work but plenty of places will do something similar for cheaper.

I’ll definitely consider buying your rusted out wing master for a fair price if you really want to ditch it. I like a good project gun.

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IIRC, the Benelli H2O has SS springs and treated internal to the receiver. TMK only made in 18.5. But a longer barrel could be treated and installed. The barrel is the easiest to protect.

Are you hunting salt marshes?
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Have your 870 cerakoted.

If you want to protect it on the cheap - brownell’s alumahyde
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Add a spray down of this product to your cleaning ritual and no gun will rust.

https://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircra...ntent=Aircraft

It's a seriously amazing product developed to treat aircraft pulled from salt water originally.
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I would think Cerakoting would probably be a good solution to this. I know people who have done this and it?s worked well for them.
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Old 11-25-2023, 2:29 PM
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Not really relevant but I’ve only seen one all stainless steel shotgun for hunting before and that was a Ruger red label over under that was made in limited amounts years ago.
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I have a feeling cerekote would work better than stainless. Very few parts of the gun are stainless while it?s easier to cerekote most of the parts. The places that tend to rust are where the metal is dissimilar.

I’d stick with the 870 platform and do a cool rust resistant build. I’m sure someone makes coated springs and trigger groups.
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I have 75 year old rifles and shotguns with no rust. Now I use same old terry cloth towel with syn oil and clp in it. Spray firearm lightly with rem gun oil after washing mud off with dishwater. Then wipe whole gun down and put away. Lighlty oil moving parts,
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^ I have a decent collection of guns. Only 2 have ever had rust issues. My 870 rusted just sitting there and a touch on the bolt job of a 700. It’s just the metallurgy/coating sometimes. Not user error or lack of care. Some guns are just super prone to rust.
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Was it sn 870 Express?
870 Express barrels are known to be rust magnets.
The finish on those barrels was terrible.
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He said wingmaster but yes the express is known for rust. Even a wingmaster can have a bad coating once in a while.
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He said wingmaster but yes the express is known for rust. Even a wingmaster can have a bad coating once in a while.
Sorry, I should have used the ^.

I was asking about your 870, was it an 870 Express?
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Oh hell yeah it is. But two coats of rattle can and it?s now good to go. I can remember gun counter workers telling me they rusted brand new in box.
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Funny. My Express looks great. But I don't hunt with it. I bought it 2nd hand. It's from the era they had that "J" key for the safety. I replaced the safety with a big button and the extractor with Volquartsen.
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The Benelli Nova has a mostly plastic frame and stock. Rattle can the barrel, keep the bolt well lubed, and you're pretty well good to go.

I've been hunting over saltwater for years with that set up and have very few rust issues with little more than a post hunt wipedown.
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I use frog lube as a rust preventer. It is VERY good at preventing rust! Quick wipe down after a wet hunt and good cleaning and lube between seasons. No issues so far and they live in a humid environment during summer.

I also use froglube on my table saw, reloading dies and other stuff to prevent rust.
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Spray paint it. And clean it after water use. I've been doing that for 20 years with the same old Mossberg 500 that was old and beat up when I got it. Works great to this day.
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Eezox is pretty good for rust prevention. Just spray it on the gun surface, and gently wipe it dry. It worked magic on my 15+ years old 'Big 5 Special' 870 Express.

To me, the only drawback of Eezox is its strong smell, so spray it in an open area.

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I just took my ‘ol 870 Express duck hunting for the first time. I literally watched the thing rust before my eyes. I spent more time cleaning the rust off it than cleaning my ducks. I’m thinking cerakote is the answer.
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I used to hunt the salt ponds in SF bay and used Rig gun grease on a Rig rag for total wipe down before hunting.. Used a toothbrush to get the Rig under the vent rib.. Easy off after hunting with Gunscrubber and a clean toothbrush for under the rib..
Ceracote would be better for a lesser value shotgun if you didn?t care about the original finish Im thinking..
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I used to hunt the salt ponds in SF bay and used Rig gun grease on a Rig rag for total wipe down before hunting..
I used to hunt there as well, with a Remington 870 Express that practically visibly rusted right before your eyes. I always kept a spray can of WD-40 and a rag in the car, and that pretty much took care of everything.
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I used to hunt the salt ponds in SF bay and used Rig gun grease on a Rig rag for total wipe down before hunting.. Used a toothbrush to get the Rig under the vent rib.. Easy off after hunting with Gunscrubber and a clean toothbrush for under the rib..
Ceracote would be better for a lesser value shotgun if you didn?t care about the original finish Im thinking..
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I hunt the salton sea. Alkali soil/mus and super high salinity ate at everything. I would wipe down with aerosol oil and it prevented a lot of rust but not all. Any mud or oil would eat into the bluing on the barrel. Receiver was mossberg marine and it was maintenance free. I keep meaning to do multiple layers of krylon as it worked on my buddy?s 1100.
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Ya I learned alot of lessons hunting the salt ponds.. First thing I did when leaving ,, Hit the quarter wash and get the dirt and mud off your truck underneath.. Lots of salt in the dirt and rusting your truck brings no joy ?
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Not really relevant but I?ve only seen one all stainless steel shotgun for hunting before and that was a Ruger red label over under that was made in limited amounts years ago.
I believe only the receiver was stainless and not the barrels.
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Renaissance wax before the hunt followed by aerosol CLP wipe down after. I wax all my wood on mine and take the wood off after to get the metal under it. Not really an issue especially on a hunting shotgun.

I've got a 1970s 870 and 1100 that were my dad's and he used the crap out of it in duck blinds and no rust.

Obviously the proper calguns answer is to buy 2 extra shotguns just in case lol.
+1 on the Renaissance wax. I use it on my 2nd Gen Colt SAA and some fine shotguns I own. It really works great. It?s especially good for displaying firearms out in the open, without having a copious amount of ?goop? all over it.

Now if the OP doesn?t care about looks, then RIG grease from Birchwood-Casey is a long lasting preservation grease, specifically used to prevent moisture from rusting the surface metal and at a much cheaper price than Renaissance wax. A little goes a long way. It?s what I use for long term storage on firearms I have somewhere in another land, with higher than normal humidity.
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I believe only the receiver was stainless and not the barrels.
Yes. Investment cast SS receiver.
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I’ve got a 870a1 Mariner that I use and abuse and it shows no signs of rust.
Not for hunting though, it’s my bear deterrent while I’m up on our land in east Oklahoma.
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Look up Ruger red label all weather O/U the one with the synthetic stock.The early one , not the most recent with the grey finish . I could be wrong but the early versions looks like raw brushed finish stainless barrels on it that match the finish of the receiver. The later all weather probably had carbon barrels since it had the type of grey coating finish to make it water resistant which I’m sure is the same that they used on the first target grey Ruger Super RedHawks in 454 Casull w/ 7.5 inch barrels.
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I completely agree renaissance wax is a great product . I use it on a lot on my firearms/collectibles especially my Randall made knives.
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Id still probably go with a Benelli H2O and do something (paint, cerakote, etc.) to the barrel or just keep it oiled/waxed. The H2O's receiver and guts are designed to be about as rust resistant as can be.

Never been a fan of break action shotguns waterfowl hunting and you're already accustomed to a pump action.
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I?ve got a 870a1 Mariner that I use and abuse and it shows no signs of rust.
Not for hunting though, it?s my bear deterrent while I?m up on our land in east Oklahoma.
Love the 870 Mariner. I have one as well. I also had one of my three 870 Police Magnums hard-chromed many years ago. It too doesn?t rust and looks slick as all get-go.
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