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If true no it isn't, and this should really be posted in the 2A sub-forum.
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They will not process an application by mail and will not provide a 'approved' or 'denied' determination without completing the whole process. It's 'legal' until someone tells them otherwise. I believe this violates Salute v Pitchess. This is why it is still important to participate in the sunshine initiative in spite of the perception about Shasta County being a 'friendly' issuing authority.
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Yet another week has passed, still just silence since Jan 4, 2011.....
I'm beginning to feel like I wasted my money...
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Rock, we appreciate your support. Please understand that we have to attack these issues in a specific fashion and with the appropriate timing. There's tons of work behind the scenes preparing requests, demand letters, and litigation that will be published as soon as we can. If you truly feel like the Initiative is not valuable to our cause, I'll be glad to refund your money. However, I think that with some patience you'll find a lot to be excited about.
-Brandon
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http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=412790 You can be sure all the sheriffs in CA will be watching these lawsuits and, as wildhawker posted in that thread, start reviewing their policies lest they be next on CGF's federal lawsuit list.
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Shasta County Sheriff talks about CCW in Shasta County:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGFPy...094AC97CFA175B
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It's too bad Bosenko has no idea how much his policies violate state law on issuing. He even states in that video that right now they require the training class before the background check. Shasta needs the quick slap as much as any other counties. I tried to watch more of those videos but I can't handle it. Fact is, Bosenko and his deputies hold all the cards, and if they don't like anything about you, they won't issue. You want the CCW, you have to apply their way, pay for it their way, and deal with it their way. I hear about people getting CCWs in Butte county, without so much as a personal interview and no restrictions on the number of guns allowed on a permit. That is how it should be!
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Thanks for posting the video here Rock.
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I have one of those 'day jobs' too. Please do not take my requests for an update personally, I do not know you, nor do I have issues with you or any other individual here. I seek a status report. Not daily or weekly, but once per quarter should not be an overwhelming responsibility when CGF has financial donors for this project. Did the Sheriff provide the records? Did he evade the issue with legal tactics? Did he refuse the request?
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Can I commit to more [unnecessary] work? Absolutely not. Is this personal? That depends on where you take this conversation. Do understand that we care enough about this stuff to make your liberty a priority over even our own families at times (and in some cases, most times). Back to Shasta. If you can be patient, we can and will apply our resources to ensuring the County's respect for our fundamental rights and state law. If you can't, then feel free to do whatever you think is best; we'll simply have to wait and see where that puts things. -Brandon
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I took my ccw course through NFI firearms academy here in Redding. the course was the easiest part of the process. After numerous attempts to go to the Shasta County Sheriffs office(i.e. Holidays, Lunchtime, days off, Fridays) I finally got in there on a day they were open. I felt that I would have a harder time then most, due to being younger then most applying for CCW's. After waiting for all the offenders to go through line, I finally reached the window. After a lengthy interview, the sheriff finally gave me permission and told me as long as my background check came up clean, I was good to go. I thought I wouldn't recieve confirmation or denial for months after listening to the older gentleman rant and rave about how his wife recieved her permit in 3 days and it had been 3 months with no response for him. Much to my suprise, my CCW arrived in a little less then 3 weeks time(nearly a month ago). I cant speak for everyone, but I figured I'd share my experience, especially since I felt my chances weren't the best.
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Is that legal? I'm think'n not.
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No, it's not legal. Amendments should cost no more than $10.00.
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I must apologize, although I was originally told that would be the fee, it seems like Sheriff Bosenko stated otherwise during his Tea Party speech. However, in my defense, that was what I was originally told by the Sheriff's office because I have quite a few handguns and wasnt too fond of trying to pay that amount everytime I felt like carrying an "unlisted" handgun.
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PC 12054
(b) In the case of an amended license pursuant to subdivision (f) of Section 12050, the licensing authority of any city, city and county, or county may charge a fee, not to exceed ten dollars ($10), except that the fee may be increased at a rate not to exceed any increase in the California Consumer Price Index as compiled and reported by the California Department of Industrial Relations, for processing the amended license and shall transmit the fee to the city, city and county, or county treasury.
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We finally have a status report, dated June 2, 2011:
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Discussion thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...CGF+v.+Ventura Next action: June 6, 2011
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The $15 charge may be the $10 fee increased according to the Price Index.
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Where did you find that? What is to stop them from denying the addition of any more weapons, in writing or not?? If this is a change in policy, there is no reason to actually change it if they wish not to, if ya get my drift.. Now let's see how many really get added and what was really involved. I'm sure there will be stories to come!! When will CA get a clue as to what you can carry, like AZ, FL and now NV!
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I would like to talk to those anticipating to apply to the Shasta County Sheriff for their initial license to carry in the immediate future. Please contact me via PM.
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Currently, the Sheriff's published policy requires documentation as proof of residency and duration. They generally request utility bills to fulfill their requirement. This is not legal according to the statute governing licencing and a violation of the 14th amendment.
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I moved to Redding ~3 weeks ago and working in the service industry and leaving late at night with large amounts of money in my pocket makes me EXTREMELY uncomfortable. I would very much so like to get my CCW but this year requirement is the only thing stopping me. Also, I am currently renting a room from a family friend, so my proof of residence would be interesting circumstances as well. I have no utilities in my name and won't be in the near future. How would I be able to prove my residence. I do have a P.O. Box but was told that's not acceptable. Would a pay stub be acceptable? How about a cell phone bill? Renter's insurance? I appreciate any response I can get and truly appreciate everything anyone involved has done to protect our rights. Thank you |
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The obvious problems with this are; 1) There is no statutory duration for which residency is established. (1 year, 1 month, or 1 week are utterly irrelevant and the Sheriff cannot impose this criteria. What matters is that this is where you have taken up your primary domicile. It could have been 10 minutes ago, for all the statute is concerned.) 2) The issuing agency may not require additional documentation besides the application to make a determination. In order to move this ball forward, you would need to apply in person and get the S/O to memorialize the reason they are telling you no. If you want to play the Sheriff's little game and 'prove' that you are a resident to his satisfaction, you could have your landlord write a letter detailing the date your rental agreement commenced. Since you have only been here 3 months he (read; his statutorily illiterate staff) will tell you that you are ineligible to be issued a licence and they will probably hand you back your application without drafting a letter detailing the reason you are being denied. My recommendation is to talk with Wildhawker about what might be done to get the Sheriff to comply with the law. You are not the only one in Shasta who is having issues with non-compliance... most applicants just move through the Sheriffs cattle chutes, and do what is asked in their clearly unlawful policy statement but this is going to end one way or another.
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Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat “Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.” Friedrich Nietzsche |
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Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat “Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.” Friedrich Nietzsche |
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It's gratifying to know that Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko does read Calguns.net and supports 'shall issue in Sacramento County'. It is extraordinarily ironic that in spite of this revelation, Sheriff Bosenko has failed to reform his carry license policies to conform with California law and furthermore supports 'shall issue' in another county while he and his staff impose super-statutorial qualifications and use unlimited discretion in the same manner one might expect a restrictive issuing agency to disqualify applicants. One might give the benefit of the doubt to the Sheriff, if this was a mistake of being an unwitting or ignorant bureaucrat- but by reading Calguns, and having twice (to my knowledge) received correspondence detailing the impact of SB610 on carry licensing, it is less convincing to observers to accept that the Sheriff is not congnizant of the problem with their policies or their departments wrongdoing. So a question remains. What will it take for Sheriff Bosenko to reform?
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Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat “Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.” Friedrich Nietzsche |
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To bad CA can't be as simple as Nevada, your a resident of the state of NV when you claim to be.! I recently changed a weapon on my permit, outside of renewal time and the cost was $10.00. Last time I did a change, has been at renewal time and there was no charge. If you're wanting to save a few dollars, wit till renewal time comes around for you.
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It is that simple in California,... unless the issuing agency has made up some minimum duration requirement and demands proof.
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