Pro-gun lobbyist murdered

[DanGunner]

Kathy Lynch, who lobbied for sportsmen's groups and against gun control bills in California Legislature. and her boyfriend were murdered in their suburban Sacramento home. https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/cr...259912055.html

[mafbloggerdanny]

They are saying she was killed by her son who fled the scene with a gun in hand and was later found and shot by Sheriffs and taken to hospital.

My boss knew her years ago and says her son was adopted.

[middleofnowhere]

Here is another Sac Bee article.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...Oif34ODdduLR3M

Kathy Lynch, 67, and her longtime boyfriend, Gerald Upholt, 80, better than Paredes, the executive director of one of the state’s largest gun-rights advocacy groups, Gun Owners of California. Lynch advocated for years on behalf of hunting groups, and she often opposed or supported the same bills Paredes did. Upholt, before he stepped away from lobbying full time in the mid-2000s, was the lobbyist for the California Rifle and Pistol Association. Paredes said the men worked side-by-side on gun-rights causes for years. He considered the couple dear friends.

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...#storylink=cpy

The son was adopted from Russia at age 3.

[johnnyh75]

RIP

[ja308]

Looks like the adopted son Lynch will now become a FOG who will live out his natural life with TV, food ,A/C,sports ,books and companionship !

Today many California mass murderers, convicted with smoking gun proof have been elevated to the FOG status .
One only needs to have a jury pass down a sentence of death to be eligible for the FOG club.

[SilveradoColt21]

RIP to both of them, I wonder what was going on with their adopted son.

[MyOdessa]

Originally Posted by SilveradoColt21

RIP to both of them, I wonder what was going on with their adopted son.

According to news, Dennis Lynch was out on bail for two separate felonies at the time of murders.

[Gryff]

Wasn't she the one that got the bad reputation working as a lobbyist for the CRPA? I think something to do with undermining pro-gun bills as a political favor to someone else.

[MountainLion]

Originally Posted by Gryff

Wasn't she the one that got the bad reputation working as a lobbyist for the CRPA? I think something to do with undermining pro-gun bills as a political favor to someone else.

She was well known as an enemy of Calguns, Gene Hoffman and Bill Wiese:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=208047

[bwiese]

Originally Posted by MountainLion

She was well known as an enemy of Calguns, Gene Hoffman and Bill Wiese:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=208047

1. This is a sad sad situation regardless of any personal/political drama.

IIRC/FWIH the son was adopted from an East Bloc? Russian? 'orphanage'.
Many such kids grow up with attachment disorders/brain damage: without
therapy at the right times they often are pretty 'broken'.

I know nothing beyond this, but commend them for trying to help a kid out,
giving him a nice home (Loomis is a nice area), etc. Nobody should ever
be faulted for this: I'm sure the kid was fed, clothed, funded etc. nicely
and guessing $$$ spent on treatment.


2. She tried to sue various folks after issues pointed out - and was shut down.

Broadly, lotsa drama back 2+ decades ago with the Roster, incompetent SASS
with their NRA turncoat, going against NRA advice, etc. We ended up trading
a win (we had the votes at the time in committees, etc.) for the small win of
protecting 'cowboy guns'. [The DOJ even used cowboy gun stuff as 'we're not
anti-gun' PR if you read thru some of their emails garnered thru PRARs - hell,
they'd set up DOJ booths at western shoots etc.]

CRPA lobbying quality vastly improved when Tom Pederson (also w/ aid of
Joel Friedman) stepped in. And I'm MOST happy that Chuck Michel is running
CRPA.

Ms Lynch also, past this drama, was on record doing things like protecting
Airsoft guns vs airguns (the latter being part of CRPA/NRA interest in
protecting.) - this is in the record and prob still searchable now.

However, I must commend G. Upholt for his work addiing the 2006 'single
shot exemption' to the Roster - which we ran the hell outta, until AB1964
kicked in in 2014.

RIP.

[middleofnowhere]

Originally Posted by MountainLion

She was well known as an enemy of Calguns, Gene Hoffman and Bill Wiese:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=208047

Thanks for posting that thread.

[Creeping Incrementalism]

I remember the bizarre and confusing drama between Gerry and his girlfriend, vs. Calguns/ the California gun community, years ago. I stopped paying my annual CRPA dues and lost interest, even if the situation at CRPA later improved.

Like Bill seems to be wondering, I also am wondering -- what are the odds it was an orphan from Russia? I think it is a pessimistic view to say that the medical issues of infants and children not being treated well, physically or mentally, are lifelong; or that the inherited genetic issues cannot be overcome. But I think some of that pessimistic view is definitely valid.

[BAJ475]

Originally Posted by bwiese

...However, I must commend G. Upholt for his work addiing the 2006 'single shot exemption' to the Roster - which we ran the hell outta, until AB1964 kicked in in 2014.

RIP.

Ran the hell outta is an understatement! I had five or six PPQs that I SSEed with a kit my son and I put together. The only thing that slowed us down SSEing off roster pistols was the 1 in 30 BS. He even SSEed a PPQ Navy that came with a threaded barrel. That pistol along with all of my SSEed PPQs were sold by PPT before I left CA. Before CA started their DOJ SN BS, I was going to SSE2 2011s. I still have the single shot uppers if anyone is interested using 2011 frames from Cheely Gun Works in Michigan or Brazos Custom Gunworks in Texas.

[advocatusdiaboli]

Originally Posted by bwiese

I must commend G. Upholt for his work addiing the 2006 'single
shot exemption' to the Roster - which we ran the hell outta, until AB1964
kicked in in 2014.

Damn right. Some pistols I lost in a boating accident were bought in that period.

[bwiese]

Originally Posted by Creeping Incrementalism

Like Bill seems to be wondering, I also am wondering -- what are the odds it was an orphan from Russia? I think it is a pessimistic view to say that the medical issues of infants and children not being treated well, physically or mentally, are lifelong; or that the inherited genetic issues cannot be overcome. But I think some of that pessimistic view is definitely valid.

Please read up on babies raised in Romanian orphanages. Lotsa mental issues;
Ceaucescu wanted a baby boom of 'wonderful socialist labor growth' and them families couldn't feed the extra kids even with (worthless) govt subsidies. Huge numbers in mass state homes, understaffed/uncared for, from time they were infants and thru the 1989 (90?) revolution. Malnourishment, no attention/care, etc. can really screw up lotsa kids.

Then the "help poor European kids" corrupt 'baby brokers' foisted these kids on to adoptive US parents with zero warning about issues.

[advocatusdiaboli]

Originally Posted by bwiese

Please read up on babies raised in Romanian orphanages. Lotsa mental issues;
Ceaucescu wanted a baby boom of 'wonderful socialist labor growth' and them families couldn't feed the extra kids even with (worthless) govt subsidies. Huge numbers in mass state homes, understaffed/uncared for, from time they were infants and thru the 1989 (90?) revolution. Malnourishment, no attention/care, etc. can really screw up lotsa kids.

Then the "help poor European kids" corrupt 'baby brokers' foisted these kids on to adoptive US parents with zero warning about issues.

I agree Bill. It boils down to a Nature versus Nurture issue. Without a lot of evidence in the past, people made an emotional decision on which to think dominated (both are in play). But ask yourself how birds follow the earth's magnetic field to migrate. That ain't nurture: instinct is passed in DNA and humans inherit DNA just like all other animals. I believe Nature and not Nurture is by far dominant and adoption is a turn of a roulette wheel with a lean towards trouble because only troubled people give up their children. Colin Kaepernick is perfect example of how it all goes wrong when Nature kicks in and overrides Nurture. There are so many variables that there can be no general statement about adoption: there are success stories and tragedies but tragedy seems to dominate. Each person has to decide what kind of risk they want to take and make sure they understand all the risks and are willing to take them on. There are some great foster kids out there, your own call and no one can tell you what is right for you.

[CandG]

Oh wow. As a a local, I heard about this story a while ago from my local SD. But I had no idea who she was until seeing this thread.

According to reports, the couple had been dead a few days by the time they were found. Son was found still there at the house, gun in hand, while the bodies had been decomposing for some time. So clearly there were some mental health issues with the kid, though I won't speculate as to exactly what's wrong with him, since I don't know.