The Chosen

[Lmo]

I just finished watching the series The Chosen; I thought it followed scripture accurately, while presenting a more 'contemporary' portrayal of 'life'.

Has anyone else seen it?

https://www.angel.com/watch/the-chos...xoCiZMQAvD_BwE

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9471404/

[Wordupmybrotha]

Nope, haven't seen it, haven't heard of it. Might be good, I don't know.
Hollywood has a way of bastardizing the biblical truth though.

For example, as good as the movie 10 Commandments was, it's not biblically accurate. For instance, Aaron was supposed to be the spokesperson for Moses when they go to the Pharaoh, but Moses goes alone in the movie. It is Aaron's staff that turns into a snake and swallows the magician's snake, but Aaron is missing.

[1911RONIN]

Aside from the classics (Ben Hur, Ten Commandments), it is the best faith based show ever produced. And the best presentation of Jesus you will ever get. Production values are great, as is the writing and acting.


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[anonymous308]

This has been on my short list for a while. Glad to hear it is well received.

[Lmo]

Hollywood has a way of bastardizing the biblical truth though.

Rejoice! "The Chosen" is not a 'Hollywood' project. Independently produced and the first season was 100% donor funded (KickStart). Following the end of the last episode of each season ALL of the donors names are run after the production the 'credits' (as wide as the screen, the list scrolled down for many minutes).

You can pay to watch it, or you can watch it for free because of the studio's "Pay It Forward" option, whereby your donation will allow others to watch it for free. Kind of a contemporary take on Mark 16:15 "And he said to them, 'Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.'"

Watch a few trailers after this one (they are at the right side of the screen)

[1911RONIN]

Watch it on The Chosen app. It's free.


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[iMigraine]

Just started watching Season one with my elderly mom who suffers from dementia. She and I love it! It humanizes the apostles and makes them relatable. They way Mary Magdelene is portrayed was believable as a women who suffered from sexual and psychological abuse. An outcast who Jesus saves her when she is trying to end her life.

I liked Erick Avari's portrayal of Nicodemus too.
Amazing series so far and from what my brothers who watched it; they are loving it too. Highly recommend!

[FF90]

All I can say about it is "WATCH IT" , and "LEARN" , we have watched it more than once

[PogoJack]

If you have Roku, you can install Angel studios and it has the Chosen for free as well as a few other nice things for the kids.

[TrailerparkTrash]

I can?t back the show. Dallas Jenkins (creator of The Chosen) is a wishy-washy person who doesn?t seem to know the definition of what a true Christian actually is. Here?s some excerpts from Jordan Riley?s podcast of the concerns with the series?..

1. Dallas Jenkins owns 44% of The Chosen. The other 56% is owned by the Mormons.

2. Dallas Jenkins goes on podcasts and defends the LDS religion regularly.

3. Season 2-3 was shot on an exclusive LDS-only film stage/set in Utah.

4. VidAngel who distributes the series is owned exclusively by Mormons.

Christian Pastors Voddie Bauchman and John MacArthur can?t back the series either, due to too many biblical errors with the show’s portrayal of the character playing Jesus, who says things that Jesus would never have said, because they are actual contradictions within the Bible. That?s a huge issue for me personally.

https://youtu.be/xllQUpEveDs

[glassparman]

Watch it for the entertainment because it is well done . . . not Biblical Accuracy. Too much LDS influence. If you want accuracy . . . read the Bible Straight Up!

Don't get offended, just my 2 cents worth.

[1911RONIN]

Originally Posted by TrailerparkTrash

I can?t back the show. Dallas Jenkins (creator of The Chosen) is a wishy-washy person who doesn?t seem to know the definition of what a true Christian actually is. Here?s some excerpts from Jordan Riley?s podcast of the concerns with the series?..

1. Dallas Jenkins owns 44% of The Chosen. The other 56% is owned by the Mormons.

2. Dallas Jenkins goes on podcasts and defends the LDS religion regularly.

3. Season 2-3 was shot on an exclusive LDS-only film stage/set in Utah.

4. VidAngel who distributes the series is owned exclusively by Mormons.

Christian Pastors Voddie Bauchman and John MacArthur can?t back the series either, due to too many biblical errors with the show?s portrayal of the character playing Jesus, who says things that Jesus would never have said, because they are actual contradictions within the Bible. That?s a huge issue for me personally.

https://youtu.be/xllQUpEveDs

If one cannot objectively and specifically call out the biblical errors, then the criticism is worthless. The above reasoning constitutes non sequiturs. They are neither logical nor biblical reasons for not watching the show.

Too many object to the show based on their denomination's theology, and not the scriptures.

They took creative license with plausible back storys, which isn't unbiblical. It is non-biblical, which is a separate category.


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[TrailerparkTrash]

Originally Posted by 1911RONIN

If one cannot objectively and specifically call out the biblical errors, then the criticism is worthless. The above reasoning constitutes non sequiturs. They are neither logical nor biblical reasons for not watching the show.

Too many object to the show based on their denomination's theology, and not the scriptures.

They took creative license with plausible back storys, which isn't unbiblical. It is non-biblical, which is a separate category.


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So you went there with “non sequiturs,” by presenting a false dilemma. Nice, so I guess I’ll bring it… On the show when Jesus teaches Nicodemus at night... Jesus tells Nicodemus that He has come to this world to save man from the punishment of sin. On the show, Nicodemus questions Jesus and asks Him, ?is the Kingdom of God really coming?? The tv show depicts Jesus replying with “what does your heart tell you?” (…and then a pause).

The show throws it back on sinful man, to follow and listen to his own sinful ?heart!? Jesus wouldn?t do that, nor does Jesus say anything remotely resembling this fact to Nicodemus in John chapter 3. In fact, Jesus preached to rely on He Himself and NOT one?s own sinful and broken ?self,? because man is incapable of doing such because we are all born with ?black hearts.? (John 15:5. 2 Corinthians 3:5).

We are called to trust in The Lord with all of our heart and to not lean on our own understanding. (The tv show promoted self-reliance with that scene, completely contradicting core Christian belief). In all of our ways we are to acknowledge The Lord for setting our paths straight. (Proverbs 3:5-6). We cannot be self reliant with our hearts, in order to find ourselves in the kingdom of The Lord.

The tv show has several of these little nuances and slightly shaded different meanings to the actual text of the Bible. …and this is wrong.

Again, look at who the majority stake holder is with the tv show. If one contradicts essential Christian doctrine, then one not only blurs but obliterates the line of demarcation between the Kingdom of Christ and the kingdom of a false gospel.

[1911RONIN]

Originally Posted by TrailerparkTrash

So you went there with ?non sequiturs,? by presenting a false dilemma. Nice, so I guess I?ll bring it? On the show when Jesus teaches Nicodemus at night... Jesus tells Nicodemus that He has come to this world to save man from the punishment of sin. On the show, Nicodemus questions Jesus and asks Him, ?is the Kingdom of God really coming?? The tv show depicts Jesus replying with ?what does your heart tell you?? (?and then a pause).

The show throws it back on sinful man, to follow and listen to his own sinful ?heart!? Jesus wouldn?t do that, nor does Jesus say anything remotely resembling this fact to Nicodemus in John chapter 3. In fact, Jesus preached to rely on He Himself and NOT one?s own sinful and broken ?self,? because man is incapable of doing such because we are all born with ?black hearts.? (John 15:5. 2 Corinthians 3:5).

We are called to trust in The Lord with all of our heart and to not lean on our own understanding. (The tv show promoted self-reliance with that scene, completely contradicting core Christian belief). In all of our ways we are to acknowledge The Lord for setting our paths straight. (Proverbs 3:5-6). We cannot be self reliant with our hearts, in order to find ourselves in the kingdom of The Lord.

The tv show has several of these little nuances and slightly shaded different meanings to the actual text of the Bible. ?and this is wrong.

Again, look at who the majority stake holder is with the tv show. If one contradicts essential Christian doctrine, then one not only blurs but obliterates the line of demarcation between the Kingdom of Christ and the kingdom of a false gospel.

If you are dead in your trespasses and sins, how can you believe with all your heart? With that black heart, as you might say? It can't be trusted, in your view.

The embellishment portrays a Jesus that already knows that Nicodemus is on the cusp of conversion.


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[TrailerparkTrash]

Originally Posted by 1911RONIN

If you are dead in your trespasses and sins, how can you believe with all your heart? With that black heart, as you might say? It can't be trusted, in your view.

The embellishment portrays a Jesus that already knows that Nicodemus is on the cusp of conversion.


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Well, what does the Bible say in response to what you?re saying? I listed 3 or 4 verses where we are told to TRUST JESUS with all our hearts. We are NOT to rely on our hearts in ourselves. Big difference. Look up the verses from the Bible that I cited.

Ultimately, here?s the bottom line issue with The Chosen TV show: The great concern is for those who profess faith, but are being led away from scripture, because it is more convenient and palpable to watch a fictional based representation of Jesus being portrayed on an entertainment desired TV show.

You just proved my point with your last comment that while you profess faith and I have no doubt you are a Christian, however you?re allowing a fictional TV show portray what Jesus supposedly said with some big inaccuracies and false assumptions, contrary to what the Bible says. With all due respect, it?s more convenient for you as others, to just accept a pleasing to the ear (and eyes) feel-good man-made TV show, than to actually read, verify and understand what the Bible says that Jesus actually did during that time period.

I?m not telling anybody to not watch the show. That?s a personal decision everyone must make for themselves. Rather I?m just saying that one might want to follow along with a genuine Bible in hand and have the proper discernment skills to see false (or proper) biblical teaching from that series.

Also, look at who?s providing the majority of the the so called ?biblical message? in the story line of The Chosen. It?s 56% of the Mormon church who has the ultimate say in the script line whether you like it or not. That?s enough for me to say, ?no thank you,? I?ll pass. I?ll stick with the Bible itself to read what Jesus said and did.

I have no beef with Mormons personally. But I vigorously defend Christianity from Mormonism. But know that Mormonism and orthodox Christianity are NOT even close to being one in the same religion. I say to all other religions, ?you do you Boo.? Just don?t classify your religion with Christianity and likewise, I won?t classify my religion (Christianity) with yours.

[Subotai]

I'll pass, because of the nuances stated above. Mormons believe that the Book of Mormon "corrects" the mistakes of the Bible, or in other words, "defines" what the Bible did not define. The Book of Mormon is in conflict with some information in the Bible, accordingly. Personally, I believe that they are not Christians. They believe that they are the true Christians and the rest of us are at best misguided. They are certainly not a "denomination" or a part of the other Christians out there. They are a different religion.

[1911RONIN]

Originally Posted by TrailerparkTrash

Well, what does the Bible say in response to what you?re saying? I listed 3 or 4 verses where we are told to TRUST JESUS with all our hearts. We are NOT to rely on our hearts in ourselves. Big difference. Look up the verses from the Bible that I cited.

Ultimately, here?s the bottom line issue with The Chosen TV show: The great concern is for those who profess faith, but are being led away from scripture, because it is more convenient and palpable to watch a fictional based representation of Jesus being portrayed on an entertainment desired TV show.

You just proved my point with your last comment that while you profess faith and I have no doubt you are a Christian, however you?re allowing a fictional TV show portray what Jesus supposedly said with some big inaccuracies and false assumptions, contrary to what the Bible says. With all due respect, it?s more convenient for you as others, to just accept a pleasing to the ear (and eyes) feel-good man-made TV show, than to actually read, verify and understand what the Bible says that Jesus actually did during that time period.

I?m not telling anybody to not watch the show. That?s a personal decision everyone must make for themselves. Rather I?m just saying that one might want to follow along with a genuine Bible in hand and have the proper discernment skills to see false (or proper) biblical teaching from that series.

Also, look at who?s providing the majority of the the so called ?biblical message? in the story line of The Chosen. It?s 56% of the Mormon church who has the ultimate say in the script line whether you like it or not. That?s enough for me to say, ?no thank you,? I?ll pass. I?ll stick with the Bible itself to read what Jesus said and did.

I have no beef with Mormons personally. But I vigorously defend Christianity from Mormonism. But know that Mormonism and orthodox Christianity are NOT even close to being one in the same religion. I say to all other religions, ?you do you Boo.? Just don?t classify your religion with Christianity and likewise, I won?t classify my religion (Christianity) with yours.

I'll rephrase. What in you responded to the offer of Jesus' invitation to follow Him? Was that thing in you that trusted Jesus with? If it isn't you that responded, then how are you saved?


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[1911RONIN]

Originally Posted by Subotai

I'll pass, because of the nuances stated above. Mormons believe that the Book of Mormon "corrects" the mistakes of the Bible, or in other words, "defines" what the Bible did not define. The Book of Mormon is in conflict with some information in the Bible, accordingly. Personally, I believe that they are not Christians. They believe that they are the true Christians and the rest of us are at best misguided. They are certainly not a "denomination" or a part of the other Christians out there. They are a different religion.

Judge the product on its own merits.


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[TrailerparkTrash]

Originally Posted by 1911RONIN

I'll rephrase. What in you responded to the offer of Jesus' invitation to follow Him? Was that thing in you that trusted Jesus with? If it isn't you that responded, then how are you saved?


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I responded to the light of conscience. Paschal was right. He said that God dwells in enough light so that if we want to find it, we will. And He dwells in enough obscurity so that if we don't want to find Him, we won't.

Again, the way Jesus explained this to Nicodemus, and he's the ultimate authority, He said light came into darkness, men loved darkness rather than light because their deeds were evil. So the problem was not enough light, it?s that men love darkness.

In Romans chapter 2, Paul explains that we have the light of conscience. God has written a knowledge of himself upon the tablet of our conscience. Jesus makes plane that if we respond to light then we will be given more light. If we reject light then God will remain shrouded in obscurity. My soul, my conscience responded to the light, plain and simple.

[1911RONIN]

Originally Posted by TrailerparkTrash

I responded to the light of conscience. Paschal was right. He said that God dwells in enough light so that if we want to find it, we will. And He dwells in enough obscurity so that if we don't want to find Him, we won't.

Again, the way Jesus explained this to Nicodemus, and he's the ultimate authority, He said light came into darkness, men loved darkness rather than light because their deeds were evil. So the problem was not enough light, it?s that men love darkness.

In Romans chapter 2, Paul explains that we have the light of conscience. God has written a knowledge of himself upon the tablet of our conscience. Jesus makes plane that if we respond to light then we will be given more light. If we reject light then God will remain shrouded in obscurity. My soul, my conscience responded to the light, plain and simple.

And what is theologically significant difference between your heart and your soul? Conscience merely adjudicates. It doesn't believe anything.


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[NavCop]

Matthew 7:15-20
New International Version
True and False Prophets

15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

[TrailerparkTrash]

Originally Posted by 1911RONIN

And what is theologically significant difference between your heart and your soul? Conscience merely adjudicates. It doesn't believe anything.


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Yes, conscience “adjudicates,” meaning that a side is taken. A decision is made between two or more decisions or BELIEFS to be made. It’s taking a stance on some type of subject matter either with or without Jesus as one’s ultimate guide on the decision making process. I test all things [in light of scripture] and hold fast to that which is good (1 Thessalonians 5: 19-22). My soul is directed by Jesus Christ alone.

The BIBLE is the final court of arbitration, that we test all things. That is my “theology” method or guide of arbitration and not the human self-centered “heart.”

[Garand Hunter]

Try reading the verses in Romans ch 10, its fool proof ! Verses 8 thru 11. The mormons are also invited as anyone else who reads these verses and ACTS as instructed in these verses, anyone !

Psalm 1

[1911RONIN]

Originally Posted by TrailerparkTrash

Yes, conscience ?adjudicates,? meaning that a side is taken. A decision is made between two or more decisions or BELIEFS to be made. It?s taking a stance on some type of subject matter either with or without Jesus as one?s ultimate guide on the decision making process. I test all things [in light of scripture] and hold fast to that which is good (1 Thessalonians 5: 19-22). My soul is directed by Jesus Christ alone.

The BIBLE is the final court of arbitration, that we test all things. That is my ?theology? method or guide of arbitration and not the human self-centered ?heart.?

You didn't answer the question. What part of you was the part that believed when you were born again? And was that a redeemed part at the time? If it was already redeemed, then the new birth is superfluous. If it wasn't, then by your theology, you couldn't be saved anyway, because it was that old black heart...and you are yet in your sins.


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[TrailerparkTrash]

Originally Posted by 1911RONIN

You didn't answer the question. What part of you was the part that believed when you were born again? And was that a redeemed part at the time? If it was already redeemed, then the new birth is superfluous. If it wasn't, then by your theology, you couldn't be saved anyway, because it was that old black heart...and you are yet in your sins.


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I?m not understanding your question nor the point you?re trying to make. Be a little more clear with what you?re asking and not so convoluted with your question. We are talking about a TV show and whether or not it should be viewed as ?biblically accurate? or not. I think you?ve gone off the rails a bit. I?m happy to answer your question, if you?re just more clear about what you?re trying to ask and convey.