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Old 08-09-2019, 1:33 PM
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The Smith and Wesson "resolution". Catchy name for a hand gun.
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A privilege? That's what you call asking permission to continue to exercise a severely limited right? Are you also going to say it was a privilege to hand over your rifle for destruction to the LEOs pounding on your door?

Can't wait for the day LA announces a full semi-auto ban. Some city has to lead the charge ya know..
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The guy looks like a baby raper.
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Is he a friend of jeffery epstein? (LOL)
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when this bill passes, the LA County will have a nice list to use from all the registered AW's.
Correct me if I am wrong, I believe it is legal to turn a BBRAW into a featureless rifle and start a deregistration process. Which is why I believe a featureless ban is a bigger priority for them. Makes no sense to confiscate tiny amount of BBRAWs while thousands of featureless rifles are still being sold. This is just testing waters.
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Is it just me or does Koretz look mildly retarded. I don’t know how he gets reelected when I never hear anything positive from his constituents.
It's not just you... and "mildly" is being kind.
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Seems to me this would run afoul of what little protection we get from the state pre-emption law.
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I don't think it would survive state pre-emption, especially since it's regarding firearms, not their logic about magazines with the magazine ban (which they ultimately gave up on).
Just bear in mind that there's growing noise about such preemption... State Preemption of Local Legislation Is Getting Worse

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...43 states that have laws that preempt or preclude cities and municipal governments from creating their own gun control ordinances—this despite the fact that cities bear the brunt of gun violence in most states...
CITIES ARE FIGHTING BACK AGAINST STATE PREEMPTION POLICIES ON LOCAL GUN CONTROL LAWS

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..."[Preemption is] happening in your state," wrote mayors from Pittsburgh, Tallahassee, and Portland this March, in a joint op-ed in USA Today. "And it's happening because lobbyists and special interests know it's easier to influence a few state lawmakers in 50 state capitols than thousands of local mayors and city councils." (It's easier still to influence a few policymakers at the federal level, which has contributed to a national chilling effect.)...
In Much of the Country, Cities Can’t Enact Their Own Gun Laws

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...This way of restricting local law-making was pioneered by tobacco companies looking to head off regulation in the 1960s and ‘70s. But in the last few decades, the National Rifle Association, through its supporters in state legislatures, has repeatedly used pre-emption to successfully block gun reform efforts. And the threat of lawsuits against cities that run afoul of the legislation has had a chilling effect on local lawmakers across the country, even in deep blue states like California...
Bear in mind that anti-gun proponents (among other anti-civil rights activists, pro-illegal immigrant pundits [sanctuary cities], et al.) announced several years ago that they would be shifting their efforts to State and Local levels. This seems to be part of that shift. Also bear in mind that the... enthusiasm... for such a push back cuts both ways; such as in...

HISTORIC NIGHT - NEEDLES, CA DECLARES ITSELF A 2A SANCTUARY CITY!
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This POS sat on his hands and came up with excuse after excuse to claim there was nothing he could do when we had a skid row of 200 plus tweakers taking up two entire city blocks in the middle of a residential neighborhood in Hollywood for over a year.

As for all of thefts, assaults, stabbings and murders? "Meh whatever" was his response until a few local news reporters who happen to live in the neighborhood finally publicly shamed him into action and the camp was finally cleared out.

Of course dozens of innocent neighbors had been robbed, burglarized, attacked, beaten, terrorized and stabbed by then, but why would he care?

The guy is truly a disgusting pig in every sense.
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How do these people get elected to public office? Does this guy look capable of making rules for everybody else to follow?

Based on his photo, LA should ban donuts...
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I have a special disgust for this thread.... it can be explained by these links to posts I made a good while ago.

So this is now both a sore spot and a look back at what could have been:

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...ghlight=Koretz

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...z#post10721566

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I am worried that Trump will side with them and institute a new AW ban all in the name of pandering to the voters.
Not gonna happen - the Republican Senators won't allow it and I'm sure Don Trump Jr. will school him too.
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On another topic, the Sacramento Bee notes
These Democrat politicians are all such petty little children.
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Default Our friend Paul Koretz: ban possession of AW's in Los Angeles

Paul Koretz, current LA city councilman and former state assemblyman,
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Paul Koretz represents Los Angeles City Council District 5, which includes Westwood and UCLA. Koretz introduced a motion Aug. 7 to the city council that, if enacted, would prohibit the possession of all assault weapons in Los Angeles without exception.
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Koretz said it will likely take more than a year for the motion to reach Mayor Eric Garcetti’s desk. There will surely be legal concerns for the city when writing the ordinance and challenges to defend against if it passes, he added.
http://dailybruin.com/2019/10/02/ord...weapons-in-la/

See also https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2019/1...-wide-gun-ban/
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You would think, given Benitez's opinion on the magazine confiscation matter, that they would be smarter than to try to dispossess people of their legal property.

Never underestimate the inability of the left to form a cogent logical thought, nor double down on stupid.
Why would you think that?
Idiots like Koretz don't have to pay for the lawsuits their BS engenders.
If we could find a way to stick guys like him personally for the bill of the lawsuit, you'd this crap and nonsense dry up in 15 minutes.
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couldn't constituents find a way to sue him for endangering their lives and property based on his actions? Surely if a large number of lawsuits were filed and log jammed the court system and liens were placed on his property and salary it would make others think twice about jumping on his band wagon. There has to be something the public can do.
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I would suggest leaving Los Angeles county for personal/family safety issues alone!

It wasn't hyperbole when I said street gangs will be converted to be the gun consfication enforcers !

They are already laying the groundwork !

1st LA and SF label you a terrorist for belonging to the NRA, next pass a law outlawing what they call AWs , next send in the street gangs to collect their booty -- whatever you possess, not limited to material goods !

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/...tives-are-not/
It is that very alleged activity that has led the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to launch a probe into multiple gangs hidden within the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.

The Banditos, Spartans, Regulators, and Reapers are literal gangs that are claimed to exist within the Los Angeles law enforcement agency. The investigation started after allegations of abuse by the Banditos in March.

All members of the Banditos have tattoos of a skeleton wearing a sombrero, bandolier, and pistol. Allegations against these deputies include using gang tactics to recruit young Latino deputies, and punishing those who reject their advances with physical attacks.

Oh yeah gun lovers like the FBI Comey, Struck Stoke and dozen of others will investigate LAs hiring of gang enforcers, sure they will !
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How do these people get elected to public office? Does this guy look capable of making rules for everybody else to follow?

He looks capable for storing nuts in his cheeks.
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^^^ Ja308 don't forget about the Lynwood Vikings.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynwood_Vikings

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^^^ Ja308 don't forget about the Lynwood Vikings.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynwood_Vikings
Right and lets add our "friends" at Netflix who produced a movie about time travel killing conservatives to stop all wars or some garbage.

Movie is Shadow of the moon !
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-09-...-patriots.html

"New Netflix movie fantasizes about time-traveling liberals carrying out the “pre-crime” murder of patriots to prevent an American uprising against globalism"

FWIW I cancelled Netflix and sent the yearly price of the subscription to President Trump !
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Just heard on KFI news L.A. City Council member Paul Koretz introducing a ban on “assault weapons” in the city of Los Angeles that is far more comprehensive than the state ban/restrictions, and invalidates all grandfathered weapons.
seriously when will these politicians that are sworn to upheld the constitution get to be arrested?

I am not into AK/AR, but this going against their oath of office and swearing in!
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With no controlling federal legal authority, cities and states can do whatever they want. And they do.

Welcome to Anarchy America.
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Scouring the interwebs and can't find a source for the text. No doubt he cut and pasted the same language as the fed bills about banning the FRS-15. Gotta get the lawyers primed!!

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^^^ Ja308 don't forget about the Lynwood Vikings.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynwood_Vikings
Among others. From the LA Times:
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...711-story.html
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"The altercation started when four Banditos began harassing a rookie, according to the claim. Two other deputies said they intervened; one was struck repeatedly in the face, while the other was punched and kicked multiple times before being choked and losing consciousness, the claim says.

RELATED: Secret societies at the Sheriff’s Department cost taxpayers millions »

The lawmen accused in the claim — Deputies David Silverio, Gregory Rodriguez and Rafael Munoz, and Sgt. Mike Hernandez — were placed on paid administrative leave after the incident. The Sheriff’s Department presented a criminal case involving the four men to the district attorney’s office on June 19."


Thanx for the information on how LA county sheriffs apply the law !

LA County is a dangerous place! NoCCWs, gangs, prisoners released and a Sherriff dept completely lacking in honor.
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I'm still looking for the text of the proposed ordinance. Does LA City Council not make them public or are they buried deep on the website??

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I'm still looking for the text of the proposed ordinance. Does LA City Council not make them public or are they buried deep on the website??

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Many would consider it “buried” in the City Clerk’s world....

There is no text for the ordinance, as there is no ordinance. It/s also not a Resolution by the Board.

It’s a motion to the Board.
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I THEREFORE MOVE that the City Attorney be requested to prepare and present an ordinance to prohibit the possession of assault weapons within the City of Los Angeles.
The motion was seconded and apparently passed, moving the issue to the City’s Public Safety Committee for review. See: Council File: 19-0883.
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Yeah, Smith & Wesson's resolution calls on Congress to ban semi autos nation wide.
Smith and Wesson’s document is a Resolution which seeks to establish a legislative policy seeking to ban AWs, and hate speech on social media. It has been referred to the Council’s Committee on Rules, Elections, and Intergovernmental Relations, and See: Council File: 19-0002-S150.
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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, with the concurrence of the Mayor, that by adoption of this Resolution, the City of Los Angeles hereby includes in its 2019-2020 Federal and State Legislative Programs SUPPORT for and/or SPONSORSHIP of legislation that would ban the sale, possession or use of any assault weapon as well as the sale, possession, or use of any modification kit that would effectively turn a semi-automatic weapon into an automatic one as well as a national policy which requires a background check for ammunition purchases; and
NOW, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, with the concurrence of the Mayor, that by adoption of this Resolution, the City of Los Angeles hereby includes in its 2019-2020 Federal and State Legislative Programs SUPPORT for and/or SPONSORSHiP of legislation that would establish minimum standards for online social networks that would require the administrators of the network to remove and/or block any hate speech and/or violent content that may be accessible via their networks.
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You all act surprised and it cracks me up.

THEY HATE US AND WANT US DEAD + ERASED.



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he needs to ban pudding cups and raviolis
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any chance of denying this overstuffed human pig the right to feed at the largest welfare trough in the world namely the federal budget. why not start a campaign to cut all federal aid to Los Angeles in all area and the freeloaders including this fool will bail out and run elsewhere. Put heat on the feds to cut off any and all funding to SF and LA. That will give the democrats something to fight among themselves over. How about internet news of the requests being sent to pelosi? you need to start harassing back.
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Californians thought Newsom would change things statewide.. He hasn't. LA considering a change is not surpising to me. Newsom not yet sticking it to CA DOES surprise me..
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Californians thought Newsom would change things statewide.. He hasn't. LA considering a change is not surpising to me. Newsom not yet sticking it to CA DOES surprise me..
I believe the only reason for this is the current makeup of the supreme court. Just a guess.
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RAW owners are THE MOST vetted civilians in the entire state. We had to go through literal months of waiting, all to register and be above the board, only for them .. NOT EVEN A YEAR LATER.. to move the goal posts.
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RAW owners are THE MOST vetted civilians in the entire state. We had to go through literal months of waiting, all to register and be above the board, only for them .. NOT EVEN A YEAR LATER.. to move the goal posts.
The goal posts haven’t been moved. There is one (1) DB on the LA City Council who has raised the issue for consideration...it’s got along way to go.
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Koresh (RIP) had more credibility than Koretz
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Just heard on KFI news L.A. City Council member Paul Koretz introducing a ban on “assault weapons” in the city of Los Angeles that is far more comprehensive than the state ban/restrictions, and invalidates all grandfathered weapons.
Can the city of LA preempt state law?
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RAW owners are THE MOST vetted civilians in the entire state. We had to go through literal months of waiting, all to register and be above the board, only for them .. NOT EVEN A YEAR LATER.. to move the goal posts.
Why comply and register them? Once registered, the next round of gun control that may ban them completely is easier to implement as they know where to pick them up if you refuse to turn them in.

DC did the same thing years ago. Registration with a promise it was not confiscation, followed by actual confiscation.
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So who is going to tell all the gang members and felons?
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Closed this one - let's use the other thread, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1565740

In this case, too confusing to merge the two.
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- Thomas Sowell
I've been saying that for years ...

There is no value at all complaining or analyzing or reading tea leaves to decide what these bills really mean or actually do; any bill with a chance to pass will be bad for gun owners.

The details only count after the Governor signs the bills.


Gregg Easterbrook’s “Law of Doomsaying”: Predict catastrophe no later than ten years hence but no sooner than five years away — soon enough to terrify people but distant enough that they will not remember that you were wrong.


Not a lawyer, just Some Guy On The Interwebs.


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