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Imperial
How may I apply for a concealed weapons permit?
Applications for concealed weapon permit can be obtained and are processed at the Imperial County Sheriff’s Office Records Unit. For information on requirements please go to the FORM section and click on ICSO CCW Requirements. Questions may be directed to (760) 339 6345. From: http://www.icso.org/records/records-faq/
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Let's kick this pig!!!
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"Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool that follows him?"-Obi Wan Kenobi the question here is not whether the carrying of arms is a good idea—the question is whether carrying arms is constitutionally protected. Objective standards and due process—not Defendants’ philosophy or personal beliefs about the value of this activity—must carry the day-Alan Gura |
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Do you currently live in Imperial County? Did you volunteer already?
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No. I live in Yuma, AZ which neighbors Imperial county. I work most of the time in Imperial county and reside part time in San Diego county though. Yes, I volunteered.
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"Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool that follows him?"-Obi Wan Kenobi the question here is not whether the carrying of arms is a good idea—the question is whether carrying arms is constitutionally protected. Objective standards and due process—not Defendants’ philosophy or personal beliefs about the value of this activity—must carry the day-Alan Gura |
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Imperial County CCW Packet updated to include:
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So I am going to be moving to El Centro/Brawley area and was wondering if I have any better chance of getting a CCW there than in San Diego. I am thinking not after reading the info available for imperial county requiring 3 character ref. letters and psych testing. I though both of those requirements were illegal.
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Just went to the SO's website and looks like no mention of CCWs....
http://www.icso.org/ Sheriff Loera must think we're still in the 1990s.
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Maybe this has something to do with it (emphasis in original): 2. The Applicant shall submit three (3) letters of reference: One (1) CHARACTER REFERENCE LETTER; from an active peace officer, (must be an active California peace officer such as, California Highway Patrol, Sheriff’s Deputy, Police Officer, or Fish & Game Warden – who lives and works within the Imperial County) and Two (2) CHARACTER REFERENCE LETTERS from individuals, other than relatives, who live in the Imperial County *** THE FOLLOWING CANNOT WRITE THE PEACE OFFICER REFERENCE LETTER *** U.S. Custom, U.S. Border Patrol, Department of Corrections / Prisons and, of course (emphasis in original): 7. IMPORTANT INFORMATION – Interview process You will be required to provide just cause and meet the necessary prerequisites as described on the CCW application, before your application can be considered. Upon completion of your first interview your application will be forwarded to the Sheriff for his final decision.
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 07-09-2015 at 8:00 PM.. |
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Paladin, you reply is very useful.
But at the end of the day, most people in the valley cannot get a letter from a LEO and constitute and good cause to satisfy the sheriffs dept. There are so may hoops of fire to jump through. Oh how i envy Arizona. |
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For the vast majority of us with anti sheriffs, our only hope is replacing the sheriff or Peruta or another Carry Case.
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I was looking at the SO's website. Under "Forms" then "Records Forms" they've got info re. CCW Initial Requirements, CCW License Application (the standard state DOJ app) and info re. CCW Renewal Update on their website: http://www.icso.org/section/FORMS
If you look at the Initial Apps 3 page info document, it says: Quote:
There is a DOJ fee of $93 that you pay if your GC passes muster. Plus, you then have to pay for training ($140 to $200, depending upon approved instructor). But it looks like it is pretty cheap to apply and get denied. If you know a CA LEO who lives and works in Imperial Co, give it a shot and let us know how it goes.
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 09-16-2018 at 12:17 PM.. |
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ANYONE apply and get denied or issued an Imperial Co Sheriff Office CCW???
ANYONE apply and get denied or issued an Imperial Co Sheriff Office CCW???
If so, please make a post about your experience, including a rough idea of your Good Cause statement (but not so much info as to identify yourself). We are painfully lacking info on their GC policy and issuance practice. Thx! ETA: I'm one of the guys involved with making the CA CCW GC map
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FWIW Loera won re-election w/100% of the vote in June.
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According to this recent news article, Imperial Co has 132 CCWs and a pop. of ~190,000
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local...232198382.html
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For those thinking about applying, below is the latest revision of my breakdown of the meaning of the Dark Red, Light Red and Yellow categories. If you do apply, be sure to let us know, via a post, or at least me, via a PM, how it went and any insights you can share.
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Going by the examples immediately above, has anyone been issued an Imperial SO CCW for Yellow Good Causes (8, 9, 10, 11 or 12)?
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(I’m copying and modifying below the post I made re Santa Barbara Co SO just to save time & effort.)
I spoke with Chief Detective Benavidez (via Records at 442-265-2125), the LEO who handles CCWs for the sheriff. Not wanting to take too much of his time, I ran by him four general categories of GC: (1) Dark Red: personal threats or attacks supported by police reports (and restraining orders if BG known). (2) Light Red: business ownership or professional risks (e.g., regular large cash deposits or carrying valuables (e.g., gold, silver, jewelry), on the job). (3) Yellow: employment risks: pretty much the same as #2 but for employees rather than business owners. (4) Light Green: recreational risks such as recreational activities in rural or wilderness areas with spotty cell phone coverage and long LE response times. He said they’d issue for Dark Red, Light Red and Yellow. He said they may even issue for Light Green, recreational risks, depending upon how well you articulate the risk and the evidence you have to prove the risk. So, based upon this I’m recommending Imperial Co be changed to Yellow the CA CCW GC map. That does NOT mean if you have a Dark Red, Light Red or Yellow you will automatically be issued: GMC, LiveScan, background check and interview all still matter. But it does mean if you have a GC that falls in those three colors (see post #31 at: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1482924) applying is worth trying if you want a CCW and you have solid proof. At Light Green you’re swimming upstream but even you have a chance if you make a good case for getting issued. If you’re on the fence about applying I recommend calling the detective and running your GC by him. But first have your GC and proof/evidence fleshed out and organized like you were applying so that you can readily answer his questions without trying to remember details while on the phone. He was polite and professional but don’t waste LEOs’ time. ETA: No, I don’t live in Imperial Co.
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 02-17-2021 at 9:36 AM.. |
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Less than 11 months until the next sheriffs’ election! (early June 2022) If he hasn’t already, he’ll probably decide soon if he’s running again because he should lock-in endorsements of local and state politicians early.
Let us know if you hear about any challengers and their positions on CCWs.
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In case some of you would rather wait for the courts than fight at the local level you may be waiting for years more… see https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...6#post26268406
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There have been several cases of rideshare drivers and many cases of food delivery drivers using CCWs to save their lives. If you do that work and live in a Light Red or Yellow county you may want to print out news articles about such attacks (ones with and without CCWing drivers), to prove elevated GC.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/philadelp...162744266.html
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Would being legally disabled (I have the paper work) be grounds for a GC? I also work security at a bar and saw a man being stabbed with a straight screwdriver and the dude got away. I was recently Deposed on that stabbing and was wondering if that’s grounds for justifiable GC. Thank you.
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You're disabled to the point of needing a gun for self defense yet you’re employed as a bouncer? Being disabled by itself? Probably not. BUT we have very little data to go off of for Imperial county. Working as a bouncer in a bar: that brings up issue of carrying in an establishment that primarily serves alcohol. But if that’s your workplace and you’re not drinking… I can’t recall the law on that fact pattern. Contact the sheriffs office (or read carefully the CCW info on their website) and ask how much you have to pay for “a Good Cause decision”. If you can afford to lose that much money, go for it. If not, wait for a SCOTUS decision in a major gun carry case that should be decided sometime before Independence Day. Plz delete the other thread you started by selecting Edit, then select Advanced, then Delete and the bubble to confirm you want to delete it.
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Writing separately, to note that the Imperial County Sheriff has moved to CCW applications through Permitum, like some other counties. The link is https://imperialca.permitium.com/ccw/start
Paper applications at the Sheriff's office are no longer accepted. It's online through Permitium, which started in November or December of last year, I can't remember when exactly. There also were a few technical hiccups when it launched, because it was a copy and paste of Shasta's Permitium site and some things didn't work. When an application is submitted online, the last step will be scheduling an interview. It looks like interview spots are available now roughly two weeks out. The three reference letters, including one from a local law enforcement officer, are still required. |
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