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You are so wrong. So very wrong. SMH
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Not wrong at all. If you claim to be an exception, you don't negate the rule. MOST people on calguns bloviating about "Well, NOW I won't ever give them money" every time there is an issue admit they never did give any money, they are just mining facts to support what they were already doing.
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https://i.imgur.com/rZTdNOV.png As a free history lesson, open carry was killed in 2011-2013 by Jerry Brown, Portantino, and CA legislators with (D) after their names, but hey, many gun owners who's mouthfoaming at the NRA were probably 12 back then so they don't really remember that you could open carry handguns in California just ten years ago. |
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It is because they are jealous, envious and especially because they resent the success NRA has at holding back the international forces who have targeted our beloved bill of rights. Its unlikely any of these would part with 35 bucks for anything that fights for American liberty . Ive have suggested to lots of people who are not NRA members and so far recruited 5 who are an asset to liberty. 1 in 50 will bring up WLP as a reason for not joining . I tell each one to NOT join, because having ignorant, easily led people as members will hurt us more than help. BBTA Last edited by ja308; 06-10-2021 at 1:00 PM.. |
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Again, READING IS FUNDEMENTAL....LMAO. You are an attorney? Really? Western States??? Quote:
I think we can all safety assume all your leftist, anti NRA drivel is based on the same reading and comprehension skills... LMAO.
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When I see people parrot enemies to RKBA exactly like the sleazy New York media, I will no longer engage, but find the ignore feature most effective. Good bye CAL.BAR Last edited by ja308; 06-10-2021 at 6:42 PM.. |
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This will make Diane Feinstein extremely happy.
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[2] ... Another leftist Bloomturd acolyte. Choose ONE. Because all these anti NRA shills are using the internet to promote leftist agendas. They can't in any way claim that Mom doesn't have WiFi in the basement. Hence their ignorance is either self imposed, or intentionally deceitful. |
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Don't worry, I donated enough to the NRA to cover what your membership would cost.
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"I have a love interest in every one of my films - a gun." - Arnold Schwarzenegger Last edited by Two Shots; 06-10-2021 at 4:14 PM.. |
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The CGSSF website "About Us" page misquotes the 2nd Amendment and should be corrected. That missing first comma is important. Aside from being inaccurate, omitting it gives credence to an assertion of the 2nd as a collective right.
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GOA Member & SAF Life Member Last edited by dfletcher; 06-10-2021 at 10:53 PM.. |
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NRA spent about $35M getting Donald Trump elected in 2016. He got three new Justices to the Supreme Court. SCOTUS is likely the only place we will win this. Then you can return and ask the question again. Or not. BTW, here's a link to FPC - https://secure.anedot.com/cagunright...ne10hk45miller Just responded to an e-mail by donating again. I presume you and everyone else posting about how poorly NRA performs will ante up to help us in state, yes?
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GOA Member & SAF Life Member Last edited by dfletcher; 06-10-2021 at 6:13 PM.. |
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I too am the NRA
since about 1968. I was about 10, Dad wouldn't take me hunting until I saved enough to join.
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Only slaves don't need guns We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls. What doesn't kill me, better run |
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Bingo. The NRA is like the Center in a Offensive line. He takes all the hits and keeps the quarterback and running backs safe from the defense. Leftists are so focused on the NRA, most have never heard of even the GOA or CRPA, etc.
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So are you a member of the NRA? CRPA? You didn't really give a straight answer and I'm reading your response as an evasion.
Yes. I am a member of the NRA & CRPA, although not GOA.
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From your linked article: The house-purchase deal never happened, but conflicting explanations from the NRA and its former ad agency for the aborted transaction have renewed the focus on Mr. LaPierre’s financial dealings with the agency, Ackerman McQueen Inc. So, the house purchase never happened and the rest is just a media drivel, it doesn't say who is doing the focusing (my guess would be CNN, AP, Huffpo and other left wing media).
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You obviously do not. But you then say they are facts, when they are just your empty implication - which IS based on libel and slander, and your attempts to propagate the same ARE toeing the line of defamation. If you actually traverse further beyond the propaganda, and read up on those involved with that yacht charter, you'll learn the same. But you don't want to. Because you have an agenda. What's odd, is that you go a step further, and devoid of fact, sidle up and hold dear anti-2nd Amendment ACTIVIST Attorney General Letitia James as a your paragon of virtue, who's sludge-slinging NeoSocialist oppression-fest was solely lobbed just months before the Presidential election in hopes of silencing the NRA, which sought to caused chaos, dissension, and bad publicity to prevent the NRA from providing full views of opposing positions to the majority of the media's lop-sided and biased socialist agenda to push Biden/Harris into office. Anyone could see that; to ignore that fact, says quite a lot about you. You should stop making inferences that hold no clout especially when you're basing them on mere hearsay, wild accusation, alleged nonsense, and reconsider the ridiculous source of your position. The suit, yacht, and mansion defamation has been proven false, and for you to keep peddling that absurdity makes you looks like a discordant despot coming here not as a gun owner, but as an outright screeching Anti-2nd Amendment shill.
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Why would that make that old **** happy?
Not like the NRA has done anything in CA for years. Name ONE bill they helped us fight and won. I'll wait. |
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I just looked through all my payments to NRA and honestly, I could have bought a few hundred calguns members lifetime memberships when they go on discount at turners. Standard memberships, a couple of thousand. What's your point? |
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Duncan, et al, v. Becerra. This case was filed in May 2017, in response to both a state bill and Proposition 63 which placed a ban on the possession of magazines that have a capacity of more than ten (10) rounds. The lawsuit challenges California's regulatory scheme against standard capacity magazines on the grounds that it violates the Second Amendment, Due Process Clause, and Takings Clause of the United States Constitution. The court granted the plaintiffs' motion for a preliminary injunction on June 29, 2017, issuing an order staying enforcement of the possession ban while the case is being litigated. The State appealed the preliminary injunction order to the Ninth Circuit, but the District Court rejected the State's request to stay the case pending appeal. Briefing of the appeal was completed and oral argument was heard on May 14, 2018. On July 17, 2018, the Ninth Circuit affirmed the temporary injunction order. In the District Court, plaintiffs filed a motion for summary judgment, which was argued on May 10, 2018. On March 29, 2019, the District Court issued a ruling in favor of the plaintiffs and permanently enjoined the California magazine ban. California appealed to the United States Circuit Court for the Ninth Circuit. The case was fully briefed and oral arguments were held on April 2, 2020. On August 14, 2020, a panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, applying the strict scrutiny standard to the ten round magazine ban, affirmed the District Court's grant of summary judgment in favor of the applicants. California sought en banc review. The applicants filed their opposition on September 18, 2020. The parties are awaiting a decision from the Court.
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This is the Demoncrats dream to create fighting amongst the ranks and try to diminish the largest gun lobby in the United States Keep up the great work for the other side and then we will be screaming one day when all our rights have been taken. Don’t throw out the baby with the bath water. If you asked the FPC or any organization if the NRA was still relevant and needed, I guarantee they would say absolutely. Wake up folks! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Not bills, but important nonetheless.
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Where is the NRA??
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Wayne repaid $300,000 for travel, also admitted fault for use of the yacht, and anyone can listen to Wayne’s deposition for themselves. I do not know exactly what the $300k was for, aside from the term “travel” Wayne’s free use of the yacht for years, was a conflict on interest, since the NON profit is not permitted to accept “gifts” from someone the NRA does business with, and to those who dispute this, David McKenzie was/is being paid approximately $1,000,000 per month for media work for the NRA. The NRA has a policy to not accept gifts from people they do biz with, since it could cause them legal jeopardy regarding non profit compliance…. Non profits are public benefit corporations, and subject to rules, like disclosing gifts, or services worth $250 or more in value. Failing to disclose/report these types of free goods/gifts/free rentals, is subject to strict scrutiny and required to disclose on 990 tax disclosure forms. The CFO of the NRA refused to sign off on the 2019 990 form due to irregularities that ethically prevent the CFO from signing off on them. The CFO lost his job soon after. Wayne has not submitted any financial disclosures for 990 submissions and therefore, cannot even be deposed upon them. Back to the yacht… did Wayne feel more threatened by, fallout from the Newtown shooting or the Parkland shooting?? I ask, because there was a four month delay between the Parkland shooting and his nearly annual use of the yacht, Illusions. I truly wish that the NRA survives this fiasco, but no matter how angry folks get upon this forum. The NRA can always defend 2A high ground, but when the NRA leaves an opportunity for a lousy politically motivated AG, that opportunity being the financial disclosures/tax compliance, then perhaps the NRA should have not been a public benefit corporation. I am an S Corp, and I can do what I want, just report it, all of it, to the govt…. Non profits are held to stricter guidelines and this appears to have been the cause the NRA to be in some hot water. It sucks, and we will see how this plays out over the next two years. For everyone, I suggest listening to Wayne under cross examination in the Northern District of Texas Bankruptcy hearing… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by 32spoke; 06-11-2021 at 8:57 PM.. |
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David and Wayne are friends. I invite my friends out on my boat for fun, whether I have business with them or not; it's as simple as that. God forbid I should ever have them over my house for dinner! But those prone to conjure hysteria will do all they can to conflate the issue, to call smoke where there is no fire, not even a Bic lighter - for self-serving purposes. So while the yacht issue is not even as you are assuming above, I DO agree with you on your points, that with the NRA knowing they would be subject to scrutiny by their adversaries, every such t should have been crossed and every i dotted. They should have practiced better self-awareness that some such opportunist would crash into their books with a scalpel, solely for vindictive purpose. You are absolutely correct on that, as they did seem to get a bit too cavalier in their tabulating, even sloppy, akin to what a privately held "for profit" company may have as a luxury. The machine was running so well they overlooked changing the oil at regularly prescribed intervals. Yet, the NRA was targeted in this same manner back in the 1980's and 1990's, in much the same way, and after an exhaustive review, no elements of bad faith or innapropriate use of funds was found at that time either. Should they have been more documenting of that in the advent of those times past - a big yes - but do I believe anything of substance resembling criminal use of funds will arise out of this? No, I do not - but that was never the point. The goal was always, snd still is, to hinder and undermine the NRA leading up to the election, and now has devolved merely into wanting to destroy the most prominent and effective 2nd Amendment rights organization on the planet going forward. James has voiced as much in her own words. She's in the pilot seat to do exactly what people like Harvey Weinstein always pined to do, but couldn't, and he certainly ran out of time, power, and money before he could.
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If the NRA survives this, I hope it helps sunset the career of James. Her office can’t be truly protecting her state, when she is tasking so many people/resources for going after the NRA. She truly maybe doing this for a party of one, Soros
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For what it's worth though - what good is open carry if it has to be unloaded? Sucks that you can't at all anymore but I really hope the recent wave of gun rights will get pushed in a more popular political direction. In my own experience, bringing the conversation towards race actually gets anti gunners on our side par 2A issues sometimes. |
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What leftist agenda am I promoting? I head a Facebook group related in no way guns, and guess what the first thing hundreds of people see is. Anti gun control pic. I have talked to most people I know about gun control and its adverse affects. I have even convinced a few anti gunners to not be so adverse to citizens owning weapons. Don't worry - I puked at the Bloomberg and Newsome ads, signed the petition to recall him, but I cannot look at WLP's 300K he had to give back, and think "yeah, I want to give them money" when he is in the seat. Not everyone who dislikes the current NRA is a leftist shill/man child in a basement. I used to pay them my dues. |
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Huh, didn't realize you had to give an org money to criticize them. You had better start giving the dems money, to stay logically consistent. |
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Recruited 3 new NRA members over this past weekend!
Its great to associate with people who reject the New York, democrat party, partisan attacks on our underpaid EVP WLP. Friends keep up the good work, promoting, recruiting and encouraging new members . Lets not forget WLP got us to over 5 million members and is a formidable force for our gun rights. As for cheapskates who have never had success in any of life endeavors and resent achievers. You are not needed or even wanted. Comeonman pull up a chair ,pour a drink to watch multimillionaire adults play a kids game's. The media attacking our NRA encourages this ! |
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https://www.instagram.com/nra/
Notice that there's only 1 post about the pistol brace change and no instructions on how or where to post your comments to the ATF. NRA is far behind. |
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Well, what good is fighting if you lay down whenever they take something small? Isn't a fight which should be easy to win be a good litmus test? I mean, it's not like there aren't people who actually need to use a brace to use a firearm due to real medical reasons. That alone should stop the brace ban in it's tracks.
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Smh at all the brace owners who thought the SBR loophole (and yes, they all knowingly bought these as a work around the existing law) would never be addressed. Pistol braces will be moot if the Democrats are able to outlaw semi automatic rifles...
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"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin NRA life member CRPA member |
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