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Old 02-16-2020, 11:02 AM
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I am truly asking this for a friend. He has a nephew that lives in Reno, and has a Ruger Mk4 pistol that he whats to sell to my friend that lives here in SoCal, what has to happen to do this deal? I thank you for any information that I can pass on!
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Old 02-16-2020, 11:20 AM
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Can’t do it. Not legal

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Old 02-16-2020, 11:38 AM
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The nephew moves to Ca, then the two Ca residents can do a PPT. Or your friend can move to Nevada, and buy it from his nephew.
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How is that possible? People buy used, off roster hand guns all the time.
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How is that possible? People buy used, off roster hand guns all the time.
When both parties are residents of the same state
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:24 PM
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I am truly asking this for a friend. He has a nephew that lives in Reno, and has a Ruger Mk4 pistol that he whats to sell to my friend that lives here in SoCal, what has to happen to do this deal? I thank you for any information that I can pass on!
Intra-family out-of-state transfers only apply to direct bloodline so it has to be his mother/father or his son/daughter that he is getting the gun from.
You can NOT do an intra-family out-of-state transfer with a brother/sister, aunt/uncle, cousin/niece/nephew or grandfather/grandmother.
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:52 PM
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When both parties are residents of the same state
I may be missing something, but I see off roster guns being sold all the time in California. At least I think so.
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there is the government legal answer and then there is the way we do things in real life. do you tell the government everything? Are you that brain washed? Good lord officer I have owned this gun for so long I am not sure i can even remember who I bought it from but maybe i have a bill of sale round here. Oops my wife must have thrown it out.
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I may be missing something, but I see off roster guns being sold all the time in California. At least I think so.
Yes, it is common and legal, when both parties are California residents. The scenario mentioned in op is NV resident selling to CA resident. That scenario would not be legal.
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Got it. Thanks!
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there is the government legal answer and then there is the way we do things in real life. ....
Well there are law abiding people and there are criminals. There are a great many people who, in real life, follow the law; and that's what makes them law abiding. Then there are people who, in real life, don't follow the law; and that's what makes them criminals.
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there is the government legal answer and then there is the way we do things in real life. do you tell the government everything? Are you that brain washed? Good lord officer I have owned this gun for so long I am not sure i can even remember who I bought it from but maybe i have a bill of sale round here. Oops my wife must have thrown it out.
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if you are correct fiddletown then no Nazi was guilty of anything and the trials were wrong. How about Stalin and Mao? And then we come to california where laws are decided by a government run by lawyers and not the people because we are representative. how many laws would be defeated if voted on by the whole public especially on the second amendment. How many laws would be passed if individual politicians had to bear the financial loss for laws overturned or defeated in appeals or defeated in the ballot box? are there criminals out there who have decided to ignore the law? yes an that does not make them necessarily wrong except in your eyes while you try to keep the status quo.
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I may be missing something, but I see off roster guns being sold all the time in California. At least I think so.
By CA residents.
When both the buyer and seller are residents, the gun can transfer as a private party transfer through an FFL dealer.
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Well there are law abiding people and there are criminals. There are a great many people who, in real life, follow the law; and that's what makes them law abiding. Then there are people who, in real life, don't follow the law; and that's what makes them criminals.
And that includes the 90 to 95% of those with "assault" weapons who didn't register them in the last two open registration periods...and that per the California DOJ.

There are plenty of gun owners in California who are "criminals" for avoiding licensees when it comes to gun transfers.
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Well there are law abiding people and there are criminals. There are a great many people who, in real life, follow the law; and that's what makes them law abiding. Then there are people who, in real life, don't follow the law; and that's what makes them criminals.
There is not a person alive today in the United States who has not broken at least one law. Everyone is a criminal.

There are people who break "big" laws and there are people who break "little" laws. There are people who break laws knowingly and there are people who break laws unknowingly. There are people who break laws frequently and those who break them infrequently. But there is no such thing as a "law abiding" citizen.

Don't believe me? Then recite every single law on the books. You can't can you? That's because there are too many. Even if you could, you would not understand most of them. It is literally impossible to follow the law. Even a lawyer cannot know/understand all the laws. You are probably breaking the law right now in some way you don't realize.
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Intra-family out-of-state transfers only apply to direct bloodline so it has to be his mother/father or his son/daughter that he is getting the gun from.
You can NOT do an intra-family out-of-state transfer with a brother/sister, aunt/uncle, cousin/niece/nephew or grandfather/grandmother.
Is no Grandparents to grandchild a recent change? I've been looking in this excellent thread maintained by Librarian http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1179771 but can't find where grandparents are no longer allowed to transfer to their grandchildren, or vice versa.
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Old 02-16-2020, 7:19 PM
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Is no Grandparents to grandchild a recent change? I've been looking in this excellent thread maintained by Librarian http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1179771 but can't find where grandparents are no longer allowed to transfer to their grandchildren, or vice versa.
Don't know for sure but I always understood it to be 1 generation direct bloodline.
Grandparents traditionally give to parents and then parents give to children.
I don't know if you can bypass the generation and do it directly as well.
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if you are correct fiddletown then no Nazi was guilty of anything and the trials were wrong. How about Stalin and Mao? And then we come to california where laws are decided by a government run by lawyers and not the people because we are representative. how many laws would be defeated if voted on by the whole public especially on the second amendment. How many laws would be passed if individual politicians had to bear the financial loss for laws overturned or defeated in appeals or defeated in the ballot box? are there criminals out there who have decided to ignore the law? yes an that does not make them necessarily wrong except in your eyes while you try to keep the status quo.
A load of gibberish. Youíre simply rationalizing your suggestion that itís okay to violate the law.
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