West Covina Residents

[Lady Ruger]

West Covina Police

The West Covina Police Department is now accepting
Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW) applications for West Covina residents.
For more information and to apply, visit the website (http://wcpd.org/ccw/)

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[HDRoadGlide]

Looks like West Covina requires a psych evaluation.

[gobler]

Originally Posted by HDRoadGlide

Looks like West Covina requires a psych evaluation.

I may challenge that. I would think it violates Bruen

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[gobler]

Man, W.C. made it a bare bone permit with major hoops. 2 year, 2 handguns, mental health evaluation.. about $700/2 years with hoops, to exercise my Right? IDK??

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[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by gobler

I may challenge that. I would think it violates Bruen

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Good luck with that. I don't think Bruen applies to anything other than good cause.

[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by gobler

Man, W.C. made it a bare bone permit with major hoops. 2 year, 2 handguns, mental health evaluation.. about $700/2 years with hoops, to exercise my Right? IDK??

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Two years is set by the State not the IA.

[gobler]

Originally Posted by Lady Ruger

Two years is set by the State not the IA.

Didn't know that. Well, then a challenge on fees needs to be brought. Should not be required to pay for a right.

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[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by gobler

Didn't know that. Well, then a challenge on fees needs to be brought. Should not be required to pay for a right.

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There have been fee's for ages. Don't you think someone would have challenged it already?
CA isn't the only State that has CCW fee's.

[gobler]

Originally Posted by Lady Ruger

There have been fee's for ages. Don't you think someone would have challenged it already?

CA isn't the only State that has CCW fee's.

True but when the average is closer to $100 total, Ca is closer to $800. Even SCOTUS mentioned reasonable fees..

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[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by gobler

True but when the average is closer to $100 total, Ca is closer to $800. Even SCOTUS mentioned reasonable fees..

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I don't know how to came to an average of $800.
San Bernardino County is $397. Far from $800.

[gobler]

Originally Posted by Lady Ruger

I don't know how to came to an average of $800.

San Bernardino County is $397. Far from $800.

This includes CCW classroom/range test and psyc evaluation fees?

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[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by gobler

This includes CCW classroom/range test and psyc evaluation fees?

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That is the TOTAL fees for San Bernardino.
They do not require a psyc evaluation for everyone.

https://wp.sbcounty.gov/sheriff/wp-c...s-81522-v7.pdf

[gobler]

Originally Posted by Lady Ruger

That is the TOTAL fees for San Bernardino.

They do not require a psyc evaluation for everyone.



https://wp.sbcounty.gov/sheriff/wp-c...s-81522-v7.pdf

I know West Covina is requiring one.. it's going to cost an additional $150..

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[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by gobler

I know West Covina is requiring one.. it's going to cost an additional $150..

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Again not all IA'S require it.

[gobler]

So, been discussing this with my wife. We're both going to apply at the same time. We're also in contact with FPC & GOA. Going to contact CRPA as well. We plan on filling a lawsuit if the city does seek social media history and the psyc evaluation. Those are a no go under Bruen.

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[gobler]

Here is the fee breakdown for West Covina. LaVerne has the same fee structure and CRPA just sent a letter to them. I forwarded them West Covina as I mentioned.

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[pacrat]

Originally Posted by gobler

I may challenge that. I would think it violates Bruen

It does under the criteria of "THT" established by NRSRPA v Bruen

Originally Posted by Lady Ruger

Good luck with that. I don't think Bruen applies to anything other than good cause.

Bruen also set the "THT" precedent for ALL 2A litigation.

Originally Posted by Lady Ruger

There have been fee's for ages. Don't you think someone would have challenged it already?
CA isn't the only State that has CCW fee's.

Lots of unconstitutional things infringed on 2A "for ages" prior to Bruen. Now, with "THT" precedent, those previous infringements will be litigated. Which also gives "standing" to every citizen.

Originally Posted by gobler

So, been discussing this with my wife. We're both going to apply at the same time. We're also in contact with FPC & GOA. Going to contact CRPA as well. We plan on filling a lawsuit if the city does seek social media history and the psyc evaluation. Those are a no go under Bruen.

Hopefully you can get at least one of those orgs to take up your cause for the benefit of all citizens 2A rights.

As of now the majority of funds, and billable hours, is being expended on bigger bites of the 2A apple.

[gobler]

Originally Posted by pacrat

It does under the criteria of "THT" established by NRSRPA v Bruen







Bruen also set the "THT" precedent for ALL 2A litigation.







Lots of unconstitutional things infringed on 2A "for ages" prior to Bruen. Now, with "THT" precedent, those previous infringements will be litigated. Which also gives "standing" to every citizen.







Hopefully you can get at least one of those orgs to take up your cause for the benefit of all citizens 2A rights.



As of now the majority of funds, and billable hours, is being expended on bigger bites of the 2A apple.

I received a response from the CRPA attorney who is going after LaVerne. He's going to look into West Covina next.

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[gobler]

I'm hoping a lawsuit is in the near future.


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[pacrat]

Mr Moros has a valid point IMHO,

$398 into the pocket of a vendor.

I have serious doubts if that is even remotely legal.

In 1924, Ca state Gov placed the responsibility of CCW issuance on LEAs.

Making it THEIR DAMN JOB. Which every taxpayer in Ca already grossly overpays them for doing. Then they contract away their responsibility. And DOUBLE DIP CHARGE citizens for doing it.

We as citizens need to urge all of our 2A orgs to file suit against all of these egregious CCW FEES.

The right to vote is covered by;

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

And again, in the 24thA. But NOT UNTIL 1964.

And POLL TAXES were struck as unconstitutional. [even though the RTV], is not one of the few "ORIGINAL enumerated rights" included in the BoR.

When the 24th Amendment was ratified in 1964, five states still retained a poll tax: Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, Texas and Virginia. The amendment prohibited requiring a poll tax for voters in federal elections. But it was not until 1966 that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6?3 in Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections that poll taxes for any level of elections were unconstitutional. It said these violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Subsequent litigation related to potential discriminatory effects of voter registration requirements has generally been based on application of this clause.

The 2A is definitely an "ENUMERATED RIGHT". And [McDonald v Chicago] incorporated it as covered by the 14thA, as applying to ALL CITIZENS. After a hundred years of "infringements".

[gobler]

Mr. Moros received a response from La Verne. They are going to reexamine the fee structure.. I asked him to press West Covina, Baldwin Park and Clairmont and if he needed a plaintiff, I will be one.

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