Definitive CCW Venue List

[oxzilla]

Ventura fair=red
El Capitan theater=red

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[SamsDX]

Originally Posted by Afterimage

My fear is the f**sticks in Sacramento will read this thread, then ban guns in these areas. California gun owners will adjust to the heat.

We're past the simmering temperature and are heading towards the boiling point.

Don't get me wrong....I became complacent.

In my opinion, the red Xs on this list are far more useful than the green circles, since I know which venues I will need to secure my firearm ahead of time. Besides, it's much more likely for the allowed to become prohibited venues, than the other way around, so those entries are more likely to get outdated. What you said is probably another good reason to make it only into a list of prohibited locations.

[oxzilla]

Santa Barbara zoo, moxi children's museum, San Diego new children's museum all green

This is a great post and would have been very helpful and useful for me when I encountered my reds. Thank you for doing this.

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[bblr]

Six Flags Discovery Kingdom in Vallejo has metal detectors

[SigSauerP226]

Anyone know about Chumash Casino?

[SigSauerP226]

Went to Chumash and carried in the casino and hotel. Took the wife there for Teresa Caputo show and decided to leave it locked up, but they didn't wand or anything at the show, so I could've carried it there to.

[BlackyHouston]

Was G2G at San Diego Zoo
No Mags or Wands at the Gates

[GlockN'Roll]

Originally Posted by SigSauerP226

Went to Chumash and carried in the casino and hotel.
Took the wife there for Teresa Caputo show and decided to leave it locked up, but they didn't wand or anything at the show, so I could've carried it there to.

" If you are carrying a firearm with a permit/license that is valid in the state the reservation is located in that permit/license may not be valid on the Reservation.
They will most likely take the firearm and tell you that you can go to Tribal Court to get it back.
Some say as long as you stay on the state roads through a Reservation you are OK but some Tribes ordinances state you can’t carry a firearm in a vehicle or on the roads on their Reservation.
Tribal Police in most instances work closely with the Local Law Enforcement surrounding the Reservation.
If you are breaking a state firearms law they will most likely hold you and contact the local authorities.

Handgunlaw.us recommends before carrying on any Reservation that you actually talk to those in charge and preferably get something in writing that your permit/license is valid on their reservation.
Otherwise keep it unloaded and secured in your trunk or locked box in the back of a vehicle that does not have a trunk"

https://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/tribal_law_ccw.pdf

[SigSauerP226]

Didn't even cross my mind that the reservations basically have their own laws... I got lucky, lesson learned.

[mej16489]

Originally Posted by SigSauerP226

Didn't even cross my mind that the reservations basically have their own laws... I got lucky, lesson learned.

Reservations in California have agreed to follow State Law via the PL280 agreement

[SigSauerP226]

Gonna have a look at PL280 and look more into carrying. I don't go up there often, but it'd be good to know.

[jaymz]

I know for a fact that firearms have rolled into Sea World very recently on 2 separate occasions. Strollers don’t get checked like they should if they’re serious about keeping firearms out.

[oxzilla]

Levity live comedy club Oxnard= good to go

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[oxzilla]

Getty center has a sign that posts no weapons. There was a bag check but no metal detectors

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[engi]

Should there be a yellow category? Legoland for example is doing bag checks but no metal detectors or wands. (2/16/20)

[Echidin]

Didn’t see it listed, The Living Desert in Palm Springs is g2go

[Skip_Dog]

Originally Posted by mej16489

Reservations in California have agreed to follow State Law via the PL280 agreement

That is a bit misleading.

What it did was take a lot of the Fed jurisdiction away from Reservations and add more from the State (6 of them Ca. is one). It did not remove tribal jurisdiction. The tribe can enforce their laws how they are written and or call the State/local authority. Up to the tribe.

[Ol'Chap]

Originally Posted by oxzilla

Getty center has a sign that posts no weapons. There was a bag check but no metal detectors

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As of 05.28.2021, there are two (airport style) metal detectors.

[NationsMostWanted]

Is monterey aquarium as of 2021 still good?

[Grey_Man]

Originally Posted by NationsMostWanted

Is monterey aquarium as of 2021 still good?

I was there on the 23rd of June, yes.

[JunAristorenas]

Sea World 8/14/21

People has to go thru 10 metal detectors: keys, coins, cellphone in pocket - no problem

Only 1 private security guy with a handheld detector and he's using it to direct people thru...

Cursory inspection of the main bag compartment, side pockets not checked.

Strollers bypass metal detector, underside compartment not checked.

YMMV

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[CessnaDriver]

Question?

What is the definition of a bar for us?

Example... There is an arcade/bar/food location that lets kids in until 10:00PM then it's 21+.

Does that fall under a bar catagory at 10:00PM?

I know that restaurants that have a bar area, you avoid the bar to comply.

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by CessnaDriver

Question?

What is the definition of a bar for us?

Example... There is an arcade/bar/food location that lets kids in until 10:00PM then it's 21+.

Does that fall under a bar catagory at 10:00PM?

I know that restaurants that have a bar area, you avoid the bar to comply.

A rule that seems to work is signage: "No Minors" or "21 and older only", so I would expect your example is indeed a 'bar' at 10 pm.

[paredg2]

Originally Posted by igs

Please reply below which places are G2G and which are not (have metal detectors). First hand experience only!


SoCal
Amusement Parks
Disneyland X
Downtown Disney X
Knott's Berry Farm X
Legoland X
Magic Mountain X
SeaWorld X
Universal Studios X

Attractions
Aquarium of the Pacific O
Discovery Cube O
Los Angeles Zoo O
MOXI Museum O
Pretend City O
San Diego Zoo O
San Diego Safari Park O
Santa Barbara Zoo O
The New Children's Museum O

Fairs
Del Mar Fair X
Orange County Fair X
Pomona Fair X
Ventura County Fair X

Shows
El Capitan Theatre X


NorCal
Amusement Parks
Gilroy Gardens X
Six Flags Discovery Kingdom X

Attractions
Fresno Chaffee Zoo O
Monterey Bay Aquarium O

Vegas
Hotels

Shows
Mandalay Bay - House of Blues X
Mirage - The Beatles LOVE O

Attractions
Discovery Children's Museum O
Grand Canyon Skywalk X
Hoover Dam X

How Angel stadium or Dodgers stadium?


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[Librarian]

Originally Posted by paredg2

How Angel stadium or Dodgers stadium?

All of MLB, NFL, NHL run at least walk-through magnetometers, so all are no-firearrm.

[Kate]

Originally Posted by Librarian

All of MLB, NFL, NHL run at least walk-through magnetometers, so all are no-firearrm.

I was at PetCo Park in San Diego last night (for the longest MLB game in 2 years!), and there was a very thorough bag check and a magnetometer walk through, as Librarian mentions...

Katie

[flyer898]

I do not pay too much attention to walk through metal detectors and wands. When such may become an issue, I carry my titanium cylinder S&W 337 in an ankle holster. Since I have stopped chickening out, I have not been detected.
Before I retired, I worked for a state department that allowed me to CCW while on the job. One day I attended a State Personnel Board meeting. They had a security person (unarmed) wanding people at the entrance. He did not discover my revolver.
I went through a metal detector that missed my revolver just yesterday.
When legally carrying, I am willing to push the issue: I know the law and I am not afraid to cause a disruption.

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by flyer898

I do not pay too much attention to walk through metal detectors and wands. When such may become an issue, I carry my titanium cylinder S&W 337 in an ankle holster. Since I have stopped chickening out, I have not been detected.
Before I retired, I worked for a state department that allowed me to CCW while on the job. One day I attended a State Personnel Board meeting. They had a security person (unarmed) wanding people at the entrance. He did not discover my revolver.
I went through a metal detector that missed my revolver just yesterday.
When legally carrying, I am willing to push the issue: I know the law and I am not afraid to cause a disruption.

Interesting; I had thought the walk-throughs were more sensitive than that.

As to wanding, I've done that; some places don't care about the backup outside the venue, and allow time to do a good job (NFL seems that way). Other times, management will call down to the gates and say 'get them inside, show is about to start' and things get more perfunctory. And of course, there is poor training, and disinterest in the staff and assorted personnel issues.

But unarmed 'security' is theater.

[KINGSFAN IN OC]

Taking my daughter to Hamilton on Monday. Any first hand knowledge or wands of walk thru metal detectors? I know they post no weapons including CCW. We all know that sign means nothing in Ca....

[mej16489]

Originally Posted by KINGSFAN IN OC

Taking my daughter to Hamilton on Monday. Any first hand knowledge or wands of walk thru metal detectors? I know they post no weapons including CCW. We all know that sign means nothing in Ca....

No idea if things have changed since COVID started - in the past they've never had detectors, they do cursory bag searches.

They walk the crowd waiting to get in with working-dogs - no clue what they are looking for. I've carried there for many years...

[KINGSFAN IN OC]

thank you Mej

[jgram318]

The Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum in Yorba Linda is a no go for CCW holders or off duty LEOs. Firearms, pocket knives, pepper spray, tasers, knitting needles, wallet chains, multi-tools and anything else deemed a weapon is prohibited. Only Federal LEOs with credentials that are verified are allowed. There is a sign posted on their doors "18 U.S. Code § 930 - Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities ". Everything and everyone is inspected upon entering to include bags, strollers, purses etc.

[birdman81]

Can I CCW at Lindbergh field , San Diego airport? Picking up family members tonight. Not getting off car. Only picking up in the pickup/ drop off area.

[Kate]

Does anyone know the status of the Palm Springs Air Museum?

I am going there this weekend...

Thanks !

[SharedShots]

So now we are down to creating a list of where its ok and not ok?

Doesn't anyone see where this leads? It leads to the same type of Mother May I threads we see cropping up all the time.

I'm not doubting or calling into question the OPs reason for starting the list but I am pointing out the ramifications it brings along. Who is vetting the list and how do you know the intent or motivation for someone adding to the list. The last thing anyone needs is yet another unknown authority telling you what you can and can't do. Ask yourself - you are going to do or not do something because of some list to which unknown persons can simply add to it and thus limit what you can do? Have none of us learned a thing?

What is the end goal, a list that you keep around or have to check before you head out the door? We are creating fear, hesitation and an almost cowardice in that we're asking what is legal and ok by what is on some list as opposed to recognizing that laws aren't to tell you what you can do but what you cannot legally do.

Start reading history if you never learned it in school, lists were created so that unless some list or sign said it's okay to do you can't do it. That is the opposite of what the country is supposed to be.

Enough of the Mother May I threads, think about it first because they are showing up more and more. Before we know it we'll be asking if its okay to own any gun or do anything without someone else saying it's okay. We are starting to see threads asking the same question over and over even when the OP knows the answer. How many times does Quiet have to repost the very same PC sections when anyone can read the first one found through a simple search and answer the question themselves and then if it isn't clear, discuss the finer points? I bet the relevant PC sections have been reported more times than the Fed has printed dollar bills.

We are becoming the babysitter forum and I'm not talking about the many thoughtful threads where great info is being discussed and knowledge imparted but rather the same threads recycled over and over with slightly different wording as if the intent is to keep things looking fresh while slowly it's becoming more of the same thing all the time. Its like no reads the stickies, the flowcharts but instead are too lazy to find info out for themselves.

Rant over.

[Kate]

Originally Posted by SharedShots

So now we are down to creating a list of where its ok and not ok?

Doesn't anyone see where this leads? It leads to the same type of Mother May I threads we see cropping up all the time.

I'm not doubting or calling into question the OPs reason for starting the list but I am pointing out the ramifications it brings along. Who is vetting the list and how do you know the intent or motivation for someone adding to the list. The last thing anyone needs is yet another unknown authority telling you what you can and can't do. Ask yourself - you are going to do or not do something because of some list to which unknown persons can simply add to it and thus limit what you can do? Have none of us learned a thing?

What is the end goal, a list that you keep around or have to check before you head out the door? We are creating fear, hesitation and an almost cowardice in that we're asking what is legal and ok by what is on some list as opposed to recognizing that laws aren't to tell you what you can do but what you cannot legally do.

Start reading history if you never learned it in school, lists were created so that unless some list or sign said it's okay to do you can't do it. That is the opposite of what the country is supposed to be.

Enough of the Mother May I threads, think about it first because they are showing up more and more. Before we know it we'll be asking if its okay to own any gun or do anything without someone else saying it's okay. We are starting to see threads asking the same question over and over even when the OP knows the answer. How many times does Quiet have to repost the very same PC sections when anyone can read the first one found through a simple search and answer the question themselves and then if it isn't clear, discuss the finer points? I bet the relevant PC sections have been reported more times than the Fed has printed dollar bills.

We are becoming the babysitter forum and I'm not talking about the many thoughtful threads where great info is being discussed and knowledge imparted but rather the same threads recycled over and over with slightly different wording as if the intent is to keep things looking fresh while slowly it's becoming more of the same thing all the time. Its like no reads the stickies, the flowcharts but instead are too lazy to find info out for themselves.

Rant over.

Feel free to feel about it as you wish.

Virtually all the venues we ask about are private property, and have the complete right to regulate what happens on their property. So, perhaps we are not so much asking "May I" as much as we are getting information, ahead of time so that we can each adapt as we see fit -- Do not go to that venue, do not carry, leave the weapon in the car, etc.

And as for asking about the same places over and over? Well, the situation if fairly dynamic, and a venue may have metal detectors in place today that were not there last week.

I just want all the information I can get, so that any decision I make is an informed one.

Katie

[dawgcasa]

Originally Posted by Librarian

All of MLB, NFL, NHL run at least walk-through magnetometers, so all are no-firearrm.

Which I can confirm The Pond in Anaheim is a no-go.

And I did a daytime guided tour of Fenway Park a couple years ago … and forgot I had a pocket knife in my front pocket. The attendant at the magnetometer gave me the Bostonian version of “what part of ‘no weapons’ did you not understand”. Fortunately they stored it for me as a ‘checked’ item given the small group, and I picked it up after the tour. If you actually go to a game at Fenway with ‘something’ you can’t take into the stadium, they won’t ‘check’ it in for you (too many people) … the memorabilia store across the street has lockers that you can rent.

[SharedShots]

Originally Posted by Kate

Feel free to feel about it as you wish.

Virtually all the venues we ask about are private property, and have the complete right to regulate what happens on their property. So, perhaps we are not so much asking "May I" as much as we are getting information, ahead of time so that we can each adapt as we see fit -- Do not go to that venue, do not carry, leave the weapon in the car, etc.

And as for asking about the same places over and over? Well, the situation if fairly dynamic, and a venue may have metal detectors in place today that were not there last week.

I just want all the information I can get, so that any decision I make is an informed one.

Katie

The staunchest gun control groups haven't been able to accomplish what is going on right here - the creation of a list of where you can't go.

Forgetting for a moment what this list represents (you now have people asking if it's okay to go somewhere from people they don't know and anyone is free to add whatever they want to this list), there are serious flaws in what is being done:

1. Who is going to maintain this list?
2. What happens when information is found to be faulty - is someone going to correct this list or does everyone just move on to the next place you can't go?
3. What happens when more and more people just read the list and decide based on it not to go somewhere or modify their behavior based upon it?
4. Where is the vetting to insure that each entry on this list is accurate and not something put there by people with ulterior motives?

You can't see the most basic flaws and the insidious design of this list?

Go ahead, see how this goes and how long it remains anything anyone would want to even bother looking at.

There are how many venues in California and what is the end goal here, to create a go-no go list? Has no one thinking this list is a good idea studied or even learned basic history?

Why fight for the 2nd/A when we have people who are gun owners willing to do things like this? No wonder we've lost so much - so often we act like lemmings. Put out a list no one can say is accurate, let anyone add anything they want for any reason they want and lets see how many people will obey the list.

My goodness, no wonder the left has won so much and we have lost so much more.

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by SharedShots

The staunchest gun control groups haven't been able to accomplish what is going on right here - the creation of a list of where you can't go.

Forgetting for a moment what this list represents (you now have people asking if it's okay to go somewhere from people they don't know and anyone is free to add whatever they want to this list), there are serious flaws in what is being done:

1. Who is going to maintain this list?
2. What happens when information is found to be faulty - is someone going to correct this list or does everyone just move on to the next place you can't go?
3. What happens when more and more people just read the list and decide based on it not to go somewhere or modify their behavior based upon it?
4. Where is the vetting to insure that each entry on this list is accurate and not something put there by people with ulterior motives?

You can't see the most basic flaws and the insidious design of this list?

Go ahead, see how this goes and how long it remains anything anyone would want to even bother looking at.

There are how many venues in California and what is the end goal here, to create a go-no go list? Has no one thinking this list is a good idea studied or even learned basic history?

Why fight for the 2nd/A when we have people who are gun owners willing to do things like this? No wonder we've lost so much - so often we act like lemmings. Put out a list no one can say is accurate, let anyone add anything they want for any reason they want and lets see how many people will obey the list.

My goodness, no wonder the left has won so much and we have lost so much more.

That strikes me as pretty far from the purpose or usage of this thread; I think Kate has it right.

Nothing 'official' here. Believe or disbelieve as you see fit - and come back to confirm or refute based on your experience, if you like.

[micro911]

Originally Posted by NationsMostWanted

Is monterey aquarium as of 2021 still good?

I was there last weekend. No metal detectors, no wand, and not even a bag check.