I just turned in my CCW

[Fjold]

So after 13 years or so, I'm now walking around without a carry gun on me. I formally moved to Kentucky and changed my Driver's License and voter registration so I went to the Kern County Sheriff's Office this morning and turned in my LTC.

Talk about efficient, before my car had left the Sheriff's office driveway I had a received a text message saying that my license status had changed and to check my email.

I got home and had this email in my inbox:

Sep 23, 2022

ORDER NUMBER: C6N2BSQR2

NAME: FXXXXX XXXXXX OXXXXX
ADDRESS:
Bakersfield, California 93314


Your CCW License C6N2BXXXXX has been REVOKED by the Sheriff. Effective immediately, you are no longer authorized to carry a concealed weapon on your person or in a vehicle.

Your CCW license has been revoked for the following reason(s):

Applicant moved to and is now registered in Kentucky. Applicant surrendered California permit.

You must immediately surrender your CCW license to the Kern County Sheriff’s Office at 1350 Norris Road, Bakersfield, CA 93308.

The Sheriff reserves the right to revoke, suspend or deny CCW licenses to any individual under the provisions of California Penal Code § 26195.

[lurchnp81]

Odd that they revoked it right away. When I moved from CA to CO in 2016, I called the Ventura County Sheriffs Office to advise I changed my residency and they gave I think 30 days before end dating the license.

The explanation the Deputy gave me was they give you time to get your affairs in order in case you are traveling back and forth between states. I also didn’t have to surrender the license to VCSO. I guess every IA is different.

[Jeepergeo]

Interesting language. It seems "Voluntarily Surrendered" would fit better than "REVOKED".

The term "revoked" carries connotations that may raise a red flag in the future and need to be explained.

Good luck on the move. There is a lot of beautiful country back there.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by Jeepergeo

Interesting language. It seems "Voluntarily Surrendered" would fit better than "REVOKED".

The term "revoked" carries connotations that may raise a red flag in the future and need to be explained.

Good luck on the move. There is a lot of beautiful country back there.

I agree.

Also, thought they let you keep it valid for 60 days after you notify them so to apply in your new jurisdiction.

[NorCalBusa]

Agreed- that email suggests fergetabout turning it in, just let it expire.

[Sccafire]

At least you moved to a free state.

[BAJ475]

Originally Posted by 9Cal_OC

I agree.

Also, thought they let you keep it valid for 60 days after you notify them so to apply in your new jurisdiction.

Actually 90 days. See Penal Code section 26210. In particular see subdivision (c) which states: "If both of the following conditions are satisfied, a license to carry a concealed handgun may not be revoked solely because the licensee's place of residence has changed to another county:
(1) The licensee has not breached any of the conditions or restrictions set forth in the license.
(2) The licensee has not become prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm."
See also subdivision (d) which states: "Notwithstanding subdivision (c), if a licensee’s place of residence was the basis for issuance of a license, any license issued pursuant to Section 26150 or 26155 shall expire 90 days after the licensee moves from the county of issuance." There is nothing in this section that states that the location moved to must be in California! But you are required to notify your IA within 10 days of moving from it's jurisdiction. (Penal Code § 26210(b).)

[NorCalBusa]

The inference seems that 90 is a reasonable number of days for issuance of a new one. How's that working out California?

[XDJYo]

It is the most efficient part of the CCW process in CA! LOL! They have probably processed thousands of these requests due to people moving out of CA that they are all very familiar with it.

[TrailerparkTrash]

So what was the point of this thread? Telling everyone you moved? Yeaaa

[SilveradoColt21]

Originally Posted by TrailerparkTrash

So what was the point of this thread? Telling everyone you moved? Yeaaa

I think it was to let us know the irony of him getting notified instantly as soon as he left the building whereas to even get that same permit it takes MONTHS OR even a year.

[TrailerparkTrash]

Originally Posted by SilveradoColt21

I think it was to let us know the irony of him getting notified instantly as soon as he left the building whereas to even get that same permit it takes MONTHS OR even a year.

Well it is the “Gubment.” Does anybody still expect anything different from ‘em? It should be no shock as to how they work these days.

[Fjold]

Originally Posted by SilveradoColt21

I think it was to let us know the irony of him getting notified instantly as soon as he left the building whereas to even get that same permit it takes MONTHS OR even a year.

No, it was to tell everyone here that I moved.

No one here knew it because I only posted a dozen times about the 70 acre farm that I bought in Kentucky and about all of pasture and woodlands, the wildlife, the generous hunting seasons and bag limits, buying suppressors and thermal rifle scopes, etc.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by Fjold

No, it was to tell everyone here that I moved.

No one here knew it because I only posted a dozen times about the 70 acre farm that I bought in Kentucky and about all of pasture and woodlands, the wildlife, the generous hunting seasons and bag limits, buying suppressors and thermal rifle scopes, etc.

Should have posted in the CA Expatriates sub forum

[Fjold]

Originally Posted by 9Cal_OC

Should have posted in the CA Expatriates sub forum

I did that also,

[SharedShots]

Originally Posted by 9Cal_OC

Should have posted in the CA Expatriates sub forum

Originally Posted by Fjold

I did that also,

Don't sweat it, you'll have more going on in your backyard when it comes to guns than the entire state of California.




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[IronSloth]

Originally Posted by Fjold

No, it was to tell everyone here that I moved.

Congratulations on your new place!

[SandHill]

This is too funny. Kind of like, "you can't quit, you're fired!" "You can't fire me, I quit!"

Enjoy your greener pastures, OP. Lots of us back here plotting the day.

[Gnzrme]

Originally Posted by Fjold

No, it was to tell everyone here that I moved.

No one here knew it because I only posted a dozen times about the 70 acre farm that I bought in Kentucky and about all of pasture and woodlands, the wildlife, the generous hunting seasons and bag limits, buying suppressors and thermal rifle scopes, etc.

Even though I haven't gone in 4 years, I will miss seeing you at Cuama. Enjoy the retired life Frank, you've earned it.

[CSACANNONEER]

Why would you surrender it? The law is very clear that an IA can not legally revoke a LTC based solely on the fact that you've moved from their jurisdiction.

[GlockN'Roll]

So what part of Kentucky is, "Near Bakersfield" ....

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by CSACANNONEER

Why would you surrender it? The law is very clear that an IA can not legally revoke a LTC based solely on the fact that you've moved from their jurisdiction.

Link?

While one needs to notify the IA once they are no longer residents of that county. Ultimately, it’s sheriff’s discretion as they are may-issue.

[Fjold]

I'm in Cali this week, prepping the house for sale. I'll change my profile soon.


An LTC is good for 60 days after an address change but I flew back here last week without any of my carry guns so I went ahead and turned my LTC in.

[CSACANNONEER]

Originally Posted by GlockN'Roll

So what part of Kentucky is, "Near Bakersfield" ....

Most of it. Haven't you ever been to Bakersfield?

Originally Posted by 9Cal_OC

Link?

While one needs to notify the IA once they are no longer residents of that county. Ultimately, it’s sheriff’s discretion as they are may-issue.

Uh, Ultimately, you're wrong. Instead of simply providing the link to the CA penal code, I'll go further and cite the actual law:

26210. (a) When a licensee under this article has a change of address, the license shall be amended to reflect the new address and a new license shall be issued pursuant to subdivision (b) of Section 26215.
(b) The licensee shall notify the licensing authority in writing within 10 days of any change in the licensee’s place of residence.
(c) If both of the following conditions are satisfied, a license to carry a concealed handgun may not be revoked solely because the licensee’s place of residence has changed to another county:
(1) The licensee has not breached any of the conditions or restrictions set forth in the license.

(2) The licensee has not become prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm.

(d) Notwithstanding subdivision (c), if a licensee’s place of residence was the basis for issuance of a license, any license issued pursuant to Section 26150 or 26155 shall expire 90 days after the licensee moves from the county of issuance.
(e) If the license is one to carry loaded and exposed a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, the license shall be revoked immediately upon a change of the licensee’s place of residence to another county.
(Added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. (SB 1080) Effective January 1, 2011. Operative January 1, 2012, by Sec. 10 of Ch. 711.)

I believe any county in Kentucky would qualify as "another county".

[Fjold]

Kentucky is "Constitutional Carry" but I'll probably get a KY CCW just so I can carry in other States that require one and reciprocate with KY.

[Gnzrme]

Hows it going Frank? How's the new place coming along? By chance, do you live anywhere near Cadiz,KY?

Look up Tactical Rifleman and SGM Ret. Kyle Erickson.

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[DentonandSasquatchShow]

We're supposed to surrender? When I moved counties I just let my old one run out and got a new one in my new county.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by DentonandSasquatchShow

We're supposed to surrender? When I moved counties I just let my old one run out and got a new one in my new county.

Didn’t read the policy or state law huh?

[CAGLS]

Too bad it’s not that fast getting your ccw which I think as soon as you pass a background check, which should be minutes, it should be issued.

[Dan_Eastvale]

Why tell them?
Why not keep it?
It will expire and become invalid

[jigenax]

Originally Posted by Dan_Eastvale

Why tell them?
Why not keep it?
It will expire and become invalid

When I lived in CA, my IA was Placer County. They require written notification of any address changes within 10 days. Moving out of CA required surrender of CCW within 10 days. These are not suggestions but part of the CCW rules that I agreed to abide by as part of the CCW agreement. I'm not sure but I think the 10 day period is CA State regs for CCW issuance that all IAs must follow.

You could ignore it but if you apply for another CCW with a different IA, they (the new IA) will do a new background check and will find discrepancies. Specifically the date the CA CCW expired vs the date you started your new residency. The IA background investigator will contact the previous IA about their policies and your file.

For me, I'd rather not risk getting denied by the new IA because I didn't bother to abide by the old IA CCW agreement and policies. I currently have 6 CCW so if one denies me, it could affect my other CCWs. That's a risk I rather not take.

[Dan_Eastvale]

Originally Posted by jigenax

When I lived in CA, my IA was Placer County. They require written notification of any address changes within 10 days. Moving out of CA required surrender of CCW within 10 days. These are not suggestions but part of the CCW rules that I agreed to abide by as part of the CCW agreement. I'm not sure but I think the 10 day period is CA State regs for CCW issuance that all IAs must follow.

You could ignore it but if you apply for another CCW with a different IA, they (the new IA) will do a new background check and will find discrepancies. Specifically the date the CA CCW expired vs the date you started your new residency. The IA background investigator will contact the previous IA about their policies and your file.

For me, I'd rather not risk getting denied by the new IA because I didn't bother to abide by the old IA CCW agreement and policies. I currently have 6 CCW so if one denies me, it could affect my other CCWs. That's a risk I rather not take.

He moved to Kentucky. No more IAs
I meant when moving out of CA

Just like you don’t have to deregister AWs with CA DOJ
or notify DMV etc

Just leave and forget about CA

[BC9696]

I dunno Frank...I'd prefer "voluntary surrender" over "revoked" as others have expressed.

[Fjold]

Originally Posted by BC9696

I dunno Frank...I'd prefer "voluntary surrender" over "revoked" as others have expressed.

Bruce, it doesn't matter to me, I'll never live in California again.

I had my brother from San Jose, CA over during the gun deer season and he took a nice 9 point buck. Both my older daughters got their first deer this season, (One drove down from Minnesota) and I can hunt my own land with no hunting license or tags for deer, turkey, coyotes, fox, bocats, coons, groundhogs, squirrels, etc..

[ZirconJohn]

Originally Posted by Fjold

I just turned in my CCW ... before my car had left the Sheriff's office driveway I had a received a text message ...,

Your CCW License C6N2BXXXXX has been REVOKED by the Sheriff. Effective immediately, you are no longer authorized to carry a concealed weapon on your person or in a vehicle.

Ha ... ya ... too bad they don't issue them that fast!

[BC9696]

Originally Posted by Fjold

Bruce, it doesn't matter to me, I'll never live in California again.

I had my brother from San Jose, CA over during the gun deer season and he took a nice 9 point buck. Both my older daughters got their first deer this season, (One drove down from Minnesota) and I can hunt my own land with no hunting license or tags for deer, turkey, coyotes, fox, bocats, coons, groundhogs, squirrels, etc..

Sounds like Heaven...guess my invitation got lost in the mail. :-) Am planning to put a wooden arrow thru a muskox with a recurve in Kugluktuk in 25 months.

[Fjold]

Originally Posted by BC9696

Sounds like Heaven...guess my invitation got lost in the mail. :-) Am planning to put a wooden arrow thru a muskox with a recurve in Kugluktuk in 25 months.

Cool Bruce, I'm thinking Roe Buck, Fallow Deer and/or Red Stag in Poland, Romania or Hungary.