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Old 03-26-2019, 11:49 AM
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Default What are the .22LR Ar platforms today?

I have recently been looking to get a Bushmaster C22. They seemed very good. And I had seen people also had the ability to change the upper on a C22 to 5.56 or even 7.62x39.

Is there any other 22LR ARs that have this capability ? I tried looking for a bushmaster c22 only to find out they were discontinued.
I know that M&P 22 doesnít allow you to swap uppers.

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Old 03-26-2019, 12:11 PM
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PSA, CMMG, TACSOL, CHIAPPA. Probably others. I would shop in that order too, IMHO.
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If you're desire is to swap out uppers in multiple calibers then get any mil spec lower. There are over a dozen brands of 22 LR uppers. Just be sure to make gun "featureless" when swapping a centerfire upper on it.
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Old 03-26-2019, 12:18 PM
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Thanks guys. Iíll definitely start taking a look into those.


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If you're desire is to swap out uppers in multiple calibers then get any mil spec lower. There are over a dozen brands of 22 LR uppers. Just be sure to make gun "featureless" when swapping a centerfire upper on it.
^^^^THIS^^^^
I have a DPMS .22 upper sitting on a Spike’s m4 lower. Its been flawless through 1000’s of rounds. Has a similar bolt to a Ruger 10/22. Very well made. Highly recommend.


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Mine is a CMMG lightweight upper on a New Frontier polymer lower. Has been perfect IIRC. Only thing I had to do was swap in a milspec trigger group.

If I built another I'd just build up a spec forged stripped lower and get a PSA AR-22 upper.
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You don’t need to go with brand name.
Buy a lower and build your own 22lr.
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Tactical solutions or JP.
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Add Model 1 to your upper options,
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You donít need to go with brand name.
Buy a lower and build your own 22lr.


Of course thatís a way to go but now the age is 21 or older to build and register an AR and essentially thatís what I wanted to do. But being under 21 I canít. Only reason I was looking into that Bushmaster C22 was because it was cheap little rifle and I could easily swap a 5.56 upper on it or like a 7.62x39 if I wanted to and still switch to the .22. But after searching and searching thereís no other .22LR that has swappable uppers.


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But after searching and searching thereís no other .22LR that has swappable uppers.

HUH? Any AR-22 is a regular lower with a .22 upper. There are plenty that sell them as complete rifles. LANTAC Raven, KRISS, ATI, various AR parts slangers, etc... any regular AR upper in other calibers would pin on.

You could by any CA OK 5.56 like a Black Rain, Ruger, S&W, etc... at an LGS and then buy a PSA .22 upper.
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I've shot PSA and Nordic Components 22 uppers. No problems with either. One of the PSA's had a fairly tight chamber and took an extra push on the bolt to put into battery every few shots (until it broke-in). Now it's fine.
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HUH? Any AR-22 is a regular lower with a .22 upper. There are plenty that sell them as complete rifles. LANTAC Raven, KRISS, ATI, various AR parts slangers, etc... any regular AR upper in other calibers would pin on.



You could by any CA OK 5.56 like a Black Rain, Ruger, S&W, etc... at an LGS and then buy a PSA .22 upper.


Yeah. Sorry if it was confusing. Ok for example the M&P 15-22 is regular .22lr rifle. But from videos Iíve seen a standard 5.56 upper wonít fit on it.

The Bushmaster C22 was one of those rifles that was a complete .22 but it had the ability to switch uppers. But they discontinued it.

I wanted something that came as a regular .22LR AR but that can have the upper changed if I wanted. From what Iíve seen those .22Lr ARS go for like $300-$400.

Iíve seen other brands of .22 ARs but they are like $1000.


I just wanted something cheap that came in .22Lr but that I can swap a standard 5.56 upper if I wanted thatís all.


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Yeah. Sorry if it was confusing.

I just wanted something cheap that came in .22Lr but that I can swap a standard 5.56 upper if I wanted that’s all.
Yeah it wasn't clear that the price was the thing you had issues with...

AR-22's are more expensive than a lot of plastic or dedicated .22 only rifles.

I think my CMMG complete upper was $400 - maybe a little under that.

PSA complete .22 uppers are around $250-$300 I think

https://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-1...ber_multi=2026

Lowers are pretty cheap to build. Still $450+ for a rifle. People always complained that AR-22's are as expensive as a centerfire AR.

My SIG522 was probably more than the cheapest AR22 you can build.

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Of course thatís a way to go but now the age is 21 or older to build and register an AR and essentially thatís what I wanted to do. But being under 21 I canít. .

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Would a AR-9 make more sense instead of AR-22 ?

I guess the question would raise if 9mm considered AW ?

Overall, I dont see an avenue from AR-22 to AR-15.

I am seeing under 21 yr olds going for M1s and Mini 14s.
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Tippman. 22LR is a really nice rifle.

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Would a AR-9 make more sense instead of AR-22 ?

I guess the question would raise if 9mm considered AW ?

Overall, I dont see an avenue from AR-22 to AR-15.

I am seeing under 21 yr olds going for M1s and Mini 14s.
I don't know what avenue that is. I already have an dedicated AR-22, and a few other .22's that fill the same role... and I have almost bought additional .22 uppers quite a few times.

As far as an AR-9, you could do it but a lot of those configs would have a specific 9mm lower with 9mm mag-well. You could do different types of adapters that could be removed to convert a 9mm lower to a regular milspec. When I was looking at them, I would have built one with a Glock magwell.

Maybe if you were going to have one rifle, you'd not want an AR-22... but since it is rimfire you can have all the normal features.

New AR-9 with new receivers, you cannot. That's one of the reasons PC CARBINES and similar are so popular here.

I do get that there are plenty of people who are too tough or too cool for rimfire though, hahahah. Too new.
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I use an older 1/9 twist non-chrome 5.56 barrel with a conversion bolt fitted. That barrel shoots .22LR better than my .22LR barrels do. The other 5.56 barrels don't work very well and some are expensive brands.
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I use an older 1/9 twist non-chrome 5.56 barrel with a conversion bolt fitted. That barrel shoots .22LR better than my .22LR barrels do. The other 5.56 barrels don't work very well and some are expensive brands.
That's interesting. The only 1:9 I have is an old chrome one that always shot 55 grainers really well - never had a conversion bolt.

All the .22 LR barrels I see that are 1:9 are special for the Aguilla SS... otherwise they are 1:16.
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Guess it's like a broken clock, that barrel isn't anything special with 5.56 as others I have beat it. It just shoots .22LR really well.
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Just get a M&P 15-22.... Works great and is also pretty cheap.
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What is the opinion of the HK 416 22lr?

Its got a "gen 2" out now according to shot show video.
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All the .22 LR barrels I see that are 1:9 are special for the Aguilla SS... otherwise they are 1:16.
Aguila SS will not cycle well in semi autos, not enough powder. They also keyhole in every gun I have here, even the Henry Golden Boy that is dead accurate with Federal Auto Match.
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They also keyhole in every gun I have here, even the Henry Golden Boy that is dead accurate with Federal Auto Match.
Yep, that's why they make special barrels for them with 1:9 twist. Some people get them to cycle fine in 15-22's, 10/22, TC-r 22, etc... better than CCI Quiet. I have a brick of them, but have not tested. I might have shot some in a revolver.

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Last part on my lightweight AR22 will be a CMC trigger group... had a couple sitting on the shelf, probably should have done it a long time ago. I think I was meaning to remove my RRA Match from an 556AR and swap it over to the AR22.

Old Bushmaster Milspec trigger is pretty heavy. Deciding between a CMC 3.5 curved or a Lantac Flat - prob go with the weird looking one, hahah.
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I was shooting my DPMS .22 upper yesterday, it's a lot funner with those black dog 25 rounders now.

About 15 feet down were 3 little kids with their parents shooting 1 bolt action .22 and the kids were just staring at me. I gave it to them to shoot and just shot some pistols I brought. By the time they were done the dad came over and thanked me and said he was buying a .22 AR this weekend.
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So I ended up swapping around triggers but I got my AR22 squared. Ended up with a Geissele SSA in it, which is a good match and nice improvement over the old MILSPEC.

My New Frontier polymer lower caused yet another incompatibility, hahah. CMC pack wouldn't quite fit to get the pins lined up through the receiver. Got the trigger housing front lip nicely ground on my worksharp and it fit, then the hammer wouldn't drop due to the safety being a weird polymer safety and since I had no extra MILSPEC safety I said screw it... I had another AR out the safe I was working on... trying a new backfin type grip (replaced the MIAD/Backfin)... so whatever traditional (non-drop-in) trigger was in there was getting swapped (happened to be a SSA). Works great. The CMC 3.5 curved works great in the other AR too. If you ever get a NFA lower, get it stripped and use spec parts. Nice light lower for a rimfire, but the trigger and safety they give you is weird trash.

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