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Old 09-10-2019, 2:39 PM
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I reload 9mm for 9 cents per round. 135gr bullet tailored to my pistol and my shooting preference. Of course, that's not counting my time but I can crank out 600 rounds in an hour if needed. You can do your own math to figure out if it's worth it.

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Old 09-10-2019, 4:19 PM
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Yes it is worth it in many ways. First off, I see a lot of people paying too much for most of their components. I've never paid more than $29.00 for a gross of primers, CCI or Federal. Bullets and powders can be found at reasonable prices and if you need to, put together a bulk order with some of your shooting friends. Powders Inc or Powder Valley always have good prices and when there are 4,5 or 6 people combining orders the savings are better.
Right now 9mm can be found at really good prices ($7.97/box WalMart *case price on Remington 115gr ball). At that price you can save just a little, more so if you go to plated bullets (and yes they work fine in Glock) but probably not worth it if you need to buy equipment. As far as .223/5.56 same there too but the added advantage there is your own quality control and you end up with a superior product doing it yourself. Mass production cannot match hand loading in accuracy, even the companies that have "Match Ammo".
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Being able to adjust your bullet tensions is worth it alone.
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Has long as we are talking about money...

Gunshows have been an excellent place finding reloading components of all kinds
inexpensively. Mostly brass and cast bullets.

If you can force yourself to shoot a cast bullet that weighs 5 or 10 grains lighter or heavier
than your favorite load, cost per reloaded cartridge can be cut half.
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Old 09-10-2019, 7:54 PM
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Good 9mm is still about a buck a round. Maybe 80ish cents, but its not all that cheap. And no one is blasting off premium SD ammo at the range all day... but I'd put my handloads against premium stuff! It is comparable.

People tend to compare handloads for pistols to the cheapest garbage ammo out there. Not really apples to apples. Same with 223. Premium 223 isnt cheap.

I've been shooting my own reloads for so long, it kind of catches me off guard how ****ty low end store bought ammo is when I do happen to shoot it. Im just using cheap lee stuff too, its not *great* handloads.
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I enjoy reloading. I think I might save a little on 45 colt, 38/357 and 30-30. I mostly reload 9mm and 45acp, probably not a lot of savings on those two but it keeps me busy.
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I reload as a hobby on a small scale. On more exotic or less popular calibers like 458 SOCOM or even 45-70 I definitely save significant $ per round, but thatís really just a beneficial side effect. More important is that I enjoy experimenting with bullets and powders and loads. With 45-70 I have the flexibility to create anything from a load suitable for an antique trapdoor to something powerful for a strong modern action.

I would never bother reloading 9mm or 5.56 myself, because I have no reason to optimize them. I do a little bit of reloading for 45 ACP mostly because I have situations where I want either lower power or higher power rounds than typical factory loads.
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I know a lot of people get into reloading to save money, but is it really worth it?

Right now I am only really shooting 9mm and 5.56. I have a .40 S&W and a 12 gauge and am saving for a rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor. But the VAST majority of my shooting is 9mm and 5.56.

And I am currently on track to shoot somewhere between 5-10,000 rounds of 9mm and about 5,000 rounds of 5.56. Using Brownells prices, not including the price of loss brass, I'd save about $20/1000 rounds of 9mm. I couldn't find 5.56 bullets on there, so unsure about that.

Assuming I do not start shooting more, it kind of feels like just getting a prime membership at Target Sports USA once my FFL03 comes in will be about the same savings, especially since it will have an obviously much smaller time investment.

Unless I get into competition and want specialized rounds, is it pointless to go purchase reloading equipment and supplies for my apartment?
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Old 09-11-2019, 7:01 AM
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If the cost of loaded ammunition is too close to that of reloads, shoot the factory ammunition, but save the brass!

And, plan ahead. Antigunners plan to make ammunition very expensive for you, so, stock up on cases, primers, and bullets. Gunpowders deteriorate, plan to use your gunpowder up within 10 years, I have been dumping 20 year old powders.





Lead styphanate primers last, essentially, forever. Buy as much as you can when prices are low. Like, right now. Before the next Democratic President and Congress.

Buy cheap bullets. They last forever.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:36 AM
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It's about an hour and a half each way to the nearest store in California that sells ammunition. It's about a 40 second walk to the room I use for reloading.
There will come a time in CA where ammo will be next to impossible to get. If you're staying put in CA, you need to be thinking about that.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:51 AM
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I reload because I enjoy it. The process of developing the loads and trying them. Same in the kitchen; I like to cook, make my own recipes.

I know I save money; all my rifle loads are premium accurate loads; that grade of ammo is way expensive, even in something like 223/556. I can't really compare my reloads to bulk 4MOA ball ammo.

And, I like some cartridges like 300 Savage and 30-06 Ackley Improved. 300 Savage is available, but hard to find. 30-06 Ackley is a handload proposition.
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There’s no way I could afford to shoot in competition if I had to pay retail for ammo. 38supercomp major is $410 per thousand. It’s only available from a few retailers. Reloads are less than $100 per thousand. I’m definitely not going pay retail for Black Hills 77 grain .223 when I can make it myself.
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Old 09-11-2019, 8:50 PM
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I reload 9mm 124 gr JHP for around $152/1000. I purchase brass for around $20 per 1000 off Gunbroker; and primers for around $20 to $22 per 1000. Rocky Mountain Reloading for the 124 gr JHP, or Precision Delta. A small amount of slop is in those numbers for tumbling media, which adds very little as I stretch its use out there; and sometimes shipping costs hit me, but not always.

124 gr JHP over 4.5 gr. of HP-38, 1.125 OCL. Very accurate and a good round for more than punching holes in paper.

I also reload .40s, .45 acp, .32 acp, 38/357 and multiple rifle calibers. I cannot afford to purchase at retail prices what I reload.

Switching to poly coated lead, 124 gr., reduce that cost by $30 per 1000. $122 for 1000 rounds of good 9mm rounds; that works good for my budget.
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Thereís no way I could afford to shoot in competition if I had to pay retail for ammo. 38supercomp major is $410 per thousand. Itís only available from a few retailers. Reloads are less than $100 per thousand. Iím definitely not going pay retail for Black Hills 77 grain .223 when I can make it myself.
Yep same here.

there's no way I could afford 140 rounds of match 308 each month $210 in ammo each month at $30 per 20 rounds.

or about $260 for 500 rounds of reloads. I can shoot for three months of what one month of factory match costs
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Itís better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it.

Also when your choosing a rifle because the ammo is cheap instead of because it is the best round for what you want to do. That is the day your glad you have reloading equipment. Like my 338-378 at $8.00 a round.
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Yes my wife and shoot three to four IDPA matches a month plus 2-4 sanctions matches a year. Next weekend we will be in Little Rock shooting the Fall Brawl.
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Just remember those shooting matches and such I doubt you had to come on an internet site and ask about reloading and if it is worth it??? Those that do post such questions are usually shooter who are not in high volume comp or own hard to find cartridges they want to shoot A LOT of rounds in. You are comparing apples and oranges. So IF you have to ask then it is probably not for you. Most that reload either wanted to from the start or were forced into it due to things like comp and using high volumes of ammo. The 2 reasons also often call for different equipment to be used also
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Just remember those shooting matches and such I doubt you had to come on an internet site and ask about reloading and if it is worth it??? Those that do post such questions are usually shooter who are not in high volume comp or own hard to find cartridges they want to shoot A LOT of rounds in. You are comparing apples and oranges. So IF you have to ask then it is probably not for you. Most that reload either wanted to from the start or were forced into it due to things like comp and using high volumes of ammo. The 2 reasons also often call for different equipment to be used also
I agree with this. I don't love reloading. I wasn't really sure I would before I did it. So it wasn't like I was interested in doing it as a hobby. Once I started competing, I realized quick that I had to start reloading in order to support the amount of shooting I would need to do to become good at it. And it's not so much the ammo count for matches. It's the amount of ammo you can burn through in training. I shoot at least 1000 rounds a month and that's only because I don't have easy access to a range that allows me to move and shoot. That's gonna change for me soon and I expect to at least double my round count. I couldn't do this if not for reloading.

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I load 9mm for about 12cents a round, the load is more accurate that factory ammo that costs twice that.
I load .38spl (not nearly as much as 9mm)
and I recently bought a gun in .32acp knowing I can load for it if needed.
[Though start up cost for a new caliber can be about $200]
Still researching components for that one....

If my wife asks; I'm saving money!
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Just remember those shooting matches and such I doubt you had to come on an internet site and ask about reloading and if it is worth it??? Those that do post such questions are usually shooter who are not in high volume comp or own hard to find cartridges they want to shoot A LOT of rounds in. You are comparing apples and oranges. So IF you have to ask then it is probably not for you. Most that reload either wanted to from the start or were forced into it due to things like comp and using high volumes of ammo. The 2 reasons also often call for different equipment to be used also
Again it comes down to.

IF YOU HAVE TO ASK IT'S PROBABLY NOT FOR YOU

Cost never entered my mind. it was all about having access to a near endless supply of ammo
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