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Old 03-10-2020, 10:29 AM
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Default Remington 700 or Winchester mod 70

Looking for a 270 winchester, I can’t decide between a 700 or Mod 70. What are the pluses and minuses of both actions? I already own a 700 in 300 win mag, A Sako in .243 and a FN mauser in 30-06 (that I plan on rechambering to 9.3 mauser or .35 whelen.
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I’m not a rifle guru, so hopefully other members will chime in.

I have a R700 and one of the pluses was the aftermarket support, a lot of options.
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I’m not a rifle guru, so hopefully other members will chime in.

I have a R700 and one of the pluses was the aftermarket support, a lot of options.
That’s kinda what I thought.
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Do you plan to customize it? Rem700 because of extensive aftermarket.

If you're leaving it basically stock, it's more personal preference, ergonomics etc.
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I have both a 243 model 70 pre 64 and a 700 in 22.250 both have very nice triggers and are extremely accurate.
The main deference is the controlled feed on the 70 not that I've had any issues with the 700.
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I have both a 243 model 70 pre 64 and a 700 in 22.250 both have very nice triggers and are extremely accurate.
The main deference is the controlled feed on the 70 not that I've had any issues with the 700.
IIRC Controlled feed was only on the pre 64’s and the rifles made in the 90’s?
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Do you need CRF and 3 position safety that was on the older model 70s? If so it is Winchester, otherwise personal preference.
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If you already have a FN Mauser in 30-06 you plan on rebarreling why not put a 270 barrel on it?
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If you already have a FN Mauser in 30-06 you plan on rebarreling why not put a 270 barrel on it?
I’ve thought of that, but felt that 9.3 Mauser would be more suitable/traditional in a Mauser action.
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I own both. For new rifles, my new go to is a Tikka T-3X. I have one in 270 Win. It's not picky about ammo and it hits where I point it. It is my favorite rifle.

There's a good amount of after market parts for them.
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are you stuck on Rem or win?

I would assume by cartridge choice this is a hunting only rifle.

I have both rifles in 7mag and 06'. how much upgrading do you want
to do to a hunting only rifle, if in fact that's what you want.
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are you stuck on Rem or win?

I would assume by cartridge choice this is a hunting only rifle.

I have both rifles in 7mag and 06'. how much upgrading do you want
to do to a hunting only rifle, if in fact that's what you want.
Just want a decent 270 just seems to be alot out there in the used market in the $500 range.
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Just throwing an idea out there; I have thought for a while one of the Remington 76xx pumps would be nice in 270. Haven't actually shot one; only handled at local gun show.
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I own both. For new rifles, my new go to is a Tikka T-3X. I have one in 270 Win. It's not picky about ammo and it hits where I point it. It is my favorite rifle.

There's a good amount of after market parts for them.
I also have a T3 in .270. Got it used for $450. It is super accurate. Cant go wrong with a Tikka. Kicks like a mule but not as bad as the T3 in .3006 I used to have. That recoil was brutal.

If its between a 700 or a post 64, go with the 700 no question. Only 70 worth having is a pre 64 for that smooth action. The post 64 action is what Winchester did to compete with the cheaper push feed action of the 700. IMO, Remington does the push feed better in the 700.
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You a nostalgia buff? Think Jack O'Connor and pre-64 Winchester Model 70 chambered in .270 Winchester. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_O%27Connor_(writer) ) And what the heck, they don't call it .270 WINCHESTER because you are supposed to put it in a REMINGTON??? On a more serious note, why the .270? It certainly is an excellent hunting cartridge but if you reload the bullet selection available, while generally adequate, is pretty limited compared to .30 cal. There is scant, if any, practical difference between the .270 and the 30-06, which you already have.
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Any current M70 is "Pre 64 Style" and is patterned after the original CRF action. They are solid, reliable, and good to go if you want a straight forward rifle that you don't really plan on doing anything too.

If you plan on messing around with the aftermarket, the R700 has more options. I have not been impressed by Remington's out of the box quality, and have long since given up spending hard earned money on them. Seems that the clones like Bergara do it better than the original.
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"If its between a 700 or a post 64, go with the 700 no question. Only 70 worth having is a pre 64 for that smooth action. The post 64 action is what Winchester did to compete with the cheaper push feed action of the 700. IMO, Remington does the push feed better in the 700."

I generally concur, but the post-64 Model 70 Classic with the controlled feed is pretty good too.
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Looking at what you have,myself I would go with the Winchester because you dont have one.
My Uncle was a WWII D-DAY vet and used the 03 as the squad sniper.
He Hunted with his old 70 in .270 all his life killed many a Deer.
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Around $500... a r700 or XPR. Another $150 you're into a 1lb lighter tikka t3x, another $200 for a new m70.
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You a nostalgia buff? Think Jack O'Connor and pre-64 Winchester Model 70 chambered in .270 Winchester. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_O%27Connor_(writer) ) And what the heck, they don't call it .270 WINCHESTER because you are supposed to put it in a REMINGTON??? On a more serious note, why the .270? It certainly is an excellent hunting cartridge but if you reload the bullet selection available, while generally adequate, is pretty limited compared to .30 cal. There is scant, if any, practical difference between the .270 and the 30-06, which you already have.
27 caliber Copper Bullets expand better than .30 cal bullets when placed in an 06 shell. And yes, I’m sort of a nostalgia buff
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27 caliber Copper Bullets expand better than .30 cal bullets when placed in an 06 shell. And yes, I’m sort of a nostalgia buff
Then get a CRF model 70 in 270 and dig out the old O'Conner articles...
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I have 2 of the Remington 700's in .270 Winchester and they are tack drivers. I have a .375 H&H model 70 Winchester, also a great rifle.

Personally I like the Remington action and operation better than the Winchester. They both are classics and you won't make a wrong choice, pick the one that feels the best to you.
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??? If you say so. My take is you load a lighter grain bullet and thereby pump up the velocity for reliable expansion.
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Between the two I would go Remington. If looking for a cheap but very good hunting rifle I would suggest the Mauser M18. I bought one from Euro optic for $419 on sale. What a great rifle for a hunting rifle. Takes Remington 700 scope base and has a phenomenal trigger. Well worth the money over other base rifles.
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I prefer the mod 70 for hunting cause it has a safety that locks the bolt down.
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??? If you say so. My take is you load a lighter grain bullet and thereby pump up the velocity for reliable expansion.
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If you are a " purist " go for the Winchester 270, my son in law has a USRA win 70 CRF and it lays 'em down ! If the e pluribus was not a issue I would get one of the new Winchesters now. But, my BAR Belgium made 7 rem mag lays 'em down also. And .270 win is .277 cal.

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In this instance a purist would be a person who agrees with what has been said for years: The Winchester mod 70 IS the rifle mans rifle. One of the greatest rifle's ever made for hunters.

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Looking for a 270 winchester, I can’t decide between a 700 or Mod 70. What are the pluses and minuses of both actions? I already own a 700 in 300 win mag, A Sako in .243 and a FN mauser in 30-06 (that I plan on rechambering to 9.3 mauser or .35 whelen.
The Mod. 70 has controlled feed and the Mod. 700 does not it is a push feed. The 3 position safety is a + to me on the Mod 70. Both will shoot well enough no matter what caliber you do this in. The Rem 700 has lots more after market support than the Mod 70. I have both and hunt with both and to be honest I like the Winchester a lot better. It's your choice, enjoy.
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I have a newish Winchester Model 70 Alaskan model in .30-06 and it is a very fine rifle, much nicer than any Remington 700’s I have handled.

The Winchester rifles are now assembled in Portugal by FN with USA parts, but the rifle is beautifully blued with a super smooth action (controlled feed style), very nice walnut, and very accurate.

It also cost well over 1200 dollars, so not bargain priced.

It is so nice I would like another in .270 Winchester or .264 Win Mag.

The Sporter model looks nice, and the Extreme Weather or Extreme Tungsten are super cool. The Super grade models are dreamy.

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IIRC Controlled feed was only on the pre 64’s and the rifles made in the 90’s?
Current production Winchesters are controlled feed.
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If it were me, I’d go with a current production m70 featherweight in 270win. I doubt you’ll ever feel like it was a mistake.

Sure a 30.06 with 150gr bullets will do the same thing with copper but I don’t think there’s anything in CA that you’ll have trouble killing with a 270.
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