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Old 07-22-2019, 12:36 PM
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Default Best Scope for 100 Yards?

I am new to rifle scopes. I love taking new people to the range.

I have always used iron sights but age is slowly catching up to me. Also, I feel my new shooters will likely have more fun when they can see hits on target through the rifle scope they are using.

Would that be possible with a 3-9x or 4-12x scope?

I'm currently deciding between the Nikon prostaff 3-9x or a Vortex model. Are there other options I should look at?

Primary use is punching holes through paper. Years down the line likely hunting (but I can buy another scope if needed then).
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Old 07-22-2019, 12:51 PM
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Do you qualify for the Leopold or Vortex military/LE discounts?

But yes, for 100 yards most any scope will work for casual target shooting. What kind of rifle are you shooting?
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Old 07-22-2019, 8:50 PM
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I dont qualify for military/le discount.

I'll be shooting my first 5.56 AR build. I'm trying to make it as fun as possible for new shooters. I'm leaning towards the Nikon Prostaff 3-9x because it's supposed to be optically the same as the newer p223 series and I see a few websites trying to get rid of them at $120.
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Old 07-23-2019, 9:44 AM
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It will work. "I" prefer more power for paper punching only. Do not expect to see the bullet holes.
I have 3X9X40 and such on a number of my hunting rifles and they work ok at the range. To really be able to see the smaller bullet holes I use my Leupold VX3i 4.5X14X40 set on 14X.
For the purpose and the money it looks like you found a scope to get
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Old 07-23-2019, 10:00 AM
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I think the most important thing about a rifle scope for new shooters is forgiving eye relief.

I find that most new shooters have a hard time finding the proper eye relief distance when shouldering a rifle. They either have their eye too far or too close, and the higher the magnification, the harder it is for them to find the proper scope image.

Since the shooting distance is only 100 yards, I would recommend a red dot sight or 1X magnification optic with the reticle etched into glass. These types of optics have the most forgiving eye relief.

Depending on the glass quality, you will need about 16X magnification to see 22 caliber bullet holes at 100 yards, and that's a bit too much magnification for an AR-15 in 223. New shooters will have a hard time finding the proper eye relief on such a scope, I guarantee it.

If you want to see hits on target, use reactive targets like Shoot-N-C targets, steel gongs or spinning rubber chickens or something. Or have a separate spotting scope set up next to the shooter with enough magnification to see the bullet holes, that's how NRA highpower guys do it.

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Old 07-23-2019, 11:55 AM
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I have seen Nikon is fairly forgiving regarding eye relief. Cabela has the Nikon prostaff 3-9x for 120.

I just found a wierd site attempting to be Amazon with a wierd category system.

The Nikon prostaff 5 (3.5-14mm) and a mount cost 118 after discounts at checkout.

If it is legitimate, I'll post the website for you guys. If not, I'll contact my CC.

Thanks for all the advice. Any more advice is appreciated.
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Old 07-23-2019, 9:11 PM
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Get more magnification than you think you need.

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I used Leupold VX-R Patrol 3x9 with 1/10th MIL Click Adjustment. its a great optic for the range you need.
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Old 07-26-2019, 6:21 AM
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I dont qualify for military/le discount.

I'll be shooting my first 5.56 AR build. I'm trying to make it as fun as possible for new shooters. I'm leaning towards the Nikon Prostaff 3-9x because it's supposed to be optically the same as the newer p223 series and I see a few websites trying to get rid of them at $120.
I put that scope on a marlin 60 recently. Love for the range. Simple, easy to use. Decent glass for the price.
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what about Vorex Diamondback in 3-9 flavor? Best kept secret.
But if you go this way do not get 4-12. They are not so good.
I have three of them. IMO Nikon not as good as Vortex.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Diam...ty!95139!US!-1


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Old 08-01-2019, 8:34 AM
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I would go with a LPVO for 100 yards. 1-4x, 1-6x, 1-8x
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Old 08-21-2019, 8:36 PM
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The Primary Arms Silver Series is a really great scope at a cheap price. Probably won't find a comparable first focal plane scope near this price without a military/vet/LEO discount.

https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-...dot-pa4-14xffp
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Old 08-21-2019, 9:09 PM
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I would go with a LPVO for 100 yards. 1-4x, 1-6x, 1-8x
This is the way to go. Home defense/CQB to 100 yards easy. That’s what I put on all my AR’s except for my dedicated long range guns
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Old 08-24-2019, 5:04 PM
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9x is hard to see the holes at 100, unless they're shoot n see targets. At that range, you can get the bigass 100 packs of 4 inch targets and hit them consistently. Its difficult to see on a normal black/white paper target though.

For 223, id just count on using the shoot n see's, even with a 12x (kinda overkill for that close).
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Old 08-24-2019, 6:18 PM
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100 yards or less, I just go with a 1x Aimpoint.
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Old 08-25-2019, 3:26 PM
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3-9, 4-12, 2-10, will all be fine for 100 yards as long as it’s good glass.
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Old 08-25-2019, 3:39 PM
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100 yards or less, I just go with a 1x Aimpoint.
I was going to say for 100 yards I wouldn’t even get a variable power.
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Old 08-25-2019, 4:39 PM
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More magnification can mean more weight. Off of a rest or on the bench it may not be an issue, but shooting off-hand can get tiring after a while.

Shoot-N-C type targets help greatly with any magnification. I order a bulk pack every now and then to save some money.

If you don't already, bring a spotting scope or a pair of binoculars when you take new shooters out, you can take turns spotting for each other which can really add to the fun.
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Even a 3 or 4 power will get everything done @100yds in a very lightweight package.

The real question is; what type reticle to use?
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Get more magnification than you think you need.
This if you want to see your hits.
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:43 AM
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I use way more magnification paper punching at 100 yards than I do shooting targets at 1000+ yards. No need for a separate spotting scope either.

With a good quality scope I tend to like 20x to 25x so i can quarter the bullseye. But YMMV
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I feel my new shooters will likely have more fun when they can see hits on target through the rifle scope they are using.

Would that be possible with a 3-9x or 4-12x scope?

Primary use is punching holes through paper. Years down the line likely hunting (but I can buy another scope if needed then).

Most (not all) of the replies here are ignoring your stated use for the scope. I have pretty good eyesight and seeing bullet holes is difficult with anything less than 20x. No idea what caliber you’re shooting, obviously a .308 will be easier to see vs. 22LR.

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what about Vorex Diamondback in 3-9 flavor? Best kept secret.
But if you go this way do not get 4-12. They are not so good.
I have three of them. IMO Nikon not as good as Vortex.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Diam...ty!95139!US!-1


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What about something like Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24?? Would this be a decent scope for AR15 shooting 100 yards?? Asking for OP and myself, I wanted to buy one while they are still on sale.
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