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Old 09-16-2023, 4:44 PM
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Anyone out there loading the Russian 7.62x39 on their 1050 0r 1100. If so what's your setup and choice of dies and was there issues. Thanks.
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Old 09-20-2023, 7:03 PM
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The only caliber I had no desire to reload was the Russian 7.62x39mm

It is cheaper to buy Wolf, Tula or Yugoslavian surplus
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Old 09-20-2023, 9:28 PM
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Next thing you're going to tell me is you had no desire to reload 5.45x39. J/K
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Old 09-20-2023, 11:14 PM
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I have a set of lee dies somewhere, but have never gotten around to loading any x39. Would have to find lead free bullets for my intended use. Since it?s not a priority project, more just a fun idea, I?ve never bothered.
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Old 09-20-2023, 11:54 PM
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When you find bulk boxer brass and bullets please keep us posted. I’d reload it.
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Old 09-21-2023, 5:27 PM
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I've loaded 7.62x39 for years, but not on a Dillon. No real issues and use Lee dies.
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I've loaded 7.62x39 for years, but not on a Dillon. No real issues and use Lee dies.
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Old 09-21-2023, 9:45 PM
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Case head for X39 is very close (+.007 on drawings) to 38spl - 357Mag. Depending on the precision and contour of the shell plate / shell holder for Dillon, that one may or may not work.
Not really familiar with the intricacies of Dillon conversion kits, but maybe could cobble something together to work.

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Old 09-21-2023, 9:49 PM
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I use a hornady single stage or my lee turret press. Too expensive to convert my dillon for what I shoot out of my ak47. I use mixed commercial brass, large rifle primers cfe black and 123 gr privi bullets
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Old 09-22-2023, 11:48 AM
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I've run some test loads on my T7 for a few hundred rounds so I have good data for producing large quantities. I just don't know if it cost effective to spend $230 on Dillions conversion kit.


So new brass is available from Starline from time to time and there are a few companies selling once fired reloadable, so it's out there.
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Old 09-22-2023, 6:03 PM
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Diamond K Brass has decent prices on once fired. Have to check each case for the Berdans. Only headache with 7.62x39 in bulk is most (all?) projectiles are flat base so have to be careful not to shave off some of the base seating it.
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Old 09-22-2023, 7:56 PM
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Diamond K definitely has the 7.62 brass but they kill you on shipping even though its via USPS.


As for projectiles, I'm giving X-Treme's 125gr a try. With the .311 expander on the RCBS de-cap die there little no shaving when seating. The .125 measure out to .310 consistently.


Hopefully I can get out soon to run the ladders on my 70 and 72 Yugos.
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The only caliber I had no desire to reload was the Russian 7.62x39mm

It is cheaper to buy Wolf, Tula or Yugoslavian surplus
When the stupid CA ammo law came into effect, I bought a lot of wolf ammo to stock up, but also some ppu (I think) boxer primed 7.62x39 to reload so I wouldn't have to deal with the ammo law (which turned out to be more of a nuisance than a real problem). I still haven't gotten to it yet due to the sheer amount of wolf ammo I bought!
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I've been reloading for years using Lee dies. Local ranges like Angeles don't allow magnetic bullets, so lots of surplus is out, same with most wolf/s&b/etc.

I use cheap prvi projectiles from grafs and 4198. I'm going tontry cfe-blk and see if I can get better groups.

My loads work, but never quite match wolf for accuracy.

I'm on the 6th or 7th loading on one batch of brass. It looks like hell but still works.
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I reload 762x39 and 5.45x39.
I use starline for 7.62, and convert .222/223 for 5.45.
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I reload 762x39 and 5.45x39.
I use starline for 7.62, and convert .222/223 for 5.45.
It?s good to hear someone out there?s reloading 5.45. Can I ask what projectiles you?re using and dies? I picked some Hornady V Max in 60 gr. but really just want some bulk projectiles for the range.
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Just started exploring the 5.45, in case the ammo ever dries up permanent.
Using hornady dies, and 60gr Vmax.
For ****zNGrins, Ive made some Mex Match loads with wolf components swapping the bullet for Vmax. Pulling the wolf bullet is challenging.
I got the Lee swager to convert .224 to .221.
Started converting .222 cases to 5.45, but found that .223 cases ran through a 222rem die, trimmed, then sized in 5.45 die seems to work.
Using hornady load data with CFE223 powder
Some day soon i hope to get it all test fired.
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Old 11-29-2023, 7:48 PM
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Was able to get out to Burro yesterday and 29gr of CFE BLk seems be a good mix of accuracy and recoil on my M70. I'll probably narrow my loads between the mid 29's and high 28's.


I also ran some test loads of .357 mag on my 1892 and I was impressed with the H110 in the mid 14's.

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Old 11-29-2023, 7:49 PM
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Just started exploring the 5.45, in case the ammo ever dries up permanent.
Using hornady dies, and 60gr Vmax.
For ****zNGrins, Ive made some Mex Match loads with wolf components swapping the bullet for Vmax. Pulling the wolf bullet is challenging.
I got the Lee swager to convert .224 to .221.
Started converting .222 cases to 5.45, but found that .223 cases ran through a 222rem die, trimmed, then sized in 5.45 die seems to work.
Using hornady load data with CFE223 powder
Some day soon i hope to get it all test fired.
Great information, I'll start making some brass and working up some test loads.
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Was able to get out to Burro yesterday and 29gr of CFE BLk seems be a good mix of accuracy and recoil on my M70. I'll probably narrow my loads between the mid 29's and high 28's.


I also ran some test loads of .357 mag on my 1892 and I was impressed with the H110 in the mid 14's.

More to come when time permits.
Your M70 doesn't leave a nasty deflection crease on the case?
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Your M70 doesn't leave a nasty deflection crease on the case?
Those deflector dings pop right out when you fire the reloaded case and you get a new deflector ding somewhere else on the case.
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Old 11-30-2023, 9:52 AM
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Your M70 doesn't leave a nasty deflection crease on the case?
Actually the dings were minimal and almost non-existent on others. Brass was ejected about 10-14' when standing and not using the screen.

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Was able to get out to Burro yesterday and 29gr of CFE BLk seems be a good mix of accuracy and recoil on my M70. I'll probably narrow my loads between the mid 29's and high 28's.


I also ran some test loads of .357 mag on my 1892 and I was impressed with the H110 in the mid 14's.

More to come when time permits.
Nice,
I have settled on:

123gr. Sp or fmj.
28.8 CFE-BLK
Belom brass mostly.

1.25 MOA out of my Mini-30
Have not tried it yet in the SKS
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I don't use a 1050, or 1100. I use a Hornady. Which causes issues with using the Dillon Trim die set up. The 7.62x39(and the 300 BO) cases are too short for the Dillon Trim die to work in the Hornady. So, I have a cheap Lee press, with a ram extension, that I use for trimming the short rifle cases. Case gets sized, and deprived, on the Hornady, then goes over to the Lee/Dillon set up for second sizing and trimming.
As for loads, I am still working on that, but I'm giving serious consideration to using H322.
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