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Old 12-06-2018, 7:51 PM
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There is wholesale, private party value then retail.... if the OP is expecting retail, he is going to sit on it awhile.

Most buyers are not dumb. Most have access to the gun prices bible. You can buy it, borrow it at the library or read it at just about any gun shop. I donít know any gun shop that wouldnít use it as a reference point if they were to consider buying or taking it in on trade.
OP isn't even retail priced. It's straight highway robbery in my opinion waiting to snag a buyer who doesn't research.
CZ SP01 you can get it for 650 after taxes and Dros at retail.
http://www.ocguns.com/product/cz-usa-75b-9mm/
You still gotta pay for dros on his firearms.
There is no justification why his firearm costs almost 100 more, compared new to new.
I mean he did start a thread a year ago that CZ guns are going to be banned or something, that's the only false justification I see.

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Old 12-06-2018, 8:23 PM
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Anyone else notice how soft private sales have been ? I see some nice pieces at fair prices just sitting, unwanted. Perhaps past fears had the effect of pushing forward previous purchases that folks would have normally waited to make now.

Don't know, but it seems buying appetite is way down, not just on handguns, but also on rifles that utilize an external magazine, even rimfires. Galvin Newsom fears ?

FWIW.. this is an observation from a guy with several pieces for sale now.
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Old 12-06-2018, 8:39 PM
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OP isn't even retail priced. It's straight highway robbery in my opinion waiting to snag a buyer who doesn't research.
CZ SP01 you can get it for 650 after taxes and Dros at retail.
http://www.ocguns.com/product/cz-usa-75b-9mm/
You still gotta pay for dros on his firearms.
There is no justification why his firearm costs almost 100 more, compared new to new.
I mean he did start a thread a year ago that CZ guns are going to be banned or something, that's the only false justification I see.

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I didnít look, Iím just running off the comments. I agree, most customization doesnít do squat to firearms prices and in most cases hurt their prices because the gun bible of prices only references stock items or factory upgrades. Not aftermarket parts which some are not as good as claimed to be or as reliable as a stock part.

Now the OLL build, that is hard to price because there are a vast amount of decently built parts and accessories. But even still a 20 dollar budget China rail is still a cheap China rail. It works, gives the look you want but most know it wonít increase the price over a stock build.

Just giving that as an example. Most of us already know
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Old 12-06-2018, 8:58 PM
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This is the crux - are they really "fair priced?"

Most of what I've seen in classifieds is overpriced. Offering a Gen 4 Glock for $800 and Gen 3 for $450-$500 is a good example. Why would anyone who is looking for their first gun buy either? There is nothing special about Gen 4 and saving $50 on a used Gen 3 is a huge risk with all the bubba-smiths.
This....used guns are a bad deal, theyíre way, way overpriced. Buying new makes more sense. I love glocks but I wouldnít pay a Dime more for a gen 4 or gen 5. Why he heíll would you? I see used S&W that were new within the year sometimes asking more than retail or certainly more than you could get the same from Buds gun shop plus tax and a transfer fee...
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:28 PM
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Time to start stocking up on parts for 80% builds before they shut that off.
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:50 PM
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I get the OPs problem of over pricing, but Iím having a hard time selling a $2000 in parts rifle for $1200 thatís almost brand new. Yes itís an acquired caliber, but come on. 6.5 Grendel can shine!!
You've built YOUR dream rifle. Somebody gonna drop that kinda cash probably has their own idea of a dream rifle.
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:39 PM
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i've bought 3 guns is the last month and a half including my first and second SIG Sauer

i can honestly say, even living where there is no roster, i can't think of a firearm that i really want right now

even the second SIG was just an impulse buy
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Old 12-07-2018, 2:36 AM
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I think most of us are trying to get the F out since election . Housing here is crazy, people here are crazy, traffic is crazy , ammo license a joke. I even a saw a g42 for $550 I pssed on ( in my own city), that says a lot.
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Old 12-07-2018, 3:27 AM
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Everyone has covered the bases with all the deadlines.
When the government drops another deadline things will warm up again.
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Old 12-07-2018, 7:04 AM
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I get the OPs problem of over pricing, but Iím having a hard time selling a $2000 in parts rifle for $1200 thatís almost brand new. Yes itís an acquired caliber, but come on. 6.5 Grendel can shine!!
The problems are that the AR market is pretty much dead right now and the fact is that individual parts normally cost a lot more than a complete item. Have you ever priced all the parts to make a new car? They will typically come out to about 3 times what a complete car sells for new. It's not much different when it comes to custom built firearms.
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Old 12-07-2018, 8:39 AM
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If I find a store that will consign my gun at 10% to 15% and takes credit cards then my stuff will sell.This saves me time and money.Also helps the store.
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Gun sales have decline noticeably throughout country. They go up when gun control advocates in power, such as Obama, and decline when control threat eases, such as now. California is a special case because of pro-control Democratic dominance. I would guess that a lot if money is being spent now on ammo, which is cheap now relatively, in anticipation of new controls going into effect next month. Everyone I know has been stocking up.
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Old 12-09-2018, 10:09 AM
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Gun sales have decline noticeably throughout country. They go up when gun control advocates in power, such as Obama, and decline when control threat eases, such as now. California is a special case because of pro-control Democratic dominance. I would guess that a lot if money is being spent now on ammo, which is cheap now relatively, in anticipation of new controls going into effect next month. Everyone I know has been stocking up.
It's not next month, its July 2019
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Old 12-09-2018, 9:42 PM
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Market is super slow according to this thread

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1495063
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Old 12-10-2018, 8:48 AM
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Whatever you are selling is only worth what someone is willing to pay. Period.

My experience with CG market place is that while some firearms "may" be worth more today compared to what the owner originally paid for them, the reality is that they are worth less. If you really want to sell a firearm, price it to sell. If not, then it will sit and sit and sit a bit longer until you realize that your asking price (for whatever reason) is too high.
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Old 12-10-2018, 2:08 PM
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Iím stocking up on lots of ammo. Thatís where my pesoís have been going.
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Whatever you are selling is only worth what someone is willing to pay. Period.
The best way to find out what a firearm is worth is to put it up on gunbroker with a 99 cent starting price.
That low price will draw lots of bidders which will run the price right up to what the market supports.
I watch many gunbroker auctions end higher than you can buy a specific make/model of gun by simply shopping for the best deal.
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Old 12-10-2018, 5:35 PM
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For me, buying a new truck slows things down a bit.

But really nothing i see in FS is what I want...seems that most people are keeping these (what I like), or pricing me out...either way, probably a good thing at this point.

P.S. I still like (not board) the guns I own, so GTG.
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I'm still buying! Deals are everywhere.
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I filled up my safes before Trump was elected. Now Iím not looking to buy much here in CA as I am working on moving to TX within the next year. I canít wait to go to a gun store, slide my card and walk out with gun in hand.
But I still notice ridiculously overpriced handguns and long guns in the marketplace here. Often more than a gun costs new. I could drive over to my LGS and get many guns for less (KSGs seem to be among the worst for this) And thatís not including the insane price gouging that occurs with off-roster guns. There are a few good deals, but very few and far between. Also, So-Cal seems to be having better deals than up my way lately.
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Amazing, the small minded thinking that posts here sometimes
You're the one that has no concept of how the economy works. If you price an item, and nobody offers to buy it, then it's priced too high for the market. If you lower the price then, at some point, someone will buy it.

Sellers set the asking price, buyers set the selling price.

"small minded" thinking like yours makes me weep for our education system
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