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Digital Reloading Powder Scale
Hey guys,
I need some advice. I’m looking to buy an electronic powder scale and dispenser. I have narrowed down the choices to either a Hornady Lock & Load Powder Dispenser and Scale or a RCBS Charge Master. Both items are on sale right now but the RCBS model still cost 75% more than the Hornady model. Are the models comparable or is one model that much better than the other. I welcome your opinions. Thank you. |
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I have both and had 2 Lyman units. Hand down the best is the RCBS. I have the Lite version since I have no use for all the extras in the 1500
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I have the charge master. Works awesome. Use it for all my rifle loads and revolver loads that I make on my single stage press.
Haven’t used any other electronic dispenser - but no complaints with the RCBS. C Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Had the first gen Hornady powder drop. Hated it within the first 5 mins of using it. I ditched it after loading the first batch of rifle. Its terribly slow (or my process is too fast), it would over\under charge a lot. Which I don't get why it would under charge. If the number is under the target weight then it should keep dispensing right? Its like the software doesnt trust itself to continue.
I've been around numerous Charge Masters. The Lite is cool, easy, accurate, efficient, cost point. But the 1500 didnt make me want to drop the extra money. Straws mods, software mods, tweaking meh eff that. But for large throws and efficiency the dual thrower set up is good. I want to get the Match Master. But I think it depends on what type of powder your going to use, weight of the charges and the speed you want. The Hornady was waaaaay to slow for big charges and worse for small charges. Big charge for me is 75gr, average is 50-60gr and smaller is the 5.56 loads 25-30gr. The Hornady was terrible for all of them. I ended up getting a Lyman Gen6. It's been great and does leave some to be desired. Its a bit slow but faster than the Hornady, its more consistent, cost difference a few bucks less, negligeble, but I didn't want to take a sledgehammer to it like the Hornady...so yea another vote for Charge Master.
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the Hornady would over charge and so I had to redo it far too many times. It also did a few other goofy things. This was happening no matter how many adjustments were done. The RCBS is just plug in and go with seldom a problem
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I can't speak of all the ones on the market these days - I have been using a RCBS charge master for years... I don't even know what one it is because I bought it way before they offered the lite? or whatever it is they call it.
I've had it for so long now that I am probably spoiled & I can't imagine reloading without it and can't recommend it enough, but also can't explain what makes such an invaluable piece of kit... it just is. |
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Have you looked at the Frankfort Arsenal Intelidropper
https://ultimatereloader.com/2019/03...etup-overview/
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My Hornady display went out. They don't sell replacement parts.for.scales.
Bought a RCBS lite. Much better.
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bullseye powder left in it for a few weeks will eat away at the plastic don't ask how I know varget will not RCBS says that the pistol powders seem to be the worst offenders at eating away at the hopper. I asked: why don't you just make it out of the same plastic that the powder manufactures make the jugs out of?!?!?!?! little elbow grease and it's fully functional but lesson learned
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I had a Lyman electronic powder dispenser with scale, an RCBS Chargemaster lite now, 2 different Amazon electronic scales and an RCBS mechanical scale. They all read the same. Get a good quality one, prices generally don't dictate accuracy, TO A POINT. We are not talking pharmacy grade milligram resolution. Warm them up before use (15 minutes min) and make sure you have a very stable table. I also use a marble slab base I got as scrap. A solid base makes a world of difference for accuracy and repeatability. Keep electronics and light ballasts away from the scale. Be aware if you are near a roadway. Passing vehicles can cause problems. Good luck! |
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I am not kidding you guys every scale was different. They're all within the +\- 0.2 as stated but it was shocking that none could be the same. So I got a beam and guess what I learned, there can be variation in the beam based on the set up of the scale and subjectivity of the user. The reference lines have a thickness, its up to the user to decide if a skosh above or below is acceptable. I came to conclude that scales, just like published data, passed down data, and advice from the internet can only be guidelines or suggestions at best. People pick one and have to run with it, to have faith in whatever gear they're using and consistency is the key. Use a chrono to verify. Read brass, pay attention to bolt feel, how does sizing feel, how does primer pockets feel...anyways, just blabbing haaha. OP, hope you're getting some good information in this thread.
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I still use a Pact Digital Precision Powder scale from the mid 2000's, but have a full autotrickler setup on order because I've been putting it off for so long.
I think it works well enough. I warm it up for 30 min before use and I always calibrate it every weighing session and I always run check weights every 20 or so cartridges when I'm hand weighing my precision loads.
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You can use a case if it fits. The common mod is to shove a straw into the stem. Whatever work. The case idea definitely looks better haaha.
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Check out F class John reviews and others on YouTube. http://youtube.com/results?search_query=autotrickler+v3
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Its so worth it. I'm more accurate with a quicker weigh time.
Richard
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I use a Butler creek lenses flip cap for the trickler that fits tight.
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