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That said, that doesn't mean that WLP shouldn't be held accountable for any financial misdeeds that can be proven. But that is an issue with the individuals involved, not to be used as an excuse to attack the organization as a whole. Last edited by natman; 03-02-2021 at 3:32 PM.. |
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So you are an NRA Lifetime Member. How did you manage to get that by purposely dodging the $20 fee each year?
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There is no fee once you become a lifetime member. It's once and done.
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I don't need to prove myself more Green than Army Green to a bunch of hate filled fools. If you are the best that Wayne LaPierre has, than the NRA is doomed. |
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Clearly my sarcasm didn't translate well. I am on your side here. I was referring to the accusation that you weren't a member because you were avoiding the $20. You don't need to prove anything to me.
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I have only loosely followed this thread, and I'm too lazy to slog through the whole thing to see if this letter has already been posted.
Saw it today on Kahrtalk, and found it interesting. It's a quick read - 3-page letter from WLP to the NRA board: https://www.wsj.com/public/resources...article_inline |
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ja308 has to be a paid NRA shill. No one can be that blind to the NRA’s failures. The NRA is a much better self promoter than they are defender of the 2A. The NRA hasn’t even been able to undo the damage it’s done the 2A, yet people still think they are going to fix anything.
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It should be noted that WLP has not and will not be charged with any crime. However when dealing with fake news fools. Its not innocent until proven guilty, its more like guilty and allow no evidence of innocence ever. This is because the Anti Gun media has these simple minded, easily tricked, easily led drones, thought processes wrapped around their axle and no amount of evidence will be considered. As an aside we heard Col North speak at the NRA prayer breakfast. I commented to my GF that I never trusted Col North, but would be happy to be wrong of my assessment. Last edited by ja308; 03-03-2021 at 3:21 PM.. |
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Actually your post proven neither of you are NRA members !
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Folks, let's be careful. We've been down this road a number of times since 2019.
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ja308 keeps invoking Kestryll as 'proof' that LaPierre is trusted. Fine. But, he needs to bear in mind what Kestryll also said back in 2019... Quote:
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No. I'm not a moderator and I don't pretend to speak for TPTB. But, we have been there, done this, several times on this very topic. The bottom line is... Quote:
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That doesn't make those with questions/concerns traitors or universally so. In fact, some of them did the 'honorable' or 'reasonable' thing and left when they found the NRA no longer represented their views, with a few of those starting their own organizations, some of which are readily recognizable and that a few, even fanatical NRA members also belong to... Quote:
Neither is any organization dependent on a single individual. Well, at least they shouldn't be. Remember what the NRA has said over the last 30 or so years. WE are the NRA, not LaPierre, Cox, or any number of other individuals. Last edited by TrappedinCalifornia; 03-03-2021 at 5:55 PM.. |
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Now if the OP did not mandate WLP resign and denigrate him as an" old white man" and if others had not echoed similar and even worse demonization of him. It might not have been so heated. I say might because at least 5 on this board are NOT NRA members or even RKBA advocates, but media fed democrats who sincerely believe one can keep an open mind when dealing with ANTI GUN entities. A position that can only destroy all rights guaranteed by the bill of rights ! As an aside I just received my new NRA leather jacket and it like everything the NRA does it is 1st Class ! My only regret is that I ordered a size to fit my GF ! I sure would like to have it as my own! |
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Last week at the CMP Spring Games, I talked to the CMP lady about registering my Smallbore Prone matches with the CMP. I have contact information and I am going to to it. Last weekend, as I shot in a CMP registered 2700 Match, one of the Club Match Directors just mentioned that she had just received an email from the NRA offering Instructor Training (I think it was Instructor Training). Anyway she just rolled her eyes, and we both interpreted this as another NRA fund raising effort. Given the impending NRA bankruptcy, just not certain that these certifications will mean anything in the future. |
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The NYAG ran for office on the political promise of destroying the NRA. Please ALL..............Remember that the very same self avowed enemies of the NRA. Are self avowed enemies of YOUR RKBA. Their overall goal is to kill the 2A. These multiple attacks on the NRA. Are just an incremental stepping stone in their journey to do so. |
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Friends we should never miss an opportunity to encourage NRA membership to freedom loving people.
I personally know of 4 people who are not gun owners but keep an active NRA membership. That said there are people who are so argumentative, disagreeable and easily led, that having them as NRA members is not a good idea. Those types should be discouraged from joining the NRA and should be offered alternatives, where they will find lame excuses to not to join any other gun rights group either. |
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/nra-to-...es-11616940001
For those of you who do not subscribe... The National Rifle Association says it is ready to aggressively lobby against federal and state gun-control measures being considered in the wake of recent mass shootings in Georgia and Colorado, even as it remains in bankruptcy and beset by lawsuits and investigations into its business practices. Beset by inner turmoil, the five million-member gun-rights group has lost employees and some funding, and its expenditures on lobbying and political campaigns have declined in recent years. Yet membership has picked up this year amid a continuing rise in gun purchases, with more than 1,000 new dues-paying members signing up online every day, the group says, a surge it attributes to fears of stricter federal controls from a Democratic-led Washington. President Biden said Sunday that he is prepared to call Republican senators to press for legislation that would expand background checks. The cover of the January issue of a magazine for NRA members features a grinning Mr. Biden, with the tease, “Biden thinks he has a mandate to take away your rights.” Elected officials who have long supported the group still do. Mike Pompeo, a possible Republican presidential candidate, cut an NRA video this month that begins, “I’m Mike Pompeo, fellow NRA member and former secretary of state.” “The NRA hasn’t lost a beat,” said NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam. “The simple fact is no other organization can move the ball in Congress and move the ball in the states when it comes to continuing to improve gun rights, hunting rights and self-defense laws like the NRA. People realize that.” John Feinblatt, president of Everytown for Gun Safety, said he believes the gun group’s influence has waned as scandals around it have proliferated. “With the NRA preoccupied by its own survival, we have a unique opportunity to address America’s gun crisis, and we need to seize that moment,” he said. Sen. Chris Murphy (D., Conn.) said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that the NRA’s internal issues have given pro-gun control lawmakers a boost of confidence. “I’ve gotten a lot of calls from Republicans in the Senate who don’t want to fight this fight any longer because the NRA’s authority is fading, the anti-gun-violence movement’s impact is increasing.” Other lawmakers said the NRA’s decadeslong no-compromise approach to opposing any new gun-control measures has penetrated so deeply into the Republican Party over the past few decades that lobbying on individual federal bills is less necessary. “A weakened NRA is certainly helpful, but the gun industry writ large is still powerful. So long as the Republicans are more scared of upsetting the far-right gun lobby than they are of the American people, they will continue to oppose any reform,” said Sen. Bob Menendez, a New Jersey Democrat. After a 21-year-old killed eight people at Atlanta-area spas and another 21-year-old killed 10 people at a grocery store in Boulder, Colo., Democratic lawmakers renewed their call for universal background checks and a ban of assault-style weapons. Mr. Menendez and Rep. Barbara Lee (D., Calif.) also reintroduced bicameral legislation that would improve the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ ability to access and disclose to local authorities gun records and gun-tracing data. But the slim Democratic majority in the Senate means any of those bills—all opposed by the NRA—would likely be blocked by a Republican filibuster even if all 50 Senate Democrats supported them, which wouldn’t be a certainty. Mr. Biden is exploring executive actions that could tighten gun control but also stressed at a recent news conference that his administration has other priorities, such as infrastructure. The renewed focus on gun control comes as the nation’s largest and oldest gun-rights group is back on its heels financially and legally. New York Attorney General Letitia James filed a civil lawsuit in August seeking to dissolve the organization, alleging widespread spending abuses at the nonprofit. Arguing that it wants to escape a “corrupt political and regulatory environment” in New York, the NRA in January filed for bankruptcy protection and said it hoped to move to Texas after being domiciled in New York for its 150-year history. Hearings on key motions that will determine the course of the bankruptcy are scheduled to start April 5. Meanwhile, the group has been racked by internal boardroom feuds since early 2019. Board members have raised questions over expenses by top officials including Chief Executive Officer Wayne LaPierre, who has denied wrongdoing but last year repaid the NRA about $300,000 related to allegedly excessive travel benefits. In bankruptcy filings, the NRA reported that fundraising troubles during the pandemic fueled a revenue drop of 7% in 2020, on top of a 17% decline in 2019. The group’s legal expenses have soared in recent years, with the NRA embroiled in civil litigation with its former ad agency, a congressional probe and the New York attorney general investigation. And the NRA has doubled down on litigation across the country to swat away state and local gun-control measures. That has left less money for lobbying and campaign spending. “If you spend one dollar on litigation, it’s a dollar that could be spent on something else,” said NRA general counsel John Frazer in a recent deposition in the bankruptcy case. Lobbying expenditures dropped from more than $5 million in each of 2017 and 2018 to $3.2 million in 2019 and $2.2 million last year, lobbying disclosure reports show. The NRA’s spending on federal elections declined last year to $29 million from $54 million in 2016, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. But that is still the second-most it has ever spent in an election cycle, the data show. At the same time, the NRA has lost ground in the Democratic Party, as reflected in shifts in its grading system of electoral candidates. Just a lone Democratic candidate for U.S. House or Senate last year had received the NRA’s “A” grade—defined by the group as “solidly pro-gun”—as of shortly before the November election, while a decade earlier more than a quarter of Democratic House or Senate candidates received A grades. Despite the NRA’s financial woes, Republican consultants and lobbyists contend the group’s clout hasn’t taken much of a hit, because it maintains a core group of members who can be energized to vote and write politicians on gun issues. “It’s not about the cash, it’s about the votes” the NRA can deliver to political candidates, said a lobbyist on Second Amendment issues. Mr. LaPierre said in February at the American Conservative Union’s annual conference, also attended by former President Donald Trump, “You can no more kill the NRA than you can stop the sun from rising in the east.” Write to Julie Bykowicz at julie.bykowicz@wsj.com and Mark Maremont at mark.maremont@wsj.com
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"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin NRA life member CRPA member |
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/own-guns-...100000414.html Read "a machine with one purpose". I hesitate to discard anyone however that Mr. Coffey doesn't get to write "and I'm an NRA member" is a positive.
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Fort Worth Star-Telegram
"I own guns for protection. Everyday Americans should not be allowed to have AR-15s" Typical communist newspaper knowing full well the above statement is a total lie! I would suggest this newspaper lose its 1st amendment protection! |
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NRA-ILA Lawmaker Contact Tool “When you want to kill a man, you must shoot for the heart and the Winchester is the best weapon." -Ramon, A Fistful of Dollars Quote:
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My exact thought ! Although I'm certain he already knows this and the idea is IF they can get the AR they can get the mini 14 and everything else thats a larger caliber than 223.
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It wasn't so long ago (actually it was, I'm getting old) that his 38 Special revolver was on the chopping block. "Only one reason for handguns" was the refrain. Mr. Hodges should be reminded of that, and that his revolver annually is used to kill many dozens times more than the AR.
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I'll slip this in here without opining, but simply pointing out that this was said, in court and it's not simply some 'fake news' made up by the media. Yes. There is likely spin as I haven't seen the entirety of the deposition. But, bear in mind that this is LaPierre saying it.
‘Thank God I’m safe’: NRA head Wayne LaPierre sought refuge from public outrage aboard luxury yacht after mass school shootings at Sandy Hook, Parkland, Fla. Quote:
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Whether or not he should have used his buddy’s yacht, I don’t doubt he was under genuine threat at the time.
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Ja 308
This ain't Bloomberg https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/nr...Ho8GSdWdcZf7ps Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Our money donated to support gun rights was used to support a lifestyle of the rich and famous. That’s fraud.
We need new leadership at the NRA.
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It means they want YOU disarmed and under a form of government that rule's with an iron fist, led by genocidal masters who know how to get things done. https://www.mrc.org/commentary/over-...d-george-soros Last edited by ja308; 04-27-2021 at 10:05 AM.. |
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