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Old 02-23-2019, 12:02 PM
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So that member that asked if it came with the oringal box (which there was a photo of in the thread), was really just upset that I was asking too much?
I discovered at one point that most of the numbnuts that kept asking me about things that were clearly visible in photos, or stated in bold letters were only accessing Calguns through "Tapa-Talk" so they could neither see the photos or even certain fonts.

Even worse, one dick went so far as to report my sales-thread to a mod for not having posted a price when it was clearly there more than once, in big, bold letters, which really ticked me off. He simply could not see it to his own fault for accessing Calguns on a limited capacity of non-HTML/text-only reading.

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Old 02-23-2019, 1:41 PM
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I could care less about the target, but if it has a box, I want it.
There is a photo of the original box in the photo, so why would someone ask if it comes with the original box?


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...Would you not ask questions when buying a used car? Of course you would!

I am not saying don't ask questions, what I've experienced is that those that ask questions, tend not to purchase, that's all. Your milage may vary.

Yesterday I sold a Glock, it sold within 2 hours of listing (with no photos I may ad) and I had 2 others that wanted it as well. No Photos, No questions, and what I thought was a steep price. It sold.

Not sure we have resolved any thing here except there are still many people that like to waste peoples time, with no intention of purchasing regardless of price, photos or cost.
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Old 02-23-2019, 5:16 PM
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Thread has made most interesting points. Providing additional specific pictures does prove that you actually have the item for sale. Never thought of that because I don't think of scamming people.

If it's a good deal, questions or caution may cause someone else to get the deal first.
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Old 02-23-2019, 11:39 PM
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Some people are better at writing more complete listings than others. We've all seen people post thing without really basic information too; location, asking price, finish etc..

If, you write thorough description, there's not a lot of need for further questions.

I have had people actually buy things after they've asked questions. But in most cases it was information I probably should have have included in my post and simply neglected to do so.

People ask questions before they spend money. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
I agree. I usually go far above and beyond in my description, the few times I have sold and each time other than logistics it is a done deal.
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Old 02-23-2019, 11:48 PM
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Here is a current gun I have for sale. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1510461 (this is how I typically write my posts).

I was PM'd and asked if it came with the original box/target. Seriously? Why even ask that questions?
That's a legitimate question, your item there is a collectible, so for collector value people want the original package of accessories from the factory. If it was a Glock produced last year, nobody is going to care. But if its a 30 year old pistol, made in a country that no longer exists, the package of items affects the value.

I bet if you had listed your W. German Sig at $400, you would get almost no questions via PM but 3 "I'll take it"s in the first 4 minutes of your post, followed by "Seconds" "Thirds" "aw what the heck, fourths" and a locked thread by Kestryll. So economics is definitely at play here with your anecdotal experience.


Anyway, if you browse the listings here, you will see tons of sellers who fail to put basic information like their location, round count or age of gun, whether it works or not, what modifications have been done, if it's ever been to the gunsmith, are they the original owner, etc but I definitely know what you are saying, like someone else mentioned above there are always going to be tire-kickers and flakes.
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Old 02-24-2019, 5:44 AM
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I was looking at an ad two days ago that had multiple guns listed, and said to text for photos. The seller had one that I am very interested in obtaining.

So I text for photos.

Seller says, "It's my grandpas gun, I don't have it in my possession, and don't have pictures. But it is new and in like new condition".

I won't bother asking this seller any more questions.
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Old 02-24-2019, 8:16 AM
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I was looking at an ad two days ago that had multiple guns listed, and said to text for photos. The seller had one that I am very interested in obtaining.

So I text for photos.

Seller says, "It's my grandpas gun, I don't have it in my possession, and don't have pictures. But it is new and in like new condition".

I won't bother asking this seller any more questions.
We need a separate thread on this. I don't put a lot of pics but people that put none sure like wasting their time as well as yours. Many times a few simple pics will save that hassle especially when their sales post is vague.

Many times I won't even bother asking. And I also have about 50 people on my ignore list roughly half due to games played on the marketplace.

I also have noticed this phenomenon of many questions usually not translating in to a sale. I think many do it because makes them feel important or knowledgeable but yet they actually don't have the funds or ability to actually buy.
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Old 02-24-2019, 8:38 AM
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I've sold a few guns on CalGuns forum. I noticed a distinctive pattern regarding members that buy, vs those that don't. In a nut shell:

"People who ask questions don't buy, people that buy don't ask questions."

I once had a member send me over 10 pm's, in the end no sale. I've also noticed that members that actually buy state they'll take it (or they will make a strong offer).

I have yet to see a member ask a/multiple questions and then actually make a purchase. Maybe it's just me?
Yes. When I have bought things here it's usually something I want. I'll post an "I'll take it" and seal the deal so as not to lose the deal. Of course, it seems some things used to "fly off the shelves" so to speak and if you waited too long you probably were out of luck.
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Old 02-24-2019, 8:48 AM
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We need a separate thread on this....I also have noticed this phenomenon of many questions usually not translating in to a sale. I think many do it because makes them feel important or knowledgeable but yet they actually don't have the funds or ability to actually buy.
I thought it was just me.

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Old 02-24-2019, 9:24 AM
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I've had questions and ended up buying something before, but in such cases it's usually only a few questions and I ask them all at once.

Someone who wants to buy knows what they need to know and can ask up front for any missing information they require.

Someone who goes back and forth with you one question at a time is just looking for a reason /not/ to buy it. Some people just seem to enjoy being shopping for something without buying it. All the thrill of convincing themselves they're going to make an exciting purchase without any of the cost of actually making it.
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Old 02-24-2019, 9:37 AM
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I don't mind questions. What bugs me is we have a deal and a place to transfer then ask if I take PayPal which I always list I DON'T, then they back out.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:33 AM
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I exchanged three phone calls and countless text messages with someone. I even agreed to hold the firearm for a week after he said he wanted it. in the end he called me and told me his wife wouldn't let him.

I'll never do that again. The OP hit it right on the head. Buyers know exactly what they want and don't ask questions.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:55 AM
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I knew what I was looking for and what I was willing to pay for it. When I saw a price a few hundred bucks less than I had seen it offered previously, I jumped on it. BNIB. Only question was where do you want to meet.

I have seen quite a few for sale items , both pistols and related gear listed at a price that is equal or higher for what you could purchase it for new. They sit for months with no takers. That seems foolish. Price it to sell if it's used, not higher than what you could buy a new one for. I always google or search to compare prices. The good deals usually go quickly.
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Old 02-24-2019, 2:16 PM
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I have seen quite a few for sale items , both pistols and related gear listed at a price that is equal or higher for what you could purchase it for new. They sit for months with no takers. That seems foolish. Price it to sell if it's used, not higher than what you could buy a new one for. I always google or search to compare prices. The good deals usually go quickly.
Outstanding post.

After about 5 seconds of thinking further, why doesn't Calguns simply delete FS ads after 60 days, or preferably less??
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There is a photo of the original box in the photo, so why would someone ask if it comes with the original box?



Folks want a picture of the SKU / manufacturer's sticker I reckon. To make sure the box matches.
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Outstanding post.

After about 5 seconds of thinking further, why doesn't Calguns simply delete FS ads after 60 days, or preferably less??
Because seeing that one guy trying to sell the 91/30 he stuck in a plastic stock for $325 every time I look in the long arms section for the last 11 months warms my heart a little and makes me feel like at least some things in life won't change.

It's an unmoving piece of the landscape now and it would pain me to see it gone.

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I knew what I was looking for and what I was willing to pay for it. When I saw a price a few hundred bucks less than I had seen it offered previously, I jumped on it. BNIB. Only question was where do you want to meet.

I have seen quite a few for sale items , both pistols and related gear listed at a price that is equal or higher for what you could purchase it for new. They sit for months with no takers. That seems foolish. Price it to sell if it's used, not higher than what you could buy a new one for. I always google or search to compare prices. The good deals usually go quickly.
LOL. Last year (I think) someone wanted around $400.00 for a Jennings or Raven. Several people couldn't resist making fun of it.
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Old 02-24-2019, 4:26 PM
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I'll just throw out there that sometimes people are asking questions to get a feelig about YOU.( are you a scam artist? Do you actually have the product? Are you going to be easy to work with etc..) If you answer in short, vague or rude way, that tells them something.

or conversely maybe you are actually listening to the specific question and answering it in the best way possible.

I actually agree to an extent with what you're saying OP, I'm just saying those first one or two questions AND answers say a lot.
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For me as mostly a buyer . I will ask the seller to give me a call.. and ask all my questions all at once .Never really liked doing it over a bunch of PM's..Usually buy the time i have sent a PM I already know that i am going to buy (for firearms ). Parts i usually just post " i'll take it ".. Don't want to waste anyone's time .. And if the buyer does not call ,i will move on .Figure if they really do want to sell ,they could take the time to call . I am an old guy and still have a Rotary phone in my office
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Big difference between "I'll take it" and "I'm interested"
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Outstanding post.

After about 5 seconds of thinking further, why doesn't Calguns simply delete FS ads after 60 days, or preferably less??
Probably because then the seller would start a new thread, which clutters up the for sale section more as it looks like a new listing. As a buyer, I’d rather see a thread with 60 replies (which are clearly 60 days worth of “bumps”) as then I know to avoid clicking that for sale thread because the gun is most certainly overpriced. I typically only click on salethreads with less than 10 replies.
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I don't waste time sending pms asking a ton of questions, I save my pms for the negotiation. But in .40 s&w it's a buyer's market. I also don't pm unless I'm genuinely interested in buying the gun.
Definitely gotten some good deals on off roster stuff here just because it's 40
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