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Per title. What makes the triggers so nice?
Is there a nicer trigger?
Have to say even my cheapo ria trigger isn't so bad. Wish it had less travel, and take up but overall nice and crisp.
The Colt gm is a little too light lol.


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Most triggers pivot. The 1911 slides.
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There is only one action, and it ain’t double, or striker fired, or any of that other stuff.
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Most triggers pivot. The 1911 slides.
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There is only one action, and it ain’t double, or striker fired, or any of that other stuff.
It's such a sweet trigger for sure.
I do have a Glock with trigger work. Short reset, and almost no travel. But it ain't a 1911 trigger. Omg how I missed the 1911. Sold mine off years ago. Never realized how nice of a trigger.

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Because it's a 1911 lol
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Because it's a 1911 lol
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Because it's a 1911 lol
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Because that’s how John Browning designed them !
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Not all of them are nice. I tried stock sub-$1000 guns and most of them aint good. Dan wesson and Baer or better, the we start talking.
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Every time I pull a striker fired trigger, I think of a pinball machine…
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Not all of them are nice. I tried stock sub-$1000 guns and most of them aint good. Dan wesson and Baer or better, the we start talking.
Well tbh, my new ria isn't that bad.
Springfield is better.
Colt gm is really a joy to shoot.

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Best part is if you don't like your RIA trigger feel, upgrade the internals and it will shoot as nice as your Colt gm.
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Because it is a metal gun…and not plastic!

I am a 1911 fan boy….and have found that nice or semi custom 1911s cost more, but they also take the time to fit the parts rather than just assemble them…hence a smoothness of fitment. Get what you pay for…or something like that.
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Best part is if you don't like your RIA trigger feel, upgrade the internals and it will shoot as nice as your Colt gm.
I am tempted. Trying to justify 150.00 for the ria, and it will still have the small sights.
Maybe try a trigger before the whole, sear, disco, and spring kit? It's mostly the long travel on the ria before stacking. But it's not that bad for a inexpensive 1911. So far the ria is pretty reliable.

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Probably the biggest single feature and advantage of the 1911 design is it's generally good to great trigger.
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My Delta GC has the best trigger in my stable, Better than my Wilson's, NHC no bull the travel is extremely smooth.
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Well tbh, my new ria isn't that bad.
Springfield is better.
Colt gm is really a joy to shoot.
I dream of a day I hold my first Colt 1911 in my hands. As a victim of CA roster law, I have not had a chance to try out a Colt 1911. Everyone needs a Colt 45, right? I am just afraid when that day comes, Colt is no longer Colt and their 1911s go the way their M4s did.
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I dream of a day I hold my first Colt 1911 in my hands. As a victim of CA roster law, I have not had a chance to try out a Colt 1911. Everyone needs a Colt 45, right? I am just afraid when that day comes, Colt is no longer Colt and their 1911s go the way their M4s did.
I was lucky to get a Colt from a member here. Gold cup national match, stainless. Yes the trigger is that good. Imagine a trigger, with almost no travel, slight stack and boom.. Reset is so short. Travel is maybe quarter inch maybe less? The colts come up every now and then in the marketplace. Fortunately I paid less than a grand. Very rare for Cali.

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Just bought a SA Emissary 9mm, and the trigger feels great out of the box. Same with the Kimber Custom II .45 I picked up a few weeks prior.

I really do like the feel of the 1911 format, the sight line, and the feel of the trigger pull. Those are my first two, but likely won’t be my last.
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I think the 1911 trigger is only fighting the sear spring section that also pushes against the trigger shoe. The trigger never has to push against the main spring for the hammer or the sear.

A Glock trigger pushes against a safety spring, a trigger spring and a firing pin spring, plus all the tolerance issues that come with.
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I dream of a day I hold my first Colt 1911 in my hands. As a victim of CA roster law, I have not had a chance to try out a Colt 1911. Everyone needs a Colt 45, right? I am just afraid when that day comes, Colt is no longer Colt and their 1911s go the way their M4s did.
I have a Colt 1911 for you for sale lol
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What ever happened to our gunsmith members. Enjoyed their informative pics and posts. Brett and the other guy?
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I think the 1911 trigger is only fighting the sear spring section that also pushes against the trigger shoe. The trigger never has to push against the main spring for the hammer or the sear.
Partially correct. The trigger pushes on the disconnect and the middle leg of the leaf spring. The disconnect pushes on the sear which is in contact with the left leg of the leaf spring. The sear does have to overcome the friction generated from the hammer and mainspring. This is only correct for the Series 70.

Series 80 has a firing pin block which the trigger has to overcome, making it not as nice. Kimber uses the grip safety to push the firing pin block.

Most modern semi-auto pistols have a firing pin block which is the largest contributor of a long trigger pull and higher weight.
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Not to mention that making changes to the 1911 trigger feel is a relatively simple process (well, relatively Bullseye shooters and gunsmiths who build bullseye pistols can have their triggers crisp or roll (short, medium, long), you can adjust the sear spring to some extent, have your trigger pull as low as 2.5 lbs, or go all the way up to 4 lbs (which is required by the CMP service pistol rules).

Yes, there are nicer triggers out there, mostly in competition pistols designed for ISSF sports. For example, Pardini SP, the trigger is fantastic, and can be adjusted in every possible way.
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Well tbh, my new ria isn't that bad.
Springfield is better.
Colt gm is really a joy to shoot.

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My RIA Match is noticeably better than my Springfield Loaded Target, but they are both good triggers. I am not a huge fan of 1911 resets I have shot though. Dollar for dollar you get a better trigger on an RIA IMHO. I'm sure if you buy a GI model you may get a trigger that could be beat by a $1000 SA.
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Because that’s how John Browning designed them !
...and JMB was a freaking genius when it came to designing firearms.

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Per title. What makes the triggers so nice?
Is there a nicer trigger?
Have to say even my cheapo ria trigger isn't so bad. Wish it had less travel, and take up but overall nice and crisp.
The Colt gm is a little too light lol.


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Anything nicer? Get a C&S Ultra Match Hammer/Sear/Disco set and have it fitted by a 1911 gunsmith. You’ll be like
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...and JMB was a freaking genius when it came to designing firearms.

Boss level genius
Don't think that anyone can disagree with that statement
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Per title. What makes the triggers so nice?
Is there a nicer trigger?
Have to say even my cheapo ria trigger isn't so bad. Wish it had less travel, and take up but overall nice and crisp.
The Colt gm is a little too light lol.


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Also if you think a 1911 trigger is nice, try a p210 trigger. Only service gun with a better trigger than a 1911
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Because they have had over 100 years to prefect them?

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Most triggers pivot. The 1911 slides.
Great answer.

The average 1911 trigger pull is 4 pounds. Of course you can go lighter but you will lose reliability eventually. My 1911s are SD/HD so I stay at 4#.
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Not all of them are nice. I tried stock sub-$1000 guns and most of them aint good. Dan wesson and Baer or better, the we start talking.
You are comparing a '95 Camry to a Corvette.

Most people will never get the NRA Distinguished Pistol Badge or try for a once inch group at 50 yards (150 feet).

A Rock Island 1911 GI is perfect for most people for Home Defense if they want a 45 ACP.
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Well tbh, my new ria isn't that bad.
Springfield is better.
Colt gm is really a joy to shoot.

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The Rock is not bad but my Colt Gold Cup was my Grail gun.
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A nicer trigger?
If there is, perhaps only on a SA wheelgun.
When I got bit by the 1911 bug, that's what I was wanting to experience.
My bank account suffered.
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Not all of them are nice. I tried stock sub-$1000 guns and most of them aint good. Dan wesson and Baer or better, the we start talking.
Agreed, but I would not overlook Kimber, which are typically over $1K but some hundreds less than DWs and Baers. I have some of each and my Kimbers shoot very well; as accurate as the others. But I am the limiting factor on all.

Given all this agreement about how nice 1911 triggers are in this thread, I'm surprised they don't seem to be as popular as the other types here, including strikers. This is also evident in the marketplace where off roster 1911's don't go for as much over their original selling price as off roster strikers. (But maybe that's because of a couple of round higher cap than most 1911s offer. Or younger people just like plastic toys. )
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