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Old 09-01-2022, 5:28 PM
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Can anyone tell me what business it is of the police department whether I have guns in the house or not? That was a question on my alarm permit application where I live. They didn't ask if I have bows & arrows, attack dogs, explosives, or moonshine-making equipment.
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Why do you need an 'alarm permit'? And what is that anyway? I have a professionally installed and maintained alarm at my office; never needed a 'permit'.
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When we were stuck in California the alarm permit was just a yearly fee that had a two false alarm stipulation that after two in a year they would charge you a fee. When we moved and had a false alarm the local PD came out. I asked them about their false alarm policy and alarm permit.

The officer said “ you moved from California didn’t you?”::::when I said yes he said “your not in California anymore we don’t charge an alarm permit fee and we come out on every and any alarms false or not no charge.
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Old 09-01-2022, 5:45 PM
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I never pay the alarm permit fee.
I have a 3-5 min armed response and THEY, call the police not the alarm company.
If I’m home and it goes off I call 911 and tell them to send the police and an ambulance to collect the body.
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Old 09-01-2022, 6:08 PM
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My new alarm company said they won't call the cops if I don't have one. The city permit is free.
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Of I was a PD person, I would want to know if the burglar might be arming themselves. Might make me get there faster, too.
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Like a Calif Guard card, Alarm cards are for those who sell and install alarms in Calif. It should be none of there business and I'll bet you could sue under 4th and 5th Ammendment concerns.
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Like a Calif Guard card, Alarm cards are for those who sell and install alarms in Calif. It should be none of there business and I'll bet you could sue under 4th and 5th Ammendment concerns.
Los Angeles (and I'm sure some other cities) require an alarm permit if you have an alarm system in your house. I think it's specific to monitored systems where the police get called. If the police get called to your house by the alarm company and you don't have a permit, you get a nice fine.

I suppose the gun question is so that when the police respond, they know that the person holding a gun is definitely the bad guy, or if it might be the homeowner. I can see here where the information would be helpful to all involved. It should be a optional question though.
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Of I was a PD person, I would want to know if the burglar might be arming themselves. Might make me get there faster, too.

Why would anyone assume someone who broke into a home was unarmed?

If the home owner said they don't have guns on the permit application then you'd assume someone who tripped the alarm was unarmed?

Then on top of that, someone who doesn't have a gun today can't have one tomorrow?

Why would the information make you get there faster?

Answering the question establishes a sort of gun ownership registration database does it not? If the homeowner doesn't have guns but their guests do, then what? Who holds the information and for how long? How is the information valid seconds after the application is completed? If the owner moves, what happens to the gun ownership record?




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Its so when they get a call to your house. And your not home. They know not to leave your house. With out taking and securing your guns and ammo.
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El Cajon requires a permit, it is free, no question on the application about firearms.
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Its so when they get a call to your house. And your not home. They know not to leave your house. With out taking and securing your guns and ammo.
My guns are very secure whenever I leave the house, even for a few minutes.
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