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Yeah, but who is the duck? We know exactly where to shoot to hit the driver. The people manning the roadblock will be dispersed, and concealed to some degree.
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ETA: NVM just need some friends Last edited by God Bless America; 11-26-2018 at 7:36 PM.. |
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Start by buying a Mini-14.
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Chuckle all you want, but even though all the neighbors have a wide variety of semi auto rifles, the mini-14 is the go to for our rural community.
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IMO, this is a significant oversight given the location and the planned evac route. If you can travel off road it opens up many other options in that part of the world. In this situation I'd probably be planning the off road route as my primary evac route.
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Its clear you have never tried to stop a moving vehicle with a rifle, especially when they are shooting back. Its not like the movies.
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This is another one of those “I watch too much of “The Walking Dead” threads.
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I like them just fine, but the mere mention of them gives some people apoplectic fits. My bad, though - it's ChuckDizzle who hates them, not ChuckD.
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I don't want to be on either side if a roadblock shootout; but if I must pick, I would not choose to be the driver. Would you? Last edited by God Bless America; 11-28-2018 at 10:09 AM.. |
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Nope, had 4 children served in combat roles in Iraq and Afghanistan. Two of them still serve in combat roles.
Although my sons James Abrams M1A2 never had a problem on the giving and receiving end his brother had people killed in his company by car mounted bombs they couldn't stop in time. They hated check point duty due to the danger. They never knew when people would just drive up and start shooting. Just setting up a safe check point where they were able to make cars and trucks slow down took days to construct. Follow the posted rules coming up to the check point or die. They really hated people on motorcycles. They never set up without armor, either Abrams and or a couple Bradley's with Tow missiles. They were always getting shot at from all sides. |
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Don't be such an ***. Some people can't have kids... and before you say it, adoption isn't possible for everyone. You buy a puppy, raise it, feed it, clean it, clean up after it, train it, & love it. That's pretty damn close to having a child (all except the buying part)
I have 2 kids & 2 German Shepherds. There are many days I prefer my German Shepherds I would take risks to save them... though maybe not to the extreme I would to save my wife & children.
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In an ambush, you will likely be shooting as cover fire or at multiple targets. All it takes is one ambusher who is confident enough not to duck when shots fly to make a good shot.
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If you're in SoCal when TEOTWAWKI hits you ain't getting out via any roads. So unless you have a helo in your backyard, or live right next to the airport and own a plane there, you need to just hunker down where you are. You've got everything you need there; everyone else is in an exit panic.
Your scenario assumes an open highway with a roadblock ahead. The reality is that you won't be the only one on the road. There will be (literally) millions of others with the same mindset as you-panic. If you attempt to escape on the highway, you'll die along with those millions.
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It's much easier while stationary behind cover and concentrate your fire on a 5' wide target moving towards you than shooting at dispersed multiple targets across several lanes of roadway from a moving vehicle.
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HAHAHAHAHAA! I'd like to see someone throw a steel pipe in that wheel & see what happens.
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In other news, I'm out
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I have a Ruger Ranch Rifle, I wouldn't say it's the best rifle I have, but it's not the worst either.
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In that sort of world, I wonder what the fortitude for manning a road block 24 / 7 is. I would think it would be at its weakest between 3am and 6am (that would be the best time to travel anyway I think).
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There are now semi-affordable drones that have flight times of 30 minutes. Assuming you are traveling slow at say 30mph in this area that means a battery every 15 miles. Have enough batteries and you can scout ahead of your car through troubled areas.
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Just flash you Tribal Elder Card and get waived on through.
Don't have a Tribal Elders Card??? Then coming on the Rez during SHTF is a real bad idea.
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Easy, if you are male, fat, ugly and you look poor "not very well equipt" they won't bother you. So be fat ugly and poor.
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As to the OP,
If I was able to see it they were able to see me; not good. I'd turn around and try to get as far away as I could back. If I could find a space that seemed safe some distance back I'd stop and then hike up to get a good field view of the roadblock and watch what happens to others going through it. Because I'd assume they saw my vehicle I'd try to change its appearance some how, hide valuables that I need, and prepare a fair payment for their passage (assuming I saw others pass). Ride up, treat with respect, pay up and politely ask to move along. Be prepared for SHTF if it doesn't happen I'll make it easier on the next guy by taking a couple of them with me. |
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OP here.
Thanks for all the perspectives. Even the guy with the dogs, cause knowing there's folks out there that will kill you for pets while we have law and order, just imagine how things will change when there's no 911 to call. |
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In the scenario described a single vehicle is dead meat long before you meet the roadblock.
If you want to go traveling, form a convoy with other vehicles fleeing Armageddon. The main convoy should never get to a roadblock because you have scouts out ahead and above on the high ground. The convoy may have to move in fits and starts while the scouts clear the route of travel. While the convoy waits, it laagers in a suitable location that is not dominated by high ground. The scouts can check for routes around the roadblock or negotiate for passage. If your group is ambushed, don't stop to shoot back, drive like hell through the kill zone and then flank and assault. If your group is stopped by disabled vehicles or barriers, assault into the ambush. Or, don't leave home to begin with. Being a refugee group, even armed, is usually a losing proposition. Last edited by smle-man; 12-21-2018 at 8:42 PM.. |
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You’re kind of comparing apples to oranges. Most of the vehicle scenarios you’re referring to in Iraq and Afghanistan are suicide bombers. A good majority of those guys are shot to hell and wounded, or even dead, by the time their SVBIED rolls up to the target and blows up. So because they’re hard to disable the SVBIED before it kills you, you still lose in this scenario if the roadblock fires on you. Edit to add: If the roadblock is any decent, it will have alternating barricades set on the road ahead to force vehicles to slow down while they zig zag around them. They also stop a vehicle from rolling closer once the driver is shot and can’t navigate them. Google ECP - entry control point. If you see this, they know what they’re doing and that should be considered.
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To all who think you are going to run a road block that you happen to come upon are delusional.
If you happen to come upon a roadblock . . . you have already failed.
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And people that think the "Road Blockers" are without risk are too.
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It all depends. A couple of guys with AR15 behind a crap pile barricade is probably an easy one to storm through. However a well-equipped roadblock made out of sandbags, spike strips on the road, 50BMG or another large-caliber weapon, flank protected is non-passable, unless you have an armored truck. Each situation is different, there is no universal recipe here, except a broad advice to avoid it.
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I don't have that type of exposure. Never will. If things ever do go to heck, we will disable the bridges going to the ranch in both directions and put people on foot. I don't want anybody to be able to drive up to my place with a vehicle.
Its 21 miles one way and 18 the other from the bridges. |
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A couple of rounds through the radiator will disable most vehicles in short order.
Regardless of which side you're on, it is something to consider.
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I an so confused, I thought road blocks were why we bought the RPG's. If not for roadblocks what are they for???
Hate carrying things I can't use.
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