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Old 07-14-2019, 3:18 PM
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Watsonville man shot and killed after breaking into tent

TUOLUMNE COUNTY, Calif. - A Watsonville man who entered a pair of campers' tent was shot and killed, according to the Tuolumne County Sheriff's Office.

The altercation occurred at Deadman's campground in the Stanislaus National Forest early Thursday morning.

The Sheriff's Office says a couple was sleeping in their tent when a 36-year-old Watsonville man entered the tent around 2 a.m.

The woman woke to the Watsonville man on top of her.

Her screams woke her boyfriend, and in the ensuing confrontation, the Watsonville man was shot. He died at the scene, authorities say.

https://www.kion546.com/news/watsonv...OGQK06Gf1iR_Pg

At least it was a happy ending.
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Probably not the 1st time this creep did the tent break in routine. Safe to say it is his last !
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Old 07-14-2019, 4:28 PM
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The altercation occurred at Deadman's campground
Yep, living (or dying) up to its name!!!!!

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What, the shooter was not automatically arrested until everything could be investigated and sorted out? Impossible according to some Calguns members. Obviously the shooter must be a cop and the media is hiding that fact.
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His tentage was cut short.
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Now instead of raping Republicans he’ll be voting against them.
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Wow. What a harrowing experience for that couple. Glad things were handled the way they should have.

Curious to know exactly what he used. I don't do as much tent camping as I used to but I would always keep my Glock 21 .45ACP with a light on it right next to my sleeping bag loaded with some kind of defensive rounds - usually Hornady Critical Defense.

Could be an interesting thread..."What Is Your Tent Gun?"

I still have that Glock 21. Second photo was from a backpacking trip a long while ago. You can see her in the tent right above my hat & shirt.




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What, the shooter was not automatically arrested until everything could be investigated and sorted out? Impossible according to some Calguns members. Obviously the shooter must be a cop and the media is hiding that fact.
I don't know where you're going with this but normally we the citizens have this issue.......look at new post

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Watsonville man shot and killed after breaking into tent

TUOLUMNE COUNTY, Calif. - A Watsonville man who entered a pair of campers' tent was shot and killed, according to the Tuolumne County Sheriff's Office.

The altercation occurred at Deadman's campground in the Stanislaus National Forest early Thursday morning.

The Sheriff's Office says a couple was sleeping in their tent when a 36-year-old Watsonville man entered the tent around 2 a.m.

The woman woke to the Watsonville man on top of her.

Her screams woke her boyfriend, and in the ensuing confrontation, the Watsonville man was shot. He died at the scene, authorities say.

https://www.kion546.com/news/watsonv...OGQK06Gf1iR_Pg

At least it was a happy ending.
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I wonder what ethnicity the perp was and if he was a citizen or possibly here illegally?

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I live in Tuolumne county and have been following this story on our local news. There was no update today, but if I see one, I will post.

btw: The actual name is Deadman, not Deadman's. It's named after Deadman Creek that flows into the Middle Fork of the Stanislaus River. The creek was named that after a man who was bitten by a rattlesnake on the east side of the Sierra passed away in the canyon above and east Kennedy Meadows. His grave is somewhere in the canyon.
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I like knowing my revolver is by my side in the tent!
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And this is exactly why I'm bringing my Sig camping with me this weekend
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And this is exactly why I'm bringing my Sig camping with me this weekend
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..."What Is Your Tent Gun?"


G29 here.


Glad the couple is safe. Glad they were prepared.
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G29 here.


Glad the couple is safe. Glad they were prepared.
Tent gun could be any handgun that I own but backpacking it's the LCRx3.

I also like it to have a DA first trigger pull as I keep it unholstered beside my head, something I won't do with a Glock.
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Old 07-15-2019, 7:32 AM
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The irony.
No, irony would be if it was called "Alive" or "Living" campground.

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Probably not the 1st time this creep did the tent break in routine. Safe to say it is his last !
Yeah, being in CA he probably assumed they would be unarmed. I hope he lived just long enough to regret things.
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Not a very accurate headline. The guy wasn't shot for breaking into the tent, he was shot for assaulting the woman that was in there. More accurate headline would have been Man Shot After Assaulting Woman.

This goes to show how you just never know when trouble may come.
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I have just started another thread about my recent experience while camping in Joshua Tree where we had to draw on an intruder at 2 am.

People do stupid things and we have to be prepared, but we also have to be smart enough not to overreact.
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Not a very accurate headline. The guy wasn't shot for breaking into the tent, he was shot for assaulting the woman that was in there. More accurate headline would have been Man Shot After Assaulting Woman.

This goes to show how you just never know when trouble may come.
Even more accurate:
Man shot after invading couple's tent.
Man shot after attacking sleeping woman.

What he did went beyond "assault."

CHAPTER 9. Assault and Battery [240 - 248] ( Chapter 9 enacted 1872. )

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An assault is an unlawful attempt, coupled with a present ability, to commit a violent injury on the person of another.

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Berretta 92fs is my "tent" gun...

Stay safe campers.
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Old 07-15-2019, 2:06 PM
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Tent gun?

Any one or more of three .44 Special* single actions with a .45 auto 1911 in the wings. Oh, and a shotgun, because shotgun. I like camping!

*Heavy .44 Special, either Buffalo Bore or handloaded to this specification: 250 grain LSWC @ 1000 fps. It will easily dispatch elk and black bear at handgun distances.

(I'm looking for some published data for a semi-jacketed load using a 270 Speer Deep Curl at similar velocity, between 1000-1100 fps from .44 Special brass. I know Brian Pearce has mentioned such loads but I might have to write him for clarification.)

Caliber and ballistics should be elevated to even higher levels when in grizzly country. I don't know how folks got by in the days before .454 Casull, .500 S&W, .475 Linebaugh, etc...

But back in Callahan's day the .44 Magnum was "the most powerful handgun in the world..." To be worthy of consideration today as grizzly defense, however, that .44 Mag should use at least a 300 grain slug.
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When we camp/hunt, I keep my 629 handy and my AOW tucked away somewhere inside the tent. I've had bears walk right up to our tent before and stick his nose against it and grunt. Never had to deal with two legged predators though.

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I think your stir sh*t card is showing.
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Not a very accurate headline. The guy wasn't shot for breaking into the tent, he was shot for assaulting the woman that was in there. More accurate headline would have been Man Shot After Assaulting Woman.

This goes to show how you just never know when trouble may come.
A tent is a "residence" for purposes of self defense. You are presumed to be threatened with death or serious bodily harm if someone unlawfully enters your residence. Unzipping someone's tent flap is the same as kicking a front door per the law.

So he could've been shot for either crime. The lesson today is, don't go creeping on people camping.
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2 weeks ago camping with friends, friend asks why did I bring a gun? My answer, you didn’t? Then I showed him it was more than 1.
I will have him read this post.
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2 weeks ago camping with friends, friend asks why did I bring a gun? My answer, you didn’t? Then I showed him it was more than 1.
I will have him read this post.
If he can't read, should he own a gun?
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Don't need to be able to read to vote; so why not.
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The irony.
+1

I thought that area was closed from the fire.

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A tent is a "residence" for purposes of self defense. You are presumed to be threatened with death or serious bodily harm if someone unlawfully enters your residence. Unzipping someone's tent flap is the same as kicking a front door per the law.

So he could've been shot for either crime. The lesson today is, don't go creeping on people camping.

We had a sleep walker go into someone else's camp sight, sit down at their table, and start eating their food.


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I thought that area was closed from the fire.
The fire fighters basically 'herded' the Donnell fire around the Kennedy Meadows area. They did a great job!

Regarding the shooting incident, the local meadow has been quiet about it. Nothing new in the last few days.

Edit: Posted a few minutes ago. The person who was shot has been identified...

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9mm Shield, 9mm 1911 or a .45 1911. It's good to rotate the defense guns. Usually I sleep in the back of my Jeep Wrangler JKU. I also keep a 14.5" AR-15 inside.
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The fire fighters basically 'herded' the Donnell fire around the Kennedy Meadows area. They did a great job!
Pretty crazy to drive through there.
Fire burned 50ft or so away from the cabins along 108.
Other than Dardenelle's, they protected a lot of structures.
The gas pumps survived at Dardenelle's, not much else......
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I live in Tuolumne county and have been following this story on our local news. There was no update today, but if I see one, I will post.

btw: The actual name is Deadman, not Deadman's. It's named after Deadman Creek that flows into the Middle Fork of the Stanislaus River. The creek was named that after a man who was bitten by a rattlesnake on the east side of the Sierra passed away in the canyon above and east Kennedy Meadows. His grave is somewhere in the canyon.
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Latest report on the incident...

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Sonora, CA – The man that died in last week’s campground shooting in Stanislaus National Forest near Kennedy Meadows was arrested for a similar incident involving children at a Bay Area campground.
https://www.mymotherlode.com/news/lo...-shooting.html
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Did I miss the part where it says who’s gun it was? Intruder or campers?
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