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Old 04-16-2021, 11:45 AM
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Going to apply for my CCW in OC. Was wondering what your thoughts are on carrying a government 5" 1911. I recently got the Les Baer Custom Carry 5" .45

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You can do it, but there are much better options in my opinion. How do you plan to carry? Appendix? IWB?
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That’s going to be a heavy chunk. Also, Welcome!

Make sure to invest in a very good belt.

As SDRyder said, there are better options out there especially for day-to-day carrying. You could still qualify with it and try it out. Just make sure you have other firearms listed in case it doesn’t work out.
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Thanks guys! And IWB. The only other handguns I have are 9mm p226 extreme, HK USP9 full, and a CZ 97b. Should I qualify with them all? Donít remember what the limit was.
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Make sure to invest in a very good belt.

As SDRyder said, there are better options out there especially for day-to-day carrying. You could still qualify with it and try it out. Just make sure you have other firearms listed in case it doesnít work out.
Thanks for the welcome! Such a great community with many resources. Glad I was recommended this forum.
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I carry a Sig Sauer Nitron 1911; and a Smith and Wesson 4506 on my permit. I carry the 4506 cross draw against my left side and it is very comfortable. I like the idea of if something happens on having a .45 with the ability to put somebody down if needed. People debate all the time about calibers that are affective; yet there is no debate the 45 acp is a man stopper.
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I have 3 guns on m CCW, one is 1911, but it is heavy on the belt and I feel like I have to adjust it constantly, ideally better to wear it outside the waist, but of course covered
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I carry a Sig Sauer Nitron 1911; and a Smith and Wesson 4506 on my permit. I carry the 4506 cross draw against my left side and it is very comfortable. I like the idea of if something happens on having a .45 with the ability to put somebody down if needed. People debate all the time about calibers that are affective; yet there is no debate the 45 acp is a man stopper.
I do hear that debate all the time, just train on whatever caliber youíre comfortable with and go from there is my 2 cents. Thanks for the information, my only concern is that itís a longer and heavier handgun. Iím comfortable with doing an appendix carry, in front and my dominant side (right) but Iíll have to try with a holster to see if I like it. Just wanted to see if anyone else had done it before and what they think about it.
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I have 3 guns on m CCW, one is 1911, but it is heavy on the belt and I feel like I have to adjust it constantly, ideally better to wear it outside the waist, but of course covered
You can do OWB with CCW? How does that work? And covered you just mean with a jacket or outerwear?
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I carry a full size 1911 on a kore belt in a vedder light tuck with the holster canted as far as it will go forward. It's comfortable and conceals well at about 3:00. It does get heavy after a long day.
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You can do OWB with CCW? How does that work? And covered you just mean with a jacket or outerwear?
Yes, depending on your build, OWB is easier with a 1911. Many here conceal OWB with a shirt or jacket.

If it were me, I’d carry one in the winter (even now in OC it’s been a bit chilly for a jacket).
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I carry a Smith 1006 IWB at 4:00 in a Crossbreed QuikClip with no real issues except sometimes the barrel is cold. Good carry belt and holster are a must.
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You aren't the first. You won't be the last. I personally prefer a 1911 and can use OWB and IWB. As long as you adopt a good belt and holster, either way is viable. You'll have to experiment a bit as everyone is built differently and will have different tolerances for comfort and practicality.
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Okay great info guys! So I have both IWB and OWB bravo concealment holster with a relentless tactical carry belt. Those good?
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Okay great info guys! So I have both IWB and OWB bravo concealment holster with a relentless tactical carry belt. Those good?
If it works for you it's good. It's about what works for you, not what anyone else thinks is good.
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I mostly carry a number of 1911ís. A 3Ē Kimber Ultra, a 5Ē Sig GSR Revolution XO, and a Les Baer Custom. I carry these because I shoot them more accurately than anything else. Iím using Slidebelt Survival belt with Milt Sparks Nexus/Criterion holsters. I have many other options, but these are my Go To. There are a million variations, and combinations to try.
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This should be issued with every CCW license for a 1911:

https://www.amazon.com/Matlock-Compl.../dp/B00S89IVTM

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Not really. What does "works" mean? Can you draw to an A zone/down zero on an IPSC/IDPA target from concealment at 7 yards in under 2 seconds? If not, it may not "work for you".

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It can be done. Get good holster and belt. You will likely have to go through a few holsters until you find the right one.
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Thanks guys! And IWB. The only other handguns I have are 9mm p226 extreme, HK USP9 full, and a CZ 97b. Should I qualify with them all? Donít remember what the limit was.

OCSD has no limit I have 10 on my CCW. As far as full size platform I have a SA XD45 5" service, Baby Desert Eagle 40 S&W, Sig 1911. I have a CZ 75 Compact 2 Ruger wheel guns (1 LCR and 1 LCRx) 2 Shields 1 with crimson trace laser guard and a couple of other mouse guns.......

I mostly carry OWB pancake in leather, I do have a few IWB Kydex that I carry from 2:30 to 4:00 position
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I have a 1911 5" I carry during hunting season own. Works good with a jacket or other cover.
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I did it for 10 years and learned to hate it. Of course holsters weren't as good 40 years ago so it's probably easier now. For IWB get something like a crossbreed with the wide backer to spread the weight and a reinforced gun belt. I had to carry mostly in a a shoulder holster which helped a lot but at the end of a long day you really felt the load.

Now I carry 3" and 4" polymer guns and in the modern holsters you can almost forget that you're carrying.
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Just watch "Magnum P.I.". Thomas Magnum just puts it in the small of his back, no holster. He does all kinds of action stunts and it never falls out or shows before he draws!
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Carry a full size Colt and also a DW CBoB for almost two years and having a strong belt/holster is setup is key. I use a Hanks belt paired with either of these holsters below and mostly 4 o'clock (behind hip) except when paired with the Bravo.
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I carry a custom STI 4Ē commander in a Milt Sparks VersaMax 2 - All day long, everyday. Twenty rounds of 9mm plus I also carry 2 extra mags on weak side double mag carrier.

It all depends on your build and how you wear your clothes.

It takes a while but you will get comfortable and find what works for you.
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Going to apply for my CCW in OC. Was wondering what your thoughts are on carrying a government 5" 1911. I recently got the Les Baer Custom Carry 5" .45

It's what I carry in Warbird Leather IWB holster.
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A full sized 1911 is way to big of a gun to CCW with IMO. As other members stated there are far better choices to carry. Think G17,26,27, or like I EDC a G30 SF. Much smaller and lighter.
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I sometimes carry a Nighthawk Commander. It is a full size 1911 just .75" shorter length than a Govt.

With a good belt and holster it is no big deal. I carry it IWB and OWB depending on what I'll be wearing, which usually just depends on how cold it will be.
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I carry a Sig Sauer Nitron 1911; and a Smith and Wesson 4506 on my permit. I carry the 4506 cross draw against my left side and it is very comfortable. I like the idea of if something happens on having a .45 with the ability to put somebody down if needed. People debate all the time about calibers that are affective; yet there is no debate the 45 acp is a man stopper.
I assume you have no issues with the 4506? I purchased a 4506-1 yesterday and intend on eventually putting it on my permit.
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Glaco ' jackass ' shoulder carry rig

Think Miami Vice

I've had that leather rig for Years , Still works great
Hint . Wear thick white undershirt , then add Glaco rig
Then floppy shirt .... Never a problem
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CCW is a disposable tool

Things I want in a CCW gun
1- reliability
2-not easy to rust
3- conceals OK(size and no sharp edges eating me)
4- disposable for when police take it after a shoot.
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I have my Les Baer CC 5” 45ACP on my permit. It is a fine weapon.

That being said, my Sig P245 is what I Cary most often.
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I AIWB a full size 1911 every day while in AZ which is 10 to 15 days a month. As as been said, you will end up with a box of holsters until you find the right one for you. For me, itís a JM Custom Kydex AIWB holster mounted on a Sparks belt. I prefer the split loops to anchor the gun. Works for me. It is on my body 12 hours a day or so and I donít find it uncomfortable.
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A full sized 1911 is way to big of a gun to CCW with IMO. As other members stated there are far better choices to carry. Think G17,26,27, or like I EDC a G30 SF. Much smaller and lighter.

Not all of us like Glocks.

Not all of us have tiny hands for the tiny 9mm platforms you mention.

Some of us don't mind 2.9 lbs hanging on the side with a Hanks or Relentless leather belt.



I don't need smaller or lighter. I want to feel comfortable and secure knowing the platform I am carrying is like an extension of my hand with the knock down power and capacity to protect myself and my family if ever needed.

For my EDC I personally carry the Desert Eagle the most as I have 13 rounds of 40 cal (12+1) Black belt +p hollow points and another 12 in my spare mag.

If I need more than 25 rounds of 40 S&W thru a 4.4" barrel I'm in deep doo doo anyway.

I do carry the shield 9mm 2nd most often. 2 spare 8rd mags of Black belt +p+ for a total of 24.

Maybe there is far better choices for you to carry, or for them to carry.

I know plenty of guys that carry their 1911 as an EDC and wouldn't carry anything else but their 1911.
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I carry one sometimes OP, but it's a pretty big chunk to carry IMO. I can carry whatever and however I want out here, no fear of accidental exposure... But still, 90% of the time it's a 9mm Glock.

My BIL carries a 92FS, uses a shoulder rig. When I carry a 1911 it's usually a commander sized pistol with an Afonso holster. So it can be done... but do yourself a favor and get an S&W Shield or a G43 or something like that to have on your permit. You'll thank me later.
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Nothing wrong with carrying a full size "O" frame style pistol. If it is concealed, comfortable and you can unholster and put shots on target quickly then go for it.

But think if you're involved in a defensive incident involving that pricey pistol it will be stuffed in an evidence bag and you might not see it for a week, year or ever.

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Post 7 would be my response too. I have better options and chose a G27 as my every day carry. I do have a SA Loaded 45 automatic on my permit for those times when I'm traveling on long trips or want a second gun close by. Nothing wrong with your choice but other options to consider as well.
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Buy a Kore Essentials tactical belt with X7 buckle. I am glad I bought this belt because it is thin to avoid back problems while sitting, holds up my heavy 1911 with TRL1 and ammo, and offers 1/4Ē adjustments for a perfect fit that avoids activating my sciatica.

Get a Tenicor Certum 3. You can modify it for appendix carry. If that doesnít work, you can convert it to strong side carry. They do not have a lux version yet.

If you want the light on the gun, then try Garrity Gun Leather and/or PHLster Floodlight.
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