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Old 05-22-2022, 11:02 PM
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Thanks for the heads-up on this, been looking for it for a while now. Haven't looked at these since Marlin days, and definitely out of the loop. Last one I had was a Henry Wildlife 45-70, it was a beast and gorgeous but I never got a chance to fire her before I sold it off here.

I like the utilitarian look of these with the stainless/black comp stocks a lot.

Anyhow just wanted to say thanks and good looking out.
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Will be a hot seller forsure
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At 1350, not likely, at least not from my perspective.
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At 1350, not likely, at least not from my perspective.
Go look at what Marlins are getting on Gunbroker, day in and day out. These will sell like hotcakes at $1350. This exact Ruger model has been selling for $1500+ there
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The 1895 trapper with all black stock was in stock a few different places yesterday for 1200 and 1250
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A month or so ago the stainless with grey laminate stock and bit longer barrel which IIRC is the guide model was going for $2,700 online from dealers. I lost interest immediately.

Maybe in a couple years it will come down. Otherwise I'll make due with my 45-70 from the '70s.
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Holy crap! Why so much? I got my GBL for like 700+ taxes and fees during the gun run at the beginning of the pandemic. Just saw gunbroker current bids for stock ones for like 1100-1400
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Go look at what Marlins are getting on Gunbroker, day in and day out. These will sell like hotcakes at $1350. This exact Ruger model has been selling for $1500+ there
Yes plywood stocks. - real Marlins are bringing a premium. Ruger Marlins are bringing a premium because people want the first offering. Ruger has changed some of the parts and design to make it quicker and cheaper to produce. The same things they did to screw up their Red Label shotgun which led them to remove them from the market after a few months and many warranty claims.
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Yes plywood stocks. - real Marlins are bringing a premium. Ruger Marlins are bringing a premium because people want the first offering. Ruger has changed some of the parts and design to make it quicker and cheaper to produce. The same things they did to screw up their Red Label shotgun which led them to remove them from the market after a few months and many warranty claims.
Do tell what parts they changed to make it “quicker and cheaper to produce”. They are still using a forged stainless receiver, much to the dismay of the naysayers who swore they would go to investments cast and hammer forged barrels, which should be an improvement, but I will agree that what they did to the Red Labels was almost criminal; ruined the last true American double gun.

As far as “plywood” stocks, for an all weather, stainless firearm I’ll take that over walnut every time.

Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE my Marlin Marlins; I own four 1893s (all pre-1906), three 1894s (one that is fairly modern), two 1895s, two 1892s a couple of 336 and a 444, but I don’t see the Ruger-made being the abhorrent disaster the Remlins were. The reviews have been very positive and I’m looking forward to adding my first SS Marlin soon and can guarantee I’ll be honest either way it turns out.
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At 1350, not likely, at least not from my perspective.
Go look at markets place, everybody asking 2k for Remington version. I got mine for long time ago and steal price. Not anymore.
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Go look at markets place, everybody asking 2k for Remington version. I got mine for long time ago and steal price. Not anymore.
What they ask and what I will pay are 2 different things. Asking and actually selling are also 2 different things.
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What they ask and what I will pay are 2 different things. Asking and actually selling are also 2 different things.
You said not likely from your perspective. They are already selling for that and higher.
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Yes plywood stocks. - real Marlins are bringing a premium. Ruger Marlins are bringing a premium because people want the first offering. Ruger has changed some of the parts and design to make it quicker and cheaper to produce. The same things they did to screw up their Red Label shotgun which led them to remove them from the market after a few months and many warranty claims.
Real marlins as in marlin from the 70s?
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You said not likely from your perspective. They are already selling for that and higher.
A fool born every minute. Ok I have a rare erma werks mini P08 luger in 32acp unfired. I saw one on GB sold for 1575. Will you buy it?
How many have you seen "sold" and not just asking?
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What they ask and what I will pay are 2 different things. Asking and actually selling are also 2 different things.
Ruger Marlins - Actually selling - over $2k

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/930648898

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/928089771

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/932908657

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/930282841

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/928180437

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There are plenty more examples to find @ $2k+ and many more at $1900+

So yes, at $1350 they will sell out over and over again.
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I didn't realize there were that many suckers out there, lol.
I will never be on the list. But Hey buy one if you want. There are plenty of suckers buying Tesla's too, justifying buying one for that price if ridiculous to me.
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I didn't realize there were that many suckers out there, lol.
I will never be on the list. But Hey buy one if you want. There are plenty of suckers buying Tesla's too, justifying buying one for that price if ridiculous to me.
Just look at how many people voted for Brandon..
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There are sellers on GB, like the one I bought, selling for slightly more ($25) over retail and the seller did 0% for credit cards, so he did just under retail and $35 shipping since I paid cash. My FFL (who I just found out is retiring!), charged me $62 all in for the transfer.

Fit and finish are very nice; no sharp trigger, matte finish on all the stainless parts are matched well and over all fit for wood to metal is excellent.

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A fool born every minute. Ok I have a rare erma werks mini P08 luger in 32acp unfired. I saw one on GB sold for 1575. Will you buy it?
How many have you seen "sold" and not just asking?
Do you have a gunbroker account? If not, make one and go to advanced search for completed auctions.

I stopped counting after 20 SOLD auctions all of which have sold for more than 1350.
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I didn't realize there were that many suckers out there, lol.
I will never be on the list. But Hey buy one if you want. There are plenty of suckers buying Tesla's too, justifying buying one for that price if ridiculous to me.
Hate to break it to you, gun prices aren’t going down anytime soon.
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A fool born every minute. Ok I have a rare erma werks mini P08 luger in 32acp unfired. I saw one on GB sold for 1575. Will you buy it?
How many have you seen "sold" and not just asking?
I only see one that sold for 465.
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Real marlins as in marlin from the 70s?
Remington marlins?
If you got good Remington marlins you will be fine.
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There are sellers on GB, like the one I bought, selling for slightly more ($25) over retail and the seller did 0% for credit cards, so he did just under retail and $35 shipping since I paid cash. My FFL (who I just found out is retiring!), charged me $62 all in for the transfer.

Fit and finish are very nice; no sharp trigger, matte finish on all the stainless parts are matched well and over all fit for wood to metal is excellent.
Said so much. Where is the link? Too good to be true.
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It might have, but this is unfired in original box. I bought 2 of these unfired in original box, one in 22 and one in 32acp from an old buddy for 700 in 2020, Sold the 22 for 550 and kept the 32 since its much rarer. So I have 150 into it. But I didn't think you would actually be that anal that you would go look them up,lol. It was for argument purposes only. This one is in bad condition in my book. The one i saw sold for 1500. You probably aren't looking up the correct gun.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/927068321
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It might have, but this is unfired in original box. I bought 2 of these unfired in original box, one in 22 and one in 32acp from an old buddy for 700 in 2020, Sold the 22 for 550 and kept the 32 since its much rarer. So I have 150 into it. But I didn't think you would actually be that anal that you would go look them up,lol. It was for argument purposes only. This one is in bad condition in my book. The one i saw sold for 1500. You probably aren't looking up the correct gun.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/927068321
“The one I saw”.

Again, no proof? It’s not hard to look up. Erma werke 32acp. It’s literally the only specific firearm that pops up.

Another condescending ******* who makes claims they can’t even back up.
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Found 1895 dark in stock for 1100!!! But they only take zelle or bitcoin ��*♂️. These scam websites look super legit until you get to payment info. Saw same thing with Barrett
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Said so much. Where is the link? Too good to be true.
Eh, I really couldn’t care less what an anonymous guy on a forum thinks, maybe you should do the same. Just relaying my experience that not every seller is gouging.

You keep goring those windmills……
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Ruger is setting us up for the big $ increase for the 336 and 94 models.

I wish they would cut the BS and get right to the 94 model in .357 thats blued and has a real walnut stock. Let's face it, that's the one that most people want.

I'm the one guy that has a great Remlin 94. I haven't seen a JM mark 94 that I would trade for. Let's go Ruger, stop goofing around.
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Ruger is setting us up for the big $ increase for the 336 and 94 models.

I wish they would cut the BS and get right to the 94 model in .357 thats blued and has a real walnut stock. Let's face it, that's the one that most people want.

I'm the one guy that has a great Remlin 94. I haven't seen a JM mark 94 that I would trade for. Let's go Ruger, stop goofing around.
They would sell double the 94s over 95, just from a caliber standpoint; 357, 44mag, 45 Colt, etc and could market them as companions to their Vaquero and Blackhawk lines.

I’m not sure why they went right at the big bore market…..
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They would sell double the 94s over 95, just from a caliber standpoint; 357, 44mag, 45 Colt, etc and could market them as companions to their Vaquero and Blackhawk lines.

I’m not sure why they went right at the big bore market…..
Like I said brother, they're setting us up for the $ incease by starting out with their more expensive guns
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Eh, I really couldn’t care less what an anonymous guy on a forum thinks, maybe you should do the same. Just relaying my experience that not every seller is gouging.

You keep goring those windmills……
I’m by no means saying you are lying, but the amount you paid on GB is out of the norm. The market is what it is. I won’t even get into the $62 total FFL fee. Your FFL is offering his services for extremely cheap, and way cheaper than most FFLs. I thought I had it good with a 104$ OTD guy.

There’s always someone who seems to be able to find deals that nobody else can get..
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I’m by no means saying you are lying, but the amount you paid on GB is out of the norm. The market is what it is. I won’t even get into the $62 total FFL fee. Your FFL is offering his services for extremely cheap, and way cheaper than most FFLs. I thought I had it good with a 104$ OTD guy.

There’s always someone who seems to be able to find deals that nobody else can get..
I agree, but on occasions, there are deals. The guy I bought from on GB had two and sold them within a few hours.

As for my FFL, he is retiring next month, but he has been awesome! It was actually $62.19 for the transfer….
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I thought those were cool until Hollywood decided to go dinosaur hunting with one.
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I’m by no means saying you are lying, but the amount you paid on GB is out of the norm. The market is what it is. I won’t even get into the $62 total FFL fee. Your FFL is offering his services for extremely cheap, and way cheaper than most FFLs. I thought I had it good with a 104$ OTD guy.

There’s always someone who seems to be able to find deals that nobody else can get..
Because nothing is cheap on Calgun anymore and too many people always on the forums. Only way you can get is by luck.
I was using armslist before they have pay membership. I got JM stainless 44mag for 800, and 45-70 for 900 with 200 rounds.
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They made the gun first that took the most effort to make correctly.
1894s are the next to go online for production. 336s are supposed to be December or January
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