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Old 06-23-2018, 10:31 PM
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Looks like those PSA .22 uppers are going to be harder to get than a Ruger PC Carbine 9mm the rest of the year. I wouldn't mind trying one out. I'll wager they run as good as my CMMG.
Hate to give them business over a local gun dealer, but have you tried Big 5 ? Been in 3 of their stores that have them, and if you get Mr/Ms Nice at the counter they can order one in for you from another store if they don't have one.
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I bought the very same upper for my 22lr dedicated rifle, it was a bit pricey, but your savings are long term on ammo. I use the BDM mags too, I would recommend when you get them to check them for fit as some of them are very snug, and depending on the ammo you may struggle to fit 10 rounds, which may sound insane, but you will see what I mean. If you are looking to have a Last Round Bolt Hold Open - good luck! I added the ar catch 22 at a later day, it does not fully hold open on last round and when magazine is ejected it slams forward - but it does fully hold open the bolt on manual hold - which is ideal for the range.

Might also want to try a "New Frontier Armory LW-4 AR15 Stripped Carbon Fiber Lower Receiver" takes a bit of weight off the build and performs like a work horse and has the best feature for younger shooters, a safety that engages regardless of bolt forward or rear.
The Better Mag Adapter holds the bolt back and stays back once the mag is dropped.

I was curious on which is better between the Catch-22 and Better Mag Adapter and it seems the the Better Mag Adapter is the winner now. S&W 15-22 mags aren't the cheapest though.
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The Better Mag Adapter holds the bolt back and stays back once the mag is dropped.

I was curious on which is better between the Catch-22 and Better Mag Adapter and it seems the the Better Mag Adapter is the winner now. S&W 15-22 mags aren't the cheapest though.
Thanks for that confirmation, I was about to try the S&W mags with the pads, next but it wouldn't solve the LRBHO issue. Palmetto State used to have a bit of info on the 22 upper page about mags and LRBHO but that disappeared, so I guess i'm buying the adapter too now
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Ok so here is what I want. I want a standard mil-spec ar15 lower reciever. I want last round bolt hold open.

What do I need to buy to do this?
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Ok so here is what I want. I want a standard mil-spec ar15 lower reciever. I want last round bolt hold open.

What do I need to buy to do this?
Any standard AR lower of your choice, the "Better Mag" adapter, and S&W MP22 mags.
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+1 on mag adapter and smith mags. Cmmg upper kicks ***.
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Been very happy with my CMMG dedicated upper and Black Dog magazine pairing. Very reliable and accurate with Blazer .22 ammo. Sure like being able to keep my rifle sporting a pistol grip and adjustable stock. Makes it very friendly for the kids to shoulder and handle.
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Hate to give them business over a local gun dealer, but have you tried Big 5 ? Been in 3 of their stores that have them, and if you get Mr/Ms Nice at the counter they can order one in for you from another store if they don't have one.
I have two PC CARBINES already. I was just commenting on the stock levels.

Big 5 is OK. I got my Sig522 there. As far as black 22 rifles the CMMG light AR-22 upper on a polymer lower and that Sig 522 are my favorites.
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who is the maker of the better mag?

I have seen what I think is 2 different products by that name, from what I think is 2 different manufacturers.....
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who is the maker of the better mag?

I have seen what I think is 2 different products by that name, from what I think is 2 different manufacturers.....
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ordered the bettermag and 4 mags

do I need to get the catch 22 bolt catch or is it not needed with the bettermag adapter?
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ordered the bettermag and 4 mags

do I need to get the catch 22 bolt catch or is it not needed with the bettermag adapter?
The better mag adapter works fine with the standard bolt catch. Just pay attention to the orientation of the adapter piece when installing the better mag.
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Does lula make a unit for the s&w 15-22 mags?

I love the lula I have for my xd9 and ar15
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The 10-rd M&P-15-22 magazines have a little black nub in the center of the follower that you can use to pull down on the follower, making it easier to load them up.
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For poster # 37, check out pg 5 0f 15, section ( hh ) of the Calif Code of Regulations Title 11, Division 5 that was filed with the Office of Administrative Law by DOJ. Sentence 3: " A weapon clearly designed to be semiautomatic BUT lacking a firing pin, bolt carrier, gas tube, or some other crucial part of the firearm is NOT semiautomatic for purposes of Penal Code sections 30515, 30600, 30605(a) and 30900.

Taking out the bolt carrier does not make your weapon " a broken assualt weapon. Get a copy of the regs and look them over good. Take the BCG out and lock it up away from the rifle. Keep the conversion unit next to it. again get a copy of the regs and go over it.

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Does lula make a unit for the s&w 15-22 mags?

I love the lula I have for my xd9 and ar15
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What about the MCFadden Lightnin Grip?
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Mcfadden loader

Https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5A4mUYQ8gqo


I will be using the s&w mp15-22 mags
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Mcfadden loader

Https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5A4mUYQ8gqo


I will be using the s&w mp15-22 mags
Lol holy crap, the ammo companies should be handing those out for free.
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oh crap! just realized the PSA upper says uses standard Black dog machine magazines

I have the better mag adapter and the s&w 15-22 mags

Will I be ok? or am I screwed?

EDIT:

Ok, looks like I am ok, saw on the comments on psa, that others use the bettermag and s&w mp 15-22 mags and are fine

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Got my upper, my readymag, and should have my mags in a couple days. Hmmmm.... I don't have a lower yet, but do have a complete lpk.

However, I do have an 80% that I can register, just gotta look into that now. I know I will need to get it registered and a DOJ issued s/n if I go that route. If it is too much work, just going to cut it up before the deadline.

I don't know how much I trust my 80%, but it does function check...


Oh yeah, ammo, I need that too, lol
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so... apparently, the 10/25 mags don't have that helper thing on the follower..... great......

now I will need a loader, or a bolt or something....
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so... apparently, the 10/25 mags don't have that helper thing on the follower..... great......

now I will need a loader, or a bolt or something....
The short 10rd versions do....
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A quick mod for speed loading your mags. I have the BDM mag loader - it works (kind of) and it saves some time. I have over ten 10rd BDM mags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMOAv6rT30s

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I have 10 and 10/25 s&w m&p15-22 mags


The bar on the 10 rd mags is fine for the 10 rd mags. I have just found that a punch from my tool bag does the same for the 10/25 rd mags
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I can't imagine why anyone would want an AR-15 chambered in 22. If that's the case, just modify a 10/22. They work better anyways.
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Because my minor kid can't shoot my registered assault weapon. Ammo is a lot cheaper. And during the zombie apocalypse, I have an AR15 lower.

This build has a dedicated 22lr upper, so the accuracy debate is irrelevant

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Because my minor daughter can't shoot my registered assault weapons. Ammo is a lot cheaper. And during the zombie appocalypse, I have an AR15 lower.

This build has a dedicated 22lr upper, so the accurracy debate is irrelevant



^^^THIS!


I've never understood how anyone could want a 10/22. Because the ergonomics suck diddly-uck.
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Oh yeah, and this isn't necessarily for the 10/22, but I tired out a few featureless rifles, I can't hold them, my hands are either too big, or weirdly shaped, and only about .25 of my hand makes contact with the grip, and I have my thumb floating around all weird, even if there is a thumb rest

I do actually want to get a 10/22 takedown at some point in time
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I can't imagine why anyone would want an AR-15 chambered in 22. If that's the case, just modify a 10/22. They work better anyways.
It's been very useful as a training rifle for my kids.

It's a great format to introduce new shooters to rifles and show them that "scary black rifles" aren't so scary.

I have a parts build .22lr AR rifle based on a CMMG barrel and bolt assembly which has been very reliable.
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Sooooo... finally got it built! Well, need a lower....but I have a andersen lpk, psa m4 stock, and an aero tube already. Will be going with a Spike's. Not sure what design yet. I will be getting a better stock, as the psa is probably uncomfortable

This has been my most expensive build! And it is the smallest caliber, lol, and not an AW!
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The scope is a centerfire, vortex crossfire ii 2-7x32 with dead hold bdc on a warne cantilever mount, on a psa dedicated upper with a 13.5" mlok rail, and a better mag adapter. Using s&w mp15-22 mags in 10 rd, and 10/25 bodies. I also have a strike industries extended bolt catch, I really like them

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This has been my most expensive build! And it is the smallest caliber, lol, and not an AW!
Looking good! Don't feel too bad about the cost... my build ended being well over $1k when it was completed and I was happy.
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This is such a cool topic! I did the 22 caliber Glock, and I did a stock replacement on a Ruger 10/22 to make it look like a HK G36, but a 22 caliber AR sounds so fun. I've looked at the ones at Big 5 and such, and saw they have decent reviews, but the thought of building one sounds like such a fun idea.
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Sooooo... finally got it built! Well, need a lower....but I have a andersen lpk, psa m4 stock, and an aero tube already. Will be going with a Spike's. Not sure what design yet. I will be getting a better stock, as the psa is probably uncomfortable

This has been my most expensive build! And it is the smallest caliber, lol, and not an AW!
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The scope is a centerfire, vortex crossfire ii 2-7x32 with dead hold bdc on a warne cantilever mount, on a psa dedicated upper with a 13.5" mlok rail, and a better mag adapter. Using s&w mp15-22 mags in 10 rd, and 10/25 bodies. I also have a strike industries extended bolt catch, I really like them
Did you get your lower yet? One thing I did not mention was when I first built mine my LPK had a notched hammer and for some reason it did not work very well. Just in case your hammer is notched I am throwing that out there. Once I changed the hammer I have had no issues since.
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I just bought a CA compliant Optics Ready MP15 on sale for $499.

I intend to use the MP15 upper exclusively w/my CMMG 22LR conversion kit attached to my already featureless converted Windham Weaponry lower.

Don't know if shooting 22 thru a 223 barrel significantly affects accuracy negatively but I'm just going to use it as a range toy at just 25-50 yds, so it really shouldn't matter all that much.
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I'm just going to use it as a range toy at just 25-50 yds, so it really shouldn't matter all that much.
If a .22 shoots one ragged hole at 25-50 yards or a 5" shotgun pattern makes a huge difference in the fun factor of a range toy. Don't mean to piss on your parade, but maybe shoot it first before saying it shouldn't matter.
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If a .22 shoots one ragged hole at 25-50 yards or a 5" shotgun pattern makes a huge difference in the fun factor of a range toy. Don't mean to piss on your parade, but maybe shoot it first before saying it shouldn't matter.
I know what you mean but I don't have high expectations for shooting the 22 conversion kit at 25-50 yds out of a 16" barrel using a cheap TRS-25 red dot.

I have already shot it out of my Windham Weaponry 16" M4 upper w/a TRS32 red dot at 25 yards and it will punch out the X on an NRA slow fire target (1.75") at that range. But I had to alter the POA on the red dot which was previously sighted in for 223. Bought the MP15 so that I would have a separate 16" upper set up and sighted in for both 22 & 223.

Haven't shot the conversion kit at 50 yds yet but, if all the shots stay in the black (5.5") at that range, which is equivalent to hitting a small steel target, that'll be fine. I can't do any better than that w/my 9mm Ruger PCC and TRS25 combo but it's still "fun" shooting that gun and it should be no different w/the CMMG kit.

My expectations are much higher when shooting 223 & 308 w/better optics and longer barrels at 100-200 yards
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I get my lowers out of jail next sunday. Went with an aero m4e1 for this 22lr build.

Yeah, i had the stepped trigger issue from my anderson lpk. Sent it back, they said they replaced the fcg, and it was exactly the same. Fixed it with a file myself...

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Take a look here, not that hard to convert the chamber adapter to accept a dedicated 22lr barrel (Grn Mtn).

http://www.22lrconversions.com/do-it-yourself.htm
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I know what you mean but I don't have high expectations for shooting the 22 conversion kit at 25-50 yds out of a 16" barrel using a cheap TRS-25 red dot.
I hear that, but if accuracy was really not comparable to a 10/22, Sig522, or whatever... I'd opt to shoot one of those instead. I went with a CMMG dedicated lightweight upper on a complete poly lower. The New Frontier lower works great after replacing the trigger group with an old Busmaster group... but I will swap in a CMC or Hiperfire EDT3 sooner or later. I shoot that AR22 with a TRS-25 FWIW. It hits where I put the dot.

I looked long and hard at the conversion bolts before I put the AR22 together.
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