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Old 08-21-2019, 4:14 PM
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Default LASD deputy ambushed outside Lancaster station

I know this is a dupe of an off topic thread but we all know how those threads end up sometimes...

A LASD Deputy was shot by a possible sniper outside the Lancaster Sheriff’s Station. SEB is on scene and they’re focusing on an apartment complex across the street. The deputy was hit in the shoulder and is in stable condition.

Hopefully they catch the POS

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...557787311.html

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https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2019...-up-the-story/

I sincerely hope they charge him with every thing possible in the PC.

And find him financially liable for all the expense he caused. Like Helo lifting 2 SEB teams over the mountains to Lancaster, dozens of deps on OT doing searches, lockdowns, residents evacuated, traffic control, etc, etc etc.
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what a complete idiot.

Well, I guess I'm glad this is how he flushed his career down the drain, rather than him taking someone else with him.

I read he is 21 years old; can't have been long out of the academy. I wonder if he wasn't doing so well on break-in and this was a feeble attempt to garner sympathy and divert attention away from his break-in performance.

Who knows. I hope he is charged and fired, we don't need morons like that.
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what a complete idiot.

Well, I guess I'm glad this is how he flushed his career down the drain, rather than him taking someone else with him.

I read he is 21 years old; can't have been long out of the academy. I wonder if he wasn't doing so well on break-in and this was a feeble attempt to garner sympathy and divert attention away from his break-in performance.

Who knows. I hope he is charged and fired, we don't need morons like that.
How did he make it out onto the streets so quickly though? Shouldn’t he still be downtown or Castaic?
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Lying LEO. End of his short career. Might end up behind bars instead of in front of them.
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How did he make it out onto the streets so quickly though? Shouldn’t he still be downtown or Castaic?
yeah I dunno, I don't know how LASO does their break in.
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How did he make it out onto the streets so quickly though? Shouldn’t he still be downtown or Castaic?
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yeah I dunno, I don't know how LASO does their break in.
From what I gather speaking to many LAS-Deps. One of which is my grandson. Another has been OTJ for 22 yrs and a Sgt working courts, with 5 kids.

Recruits can get into the academy at 20 yrs. If their 21st Bday is after graduation date. Rooks aren't spending near the time in custody as they once did. Increasing number of seasoned deps are filling positions in jails and courts, for the regular hrs, and abundant OT.

LASD is falling far short of contractual head count obligations with cities they serve. Many cities are threatening to create their own PDs. Lancaster as example.

So if this guy graduated shortly after his 21st Bday, and spent short time in custody. He would be on patrol with a FTO at 21 yrs.

My grandson was only at Castaic for a couple of months after graduation. Before going on probationary patrol at Lancaster station with a FTO.
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Looks like they did catch the POS like I was hoping for in my first post, it just wasn’t who I was expecting. This guy just gave another black eye to law enforcement in general and LASD in particular.

I don’t understand how he thought he could get away with it when supposedly he had no visible injuries. While I haven’t been shot personally, and hopefully never will, from everything I’ve seen online there is major bruising at minimum after taking a round to the vest.
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Another of Alex's fine gems.
According to Transparent California, he earned less than $100K for the last year listed, so he is somewhat new.
As an employee hired under the terms of PEPRA, he may loose his pension if terminated, but others here more familiar may offer insight on that.
Hopefully LACERA will make a case for it, but we will have to wait and see.
IMO the best way to "correct" wayward civil servants is to go after them financially, and reduce/eliminate pensions and other benefits whenever possible.

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The same reasons that Rampart happened. Background is ignored for political goals.

With the attacks on Law Enforcement highly qualified individuals want no part of the career, when they can make $ without the black balling by society.
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Another of Alex's fine gems.
According to Transparent California, he earned less than $100K for the last year listed, so he is somewhat new.
As an employee hired under the terms of PEPRA, he may loose his pension if terminated, but others here more familiar may offer insight on that.
Hopefully LACERA will make a case for it, but we will have to wait and see.
IMO the best way to "correct" wayward civil servants is to go after them financially, and reduce/eliminate pensions and other benefits whenever possible.
He hasn’t been on long enough to be vested in the retirement system. Even with a legitimate career ending injury, his pension would be so low that he’d barely get anything. The LA retirement system, LACERA, is based on age and years service. At 21 and probably less than 2 years on, he wouldn’t get squat. He has to have 5 years on to be vested in LACERA, and 10 years on before eligible to retire, regardless of age.


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Looks like they did catch the POS like I was hoping for in my first post, it just wasn’t who I was expecting. This guy just gave another black eye to law enforcement in general and LASD in particular.

I don’t understand how he thought he could get away with it when supposedly he had no visible injuries. While I haven’t been shot personally, and hopefully never will, from everything I’ve seen online there is major bruising at minimum after taking a round to the vest.
He was failing patrol training, so he wasn’t the sharpest crayon in the box. POS deserves to be prosecuted. He tarnished the badge and doesn’t deserve to ever wear it again.
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Another of Alex's fine gems.
According to Transparent California, he earned less than $100K for the last year listed, so he is somewhat new.
As an employee hired under the terms of PEPRA, he may loose his pension if terminated, but others here more familiar may offer insight on that.
Hopefully LACERA will make a case for it, but we will have to wait and see.
IMO the best way to "correct" wayward civil servants is to go after them financially, and reduce/eliminate pensions and other benefits whenever possible.
He was only on the department for a hot cup of coffee. He has basically nothing, zero, zilch as far as any pension benefits coming his way. He’s so done. Good riddens.
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He hasn’t been on long enough to be vested in the retirement system. Even with a legitimate career ending injury, his pension would be so low that he’d barely get anything. The LA retirement system, LACERA, is based on age and years service. At 21 and probably less than 2 years on, he wouldn’t get squat. He has to have 5 years on to be vested in LACERA, and 10 years on before eligible to retire, regardless of age.




He was failing patrol training, so he wasn’t the sharpest crayon in the box. POS deserves to be prosecuted. He tarnished the badge and doesn’t deserve to ever wear it again.
Thank you Ron for those facts. I wasn't sure how long he was on, and I thought the years for vesting were longer under safety plan "C".
I agree totally with your reply to the the second part as well. He is doing damage to all the hard work being done day in & out by the folks willing to confront societies' worst.
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Should be filed on and charged for the OT. Also sued by the guy whose residence was searched.
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POS deserves to be prosecuted. He tarnished the badge and doesn’t deserve to ever wear it again.
And forced to pay back the department for all of the hours and equipment costs invested in his shenanigans.
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Should be filed on and charged for the OT. Also sued by the guy whose residence was searched.
He will be filed on.
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Thank you Ron for those facts. I wasn't sure how long he was on, and I thought the years for vesting were longer under safety plan "C".
I agree totally with your reply to the the second part as well. He is doing damage to all the hard work being done day in & out by the folks willing to confront societies' worst.
He’s gone already. Must have still been on probation. Buh Bye, Turd.

I’m not sure about plan “C” members. I was on plan “B” and just missed plan “A” by a few months. The main difference between A & B now is the B cost of living increase is capped at 2% where A can get up to 3% based on the economy.
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Not so smart move. The forensic people find out quickly if it is real gunshot damage or not. haha
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His retirement is that LACERA will send him a check for the amount he contributed and that is all he will ever get.
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He’s gone already. Must have still been on probation. Buh Bye, Turd.

I’m not sure about plan “C” members. I was on plan “B” and just missed plan “A” by a few months. The main difference between A & B now is the B cost of living increase is capped at 2% where A can get up to 3% based on the economy.
"B" pays a slightly higher contribution rate, "C" even more, but no spousal medical after retirement. Hope you were able to utilize Ventura.
Last I read, there were seven (7) active Plan A Safety members in all of LACERA. I'm sure that has now decreased, but I personally know three. See what happens in March.
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"B" pays a slightly higher contribution rate, "C" even more, but no spousal medical after retirement. Hope you were able to utilize Ventura.
Last I read, there were seven (7) active Plan A Safety members in all of LACERA. I'm sure that has now decreased, but I personally know three. See what happens in March.
There’s more than 7. I know two from my tiny unit.
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"B" pays a slightly higher contribution rate, "C" even more, but no spousal medical after retirement. Hope you were able to utilize Ventura.
Last I read, there were seven (7) active Plan A Safety members in all of LACERA. I'm sure that has now decreased, but I personally know three. See what happens in March.
I went out as a top step lieutenant with a medical retirement based on multiple injuries that finally ended my career. We’re doing ok and have made several amazing trips to Europe and around the USA. Plus, I’ve added a few guns to my collection.
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The suspect was in my patrol school. He was having a hard time in training and about to get rolled up. Unfortunately this stuff makes us all look like baffoons.

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As has been said, he has been fired, but even if he is convicted of any charges (I believe filing a false police report is the only one), I doubt he will do any time, especially if he has a clean record.

The reason I say this is because of the following: There was a female deputy who was stopped outside Main Control at Men's Central Jail (CJ) by ICIB (Internal Criminal Investigative Bureau). Under warrant, they searched her backpack and recovered baggies of cocaine. She had been selling cocaine to inmates. When they searched her vehicle, they found a scale in the trunk. They also found a kilo of cocaine. She was allowed to resign in lieu of being fired and received probation because she had a clean record. If she can get probation for that, this kid probably won't do worse. BTW, Baca and Tanaka were in charge when this occurred.
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As has been said, he has been fired, but even if he is convicted of any charges (I believe filing a false police report is the only one), I doubt he will do any time, especially if he has a clean record.

The reason I say this is because of the following: There was a female deputy who was stopped outside Main Control at Men's Central Jail (CJ) by ICIB (Internal Criminal Investigative Bureau). Under warrant, they searched her backpack and recovered baggies of cocaine. She had been selling cocaine to inmates. When they searched her vehicle, they found a scale in the trunk. They also found a kilo of cocaine. She was allowed to resign in lieu of being fired and received probation because she had a clean record. If she can get probation for that, this kid probably won't do worse. BTW, Baca and Tanaka were in charge when this occurred.
Is County jail even housing post conviction non violent misdemeanor people?

Last I knew it was book and release for those types. Courthouse Deps were booking and releasing them from the courthouse.
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Is County jail even housing post conviction non violent misdemeanor people?

Last I knew it was book and release for those types. Courthouse Deps were booking and releasing them from the courthouse.
I can't answer that as I've been retired for 16yrs. and have absolutely no idea how things are done now.
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Is County jail even housing post conviction non violent misdemeanor people?

Last I knew it was book and release for those types. Courthouse Deps were booking and releasing them from the courthouse.
Wow, just Wow!
It amazes me to where we are headed.
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