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Old 10-13-2021, 10:58 AM
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We already knew they are moving the process online so that was a wasted question on CCW.

The question on whether the new LT affecting GC was a good one. The one we wanted answered. He did not answer the question, though. He skirted it. He said something like, No, the process to apply is more user friendly. That's not what the question was at all. The question was on good cause, not if it's more difficult to apply. That the disqualifiers were obvious things like convicted felon, you have a restraining order, etc.

At least it is on his radar that the people are aware that the new LT allegedly may be stricter than the prior one.
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Old 10-13-2021, 11:02 AM
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Next time, let's all get on there and ask specifically about the new LT denying the same GC that were previously accepted. If he still doesn't answer it, then we can all freak out. The question they wrote for him only said more strict, not necessarily what she's being more strict about. We gotta be specific here because he is most likely out of the loop on what exactly is going on with the CCW process.
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it sounded like nothing has changed with the GC requirement and his LT is supposedly acting in line. and they are trying to streamline the process to make it more achievable for those who want.

but again it seems like he is shying away from the questions as maybe to not overflow the dept and speed up the process?
Partially that. But also could be he knows that the true answer (no permits for LG good cause anymore) would piss people off, so he's dodging. I really hope I'm wrong.
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Old 10-13-2021, 11:04 AM
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Next time, let's all get on there and ask specifically about the new LT denying the same GC that were previously accepted. If he still doesn't answer it, then we can all freak out. The question they wrote for him only said more strict, not necessarily what she's being more strict about. We gotta be specific here because he is most likely out of the loop on what exactly is going on with the CCW process.
Good idea
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Old 10-13-2021, 11:06 AM
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Steady stream of pickups this morning...I'd say four went in ahead of me when I arrived and another four were waiting behind me when I left.
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Steady stream of pickups this morning...I'd say four went in ahead of me when I arrived and another four were waiting behind me when I left.
Congrats, man! We're all eager to get to your level
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Steady stream of pickups this morning...I'd say four went in ahead of me when I arrived and another four were waiting behind me when I left.
What's interesting is that the stream of pickups seems to emanate from people who were interviewed in June/July/Aug. Sept. is when change happened and I assume that the new LT can't override the prior one's approvals, just holding them back as much as possible
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What's interesting is that the stream of pickups seems to emanate from people who were interviewed in June/July/Aug. Sept. is when change happened and I assume that the new LT can't override the prior one's approvals, just holding them back as much as possible
Not necessarily true. I interviewed in June and I think almost all April guys and beyond interviewed at least from June some as late as September.
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update to my application, received email this morning after providing additional information that says "thank you sir, looks ready, pending approval". im guessing pending approval to continue to training?
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I'm still waiting on an answer to train or not.. My application was received April 5th...

I have a yellow and light green good cause.. This is brutal !!
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I'm still waiting on an answer to train or not.. My application was received April 5th...

I have a yellow and light green good cause.. This is brutal !!

Hang in there. I waited nearly 3 months after my livescan completed to hear back. As everyone has said before it seems everything isn't streamlined and a bit all over the place. But it'll come.
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Old 10-13-2021, 12:25 PM
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Good Afternoon guys, picked up permit today. about 5 other people there waiting also. Never thought this was possible. Hang in there guys!

Side note, good caused was mainly focused on my own business but i listed my primary occupation as well. On my card, they listed my primary occupation which has a lot less "risk" . If I quit my main occupation, does my permit become void?

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Old 10-13-2021, 12:44 PM
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Hang in there. I waited nearly 3 months after my live scan completed to hear back. As everyone has said before it seems everything isn't streamlined and a bit all over the place. But it'll come.
thanks bro.. Yeah I'm about 4 months waiting after livescan..
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thanks bro.. Yeah I'm about 4 months waiting after livescan..
I'm nearing four months after live scan clearing as well. Over six months now since mailing the application.
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Old 10-13-2021, 12:48 PM
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Did anyone actually do their livescan before interview and can confirm if it speeds you up? Interview is on Friday and last I spoke to ccw unit they have all my docs from DOJ.
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Anyone with a June Application received a interview call? im picking up every spam risk call just in case.
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Anyone with a June Application received a interview call? im picking up every spam risk call just in case.
It won't be spam risk...it will say unknown or No Caller ID.
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Did anyone actually do their livescan before interview and can confirm if it speeds you up? Interview is on Friday and last I spoke to ccw unit they have all my docs from DOJ.
Not sure if it speeds it up but some Deputies prior would be annoyed if you did it before being asked. Maybe it'll speed it up a little bit since they don't have to wait for the docs to come back.
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Am I the only early May applicant who hasn’t received an interview call? This guy submitted literally 4 days before me and already picked up his permit. That’s not me being “unlucky, submitted once the floodgates opened”. Something is clearly wrong.


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Old 10-13-2021, 1:24 PM
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Am I the only early May applicant who hasn’t received an interview call? This guy submitted literally 4 days before me and already picked up his permit. That’s not me being “unlucky, submitted once the floodgates opened”. Something is clearly wrong.


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I’m early May too, but I just done interview and livescan…. Not even training yet, who already got his permit in early May app ?


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Side note, good caused was mainly focused on my own business but i listed my primary occupation as well. On my card, they listed my primary occupation which has a lot less "risk" . If I quit my main occupation, does my permit become void?
Typically no, but as far as I know, the Sheriff has the power to void any permit he wants, for any reason he wants. I believe the OC Sheriff voided a bunch of permits issues by the previous Sheriff because they were issued corruptly to friends and contributors. I think that was the right thing to do, BTW.

He would have no reason to know that you quit, and there is no reason to tell him unless you signed something to the contrary. Just be very clear and explicit about this when it's time to renew.
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Old 10-13-2021, 1:38 PM
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So I’m debating if I should go ahead and do the training or not. Had my interview and it went well. “Hinted it was a for sure thing”. Live scanned that same day and cleared everything by 9/27. My plan is to do the training this Friday and not send it in until they instruct me to go to training. But I’m just afraid that if they see the date of the training they will get annoyed that I did it before instructed and perhaps prolong the process for me.
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Not sure if it speeds it up but some Deputies prior would be annoyed if you did it before being asked. Maybe it'll speed it up a little bit since they don't have to wait for the docs to come back.

Actually, when my deputy called me today to remind me of our interview this Friday, he said “make sure you bring all the documents listed on LASD.com, it helps speeds things up. *chuckle*”

So it looks like he wants to get through it fast I hope lol
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So I’m debating if I should go ahead and do the training or not. Had my interview and it went well. “Hinted it was a for sure thing”. Live scanned that same day and cleared everything by 9/27. My plan is to do the training this Friday and not send it in until they instruct me to go to training. But I’m just afraid that if they see the date of the training they will get annoyed that I did it before instructed and perhaps prolong the process for me.
There is really no reason to do this unless you (or your trainers) have a very unusual schedule. The process is so slow now you will have plenty of time to do it after your notification without setting your pickup back at all. Also, there is the chance that it could actually expire before they get around to reviewing it.

To all: Do we have any definitive statements from LASO on how long a training certificate is good for?
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There is really no reason to do this unless you (or your trainers) have a very unusual schedule. The process is so slow now you will have plenty of time to do it after your notification without setting your pickup back at all. Also, there is the chance that it could actually expire before they get around to reviewing it.

To all: Do we have any definitive statements from LASO on how long a training certificate is good for?

6 months. Asked CCW unit when I spoke to them.
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So I’m debating if I should go ahead and do the training or not. Had my interview and it went well. “Hinted it was a for sure thing”. Live scanned that same day and cleared everything by 9/27. My plan is to do the training this Friday and not send it in until they instruct me to go to training. But I’m just afraid that if they see the date of the training they will get annoyed that I did it before instructed and perhaps prolong the process for me.

Due to time constraints I had, and wanting to train with a certain group (approved), I did my training before my interview. I showed up with the paperwork and once he told me to go get the training and live scan I let him know I had already completed the training for the above reasons and understood it was no guarantee etc. He was happy I had done it already and took a look at some of my other advanced training certs. He was very pro training and said to keep it up.

I said either way I learnt a lot from the class regardless of my outcome. I went and did the live scan right after which was fully completed as per my timeline below.


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Old 10-13-2021, 1:45 PM
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I was told by the instructor they are generally good for 6 months.
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Actually, when my deputy called me today to remind me of our interview this Friday, he said “make sure you bring all the documents listed on LASD.com, it helps speeds things up. *chuckle*”

So it looks like he wants to get through it fast I hope lol
Well, once he gives it to the next level, that's where the hold up is lol. I'm sure you've seen it all over the place since you've been on this thread long enough

BTW, who is taking over the Sad Boys club? I have one leg out the door LOL
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6 months. Asked CCW unit when I spoke to them.
Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for.

@vanidoso87: Given the backlogs, and depending on your timeline, it's entirely possible that you could train now, and 6 months could pass before your approval, so I would wait if it were me.
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I’m early May too, but I just done interview and livescan…. Not even training yet, who already got his permit in early May app ?


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I didn’t say an Early May got their permit already. I said someone who submitted 5 days before me did. Taiko626 submitted on 4/28 and got issued. I submitted 5/3 and have not even interviewed.
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I didn’t say an Early May got their permit already. I said someone who submitted 5 days before me did. Taiko626 submitted on 4/28 and got issued. I submitted 5/3 and have not even interviewed.
Damn that’s crazy. What’s your GC look like. It’s possible yours got “misplaced”. Good luck to you man!
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I didn’t say an Early May got their permit already. I said someone who submitted 5 days before me did. Taiko626 submitted on 4/28 and got issued. I submitted 5/3 and have not even interviewed.

Just be patient, I submit 1 day after you and here is my timeline, hoping if I can get the training email/call before this year

5/4 - mail sent
5/5 - mail received
6/17 - check (cash)
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I would consider my GC “Light Red”. Direct relative of VIP who regularly receives threats.


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working on moving the process to online.

stating he spoke with LT this morning, wants to make the process more achievable but also wants to make it clear people disclose everything UP FRONT as they will find out through livescan.
Great news!

The first paragraph means the process should be streamlined, smoother and faster after the change. IOW he’s heard how long it’s been taking and is making this change in response (despite it’s disruption and costs). This has nothing to do with making GC or getting a CCW more achievable.

The second paragraph means he’s heard about the new denials. He’s spoken to the LT and told her to loosen issuance to AV’s previous standard (Light Green).

Last but not least, there’s no such thing as Too Much Information (TMI) for LASD when deciding if you have GMC. Better to over reveal than under.

All in all great news, even if we already heard about switching to online apps. For me the big thing is what this indicates: he didn’t back off from accepting LG GC and he isn’t buckling under the anti CCW pressure from the BoS. If you were denied recently you may want to ask to have your application reviewed again in a few weeks or once we hear of new LG GC approvals (the real acid test). But for now…

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Great news!

The first paragraph means the process should be streamlined, smoother and faster after the change. IOW he’s heard how long it’s been taking and is making this change in response (despite it’s disruption and costs). This has nothing to do with making GC or getting a CCW more achievable.

The second paragraph means he’s heard about the new denials. He’s spoken to the LT and told her to loosen issuance to AV’s previous standard (Light Green).

Last but not least, there’s no such thing as Too Much Information (TMI) for LASD when deciding if you have GMC. Better to over reveal than under.

All in all great news, even if we already heard about switching to online apps. For me the big thing is what this indicates: he didn’t back off from accepting LG GC and he isn’t buckling under the anti CCW pressure from the BoS. If you were denied recently you may want to ask to have your application reviewed again in a few weeks or once we hear of new LG GC approvals (the real acid test). But for now…

Viva Villanueva!!!
I wonder if it means they'll be contacting recently denied people to see if they still want to re-open the application
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Let's keep our fingers crossed. Also where possible, those who've been denied, start gathering your documentation to further backup your GC for re-consideration.
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Probably will wait then. Don’t want to have to do it twice.

Did my training in may, mine almost expired but good thing my interview is tomorrow
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I should say what I posted above is purely my interpretation, not based on anything a source inside LASD has told me. That’s why I said the acid test is seeing if we start hearing of CGNers with LG GC AND strong evidence getting approved for training. Remember your evidence is as important as your GC just as your character is as important as your background check for GMC.

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Let's keep our fingers crossed. Also where possible, those who've been denied, start gathering your documentation to further backup your GC for re-consideration.
Yes. When AV first started accepting Yellow GCs he had his CCW people call up Yellows they had denied and told them they could reactivate their apps and get approved if they wanted. People forget how pro CCW AV has been and are too quick to think the sky is falling….

The next few weeks should be telling.
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Just checking in..
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