COVID Booster Warning From FL Surgeon General, Advises People Not To Get New Vaccine

[TrappedinCalifornia]

COVID booster warning from Florida surgeon general, who advises people not to get new vaccine

While speaking at a Thursday news conference for Gov. Ron DeSantis in Jacksonville, Florida, Dr. Joseph Ladapo, that state's surgeon general, advised people to steer clear of the updated booster vaccine for COVID-19.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not yet approved the new vaccine - which is reportedly designed to protect against the BA.2.86 omicron subvariant.

"There's a new vaccine that?s coming around the corner, a new mRNA COVID-19 vaccine, and there's essentially no evidence for it," Ladapo said during the news conference, according to local news outlets.

"There's been no clinical trial done in human beings showing that it benefits people" he said.

"There's been no clinical trial showing that it is a safe product for people - and not only that, but then there are a lot of red flags."...

Dr. Marc Siegel, a professor of medicine at NYU Langone Medical Center and a Fox News medical contributor, pointed out that vaccines "have been given to trillions around the world and in the vast majority of cases, they are safe."

He told Fox News Digital, "Physicians with knowledge of vaccines should be involved in deciding the risk/benefit for their patients and offering advice, but it is ultimately up to the individual."...

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends that everyone six months and older in the United States receive a COVID-19 vaccination...

Moderna says new Covid booster works against the highly mutated BA.2.86 variant

...The updated booster generated a strong antibody response against BA.2.86, according to Moderna. The variant has not yet gained widespread prevalence in the United States but has raised alarm among experts and health officials because of its high number of mutations.

The data provided by Moderna, based on blood samples, has not yet undergone review from outside scientists. However, Moderna is the first Covid vaccine maker to release data on the effectiveness of the updated booster against the new variant.

In a statement Wednesday, drugmaker Pfizer said a recent preclinical study showed that its updated booster also generated a strong antibody response against a number of omicron variants, including BA.2.86...

However, data published this week from lab studies suggest that BA.2.86 may be less contagious and less immune invasive than previously feared...

Moderna's updated booster, which is expected to be authorized by the Food and Drug Administration as early as this week, along with updated shots from Pfizer-BioNTech and Novavax, is designed to target the XBB.1.5 omicron subvariant.

Though that particular strain is no longer dominant, recent lab studies in the U.S. have shown that the updated boosters should still provide protection against all current circulating subvariants, including BA.2.86...

Okay. Let's see if I've got this straight. Biden Wants New COVID Vaccine and May Require It For Everyone... However, the booster shot that's about to be released, according to Florida's Surgeon General has no evidence supporting it, no clinical trials showing benefits to humans, no clinical trial showing it to be safe for humans, and has other red flags. Those other red flags seem to include not having undergone review by non-manufacturer aligned scientists, only a 'recent' preclinical study showing antibody response against a variant it wasn't actually designed to address, and the Florida Surgeon General declared that the updated vaccines "actually cause cardiac injury in many people."

Ummm... Let me give it some consideration. Uhhh.... How about... No!!!

Then again, my "No" would probably be irrelevant given that it wouldn't be a 'booster' for me given that I remain unvaccinated.

[OlderThanDirt]

The lawlessness continues.

Trust in God and keep your powder dry. Don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes.

[Dan_Eastvale]

If 10% of those getting a vax get seriously ill or die within days of getting the vax, maybe it will finally make MSM and the sheeple will take notice.

It may actually take that much

Otherwise they'll continue to line up and continue to impose "mandates or else" policies

[FentanylFloyd]

Didnt get the first ones, wont get any others, if you're lining up for this updated one you're an even bigger cuck than when you lined up for the previous shots

[sigfan91]

I would encourage libtards to continue to get the Biden vaccine and keep up with the boosters, the more the merrier.

[therealnickb]

All I need to know about the safe and effective vaccines.

Sorry. Having no luck embedding this from Dr Campbell.

https://youtu.be/naopp_KF678?si=JdWt2QbZ9Ns_66P0

[Big Chudungus]

Finally one "Health Official" says the obvious.

"No evidence".

I remember, in the old days, doctors were criticized for poo-pooing any TRYING of any remedy for which there wasn't clear, re-tested, peer reviewed, clinical PUBLIC studies done with correct statistics, etc, etc. Basically anything not in The Lancet at least ten years ago didn't exist and "No evidence".

But there should be at least SOME evidence, or if that is not possible at least a nice theory and some data that is public, not demanding it be hidden for 75yrs.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

A juxtaposition to remember (1:15 in 1st video and 1:16 in the 2nd video)...



Then, 'in-between'...



Bear in mind that his appointment was along party lines...



Uhhh... The media has left me...

[Scota4570]

25% of people have an IQ under 90. One in four. Stupid people seem to be the most likely to get the boosters. I suppose they are doing the rest of us a service when they remove themselves from the gene pool.

I met a guy recently who was proud of having been boosted six times. He recently had to get a stint put in his heart for a serious blockage. He was absolutely clueless about the possible association. He also became very agitated at the suggestion that the boosters might be a bad idea and exactly why.

[twinfin]

Thought experiment: If this latest covid variant, BA.2.86, had just arrived on the scene and none of the original Wuhan lab leaked virus outbreak had occurred, would anyone have noticed?

In other words, why should we even care if we contract this latest version? The thing I find most interesting is the total lack of reporting on why this latest iteration should be feared other than its heritage with a once virulent virus that was of even then, dangerous to only a defined, small fraction of the population whos advanced age or preexisting conditions exposed them to poor outcomes.

All of these latest versions of covid share something in common and that is that they are mild, well tolerated and have little noticeable impact on the healthcare system. With that in mind, why all the drama?

The most important inoculation one could have today is the inoculation against our own government propaganda. Be informed, be wise and be well.

[sigfan91]

Originally Posted by Scota4570

25% of people have an IQ under 90. One in four. Stupid people seem to be the most likely to get the boosters. I suppose they are doing the rest of us a service when they remove themselves from the gene pool.

I met a guy recently who was proud of having been boosted six times. He recently had to get a stint put in his heart for a serious blockage. He was absolutely clueless about the possible association. He also became very agitated at the suggestion that the boosters might be a bad idea and exactly why.

You should encourage him to continue with the boosters.

[LBDamned]

Originally Posted by twinfin

Thought experiment: If this latest covid variant, BA.2.86, had just arrived on the scene and none of the original Wuhan lab leaked virus outbreak had occurred, would anyone have noticed?

In other words, why should we even care if we contract this latest version? The thing I find most interesting is the total lack of reporting on why this latest iteration should be feared other than its heritage with a once virulent virus that was of even then, dangerous to only a defined, small fraction of the population whos advanced age or preexisting conditions exposed them to poor outcomes.

All of these latest versions of covid share something in common and that is that they are mild, well tolerated and have little noticeable impact on the healthcare system. With that in mind, why all the drama?

The most important inoculation one could have today is the inoculation against our own government propaganda. Be informed, be wise and be well.

Because the next election is still 14 months away... give it time, it will happen.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Originally Posted by twinfin

Thought experiment: If this latest covid variant, BA.2.86, had just arrived on the scene and none of the original Wuhan lab leaked virus outbreak had occurred, would anyone have noticed?

In other words, why should we even care if we contract this latest version? The thing I find most interesting is the total lack of reporting on why this latest iteration should be feared other than its heritage with a once virulent virus that was of even then, dangerous to only a defined, small fraction of the population whos advanced age or preexisting conditions exposed them to poor outcomes.

All of these latest versions of covid share something in common and that is that they are mild, well tolerated and have little noticeable impact on the healthcare system. With that in mind, why all the drama?

The most important inoculation one could have today is the inoculation against our own government propaganda. Be informed, be wise and be well.

Why all the drama? Haven't you seen the headlines... COVID hospitalizations increase for 7th consecutive week but new boosters could help

COVID-19 hospitalizations are continuing to rise in the United States but there is hope that the uptick could be stemmed with the new boosters.

Hospitalizations increased 15.7% for the week ending Aug. 26 from 15,050 to 17,418, according to data updated Monday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

These are similar to levels seen in late March of this year and it marks the seventh consecutive week that hospitalizations have increased...

Just because they are lower rates than in the past, just because there are fewer deaths, just because there are fewer being placed in ICU...

More people infected... Panic... Bring back the mandates... Government needs to do something... Forget about your so-called 'rights'...

Don't you trust Government? Don't you trust the marketing? Sheesh...

[ibanezfoo]

Originally Posted by Dan_Eastvale

If 10% of those getting a vax get seriously ill or die within days of getting the vax, maybe it will finally make MSM and the sheeple will take notice.

It may actually take that much

Otherwise they'll continue to line up and continue to impose "mandates or else" policies

I have a personal "don't touch me or else" policy. The good thing about their masks is they catch all the teeth I smack out of their face.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Considering they are still trying to spin him as a 'kook,' perhaps he's on to something...

Column: Does Ron DeSantis even believe his dangerous B.S. about COVID vaccines?

...Even less of a surprise was the reaction of the resolutely anti-vax, anti-science Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. The Republican, who is angling for the GOP nomination for president, staged a roundtable of scientific mountebanks on Wednesday to attack the vaccines.

They included his crackpot state surgeon general, Joseph Ladapo, and Stanford professor Jay Bhattacharya, who is a member of a COVID-19 advisory committee assembled by DeSantis. Bhattacharya is also a purveyor of a fatuous program of useless anti-COVID policies that has been impervious to the raw data that persistently demonstrated that it did not work...

It raised the question of how many lives would be saved across the country if DeSantis' presidential campaign completes its glide path to irrelevancy, sapping his quest for the most politically expedient right-wing policy prescriptions.

The answer, conservatively, is hundreds of thousands. Florida boasts one of the worst COVID death rates in the nation, more than 391 deaths per 100,000 people. If Florida's rate were applied to the entire U.S. population instead of the national rate of 338.6 deaths per 100,000, then nearly 1.3 million Americans would have perished from the disease, instead of the documented toll of 1.1 million...

Ladapo opened the roundtable by stating, "We continue to live in a world where the CDC and the FDA, when it comes to COVID at least, are just beating their own path in a direction that's just inexplicable, in terms of thinking about data and thinking about common sense."

This is a guy who has promoted nostrums that science has shown to be utterly useless against COVID, such as the anti-parasitic ivermectin and the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine.

Ladapo turned the mic over to Bhattacharya. He aired the familiar anti-vaxxers' complaint that the new vaccine has not been subjected to a randomized clinical test. This is a claim popularized by anti-vaxxer Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and it?s utterly bogus.

As I reported earlier, randomized testing of every iteration of the current vaccines is unethical, unwise and unnecessary. The truth is that such trials are important when an entirely novel product is developed, as occurred when the mRNA vaccines against COVID most widely used today were originally developed by Moderna and Pfizer...

Until then, unfortunately, public health sits on a knife's edge. DeSantis and Ladapo are the most prominent public officials undermining the crucial effort to get more Americans vaccinated. As the toll continues to mount, the blood is on their hands.

In essence, it's a political hit piece, with the same old assertions about 'the science,' and includes a claim that new iterations of the vaccines don't require testing.

Uh... Which makes me more nervous? A recommendation to avoid untested or incompletely tested boosters or a political piece espousing the same old talking points? Let me think about that...

[uzigalil]

Originally Posted by sigfan91

I would encourage libtards to continue to get the Biden vaccine and keep up with the boosters, the more the merrier.

oh well which president started Operation Warp Speed ?????

Dont get it twisted, Trump is a piece of **** and Biden as well.

[sigfan91]

Originally Posted by uzigalil

oh well which president started Operation Warp Speed ?????

Dont get it twisted, Trump is a piece of **** and Biden as well.

I used to call it “Trump vaccine.” That’s just to mess with the libtards when everyone thought it actually worked. Now we know it’s a complete fraud, and Biden had been pushing it hard, I changed it to “Biden vaccine.”

Trump was misled by the establishment on the effectiveness of the technology (of the vaccine) back in 2020. That’s why he funded it. I suspect that had he known the technology never worked, he wouldn’t have thrown all that money at it.

[LBDamned]

Originally Posted by uzigalil

oh well which president started Operation Warp Speed ?????

and a bunch of leftist kooks lined up to get it.

Crazy huh

[ibanezfoo]

Originally Posted by LBDamned

and a bunch of leftist kooks lined up to get it.

Crazy huh

I wish they'd hurry up and stroke out already.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Originally Posted by sigfan91

I used to call it ?Trump vaccine.? That?s just to mess with the libtards when everyone thought it actually worked. Now we know it?s a complete fraud, and Biden had been pushing it hard, I changed it to ?Biden vaccine.?

Trump was misled by the establishment on the effectiveness of the technology (of the vaccine) back in 2020. That?s why he funded it. I suspect that had he known the technology never worked, he wouldn?t have thrown all that money at it.

Hindsight is usually 20/20 (no pun intended).

Bear in mind that it wasn't simply that he was 'misled,' but that many ignored certain 'constants' (in terms of how true vaccines are developed and deployed) to achieve a 'perception of protection' more quickly.

As the expression goes, "You can't cheat an honest man." Or, as Benjamin Franklin once said in a different context...

[sigfan91]

Originally Posted by TrappedinCalifornia

Hindsight is usually 20/20 (no pun intended).

Bear in mind that it wasn't simply that he was 'misled,' but that many ignored certain 'constants' (in terms of how true vaccines are developed and deployed) to achieve a 'perception of protection' more quickly.

That first thing that aroused my suspicion was how fast the so-called vaccine was ready. It was something like 4 months from the start of the shut-down to the vaccine being ready for test. Ebola virus was around for 40 years before we got a vaccine for it. Now they're telling me that we have a safe and effective vaccine for the most devastating pandemic in human history in only 4 months? Please excuse me if I don't share your enthusiasm.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Originally Posted by sigfan91

That first thing that aroused my suspicion was how fast the so-called vaccine was ready. It was something like 4 months from the start of the shut-down to the vaccine being ready for test. Ebola virus was around for 40 years before we got a vaccine for it. Now they're telling me that we have a safe and effective vaccine for the most devastating pandemic in human history in only 4 months? Please excuse me if I don't share your enthusiasm.

The typical 'years' in development was obviated by Operation Warp Speed, or so they claim... Vaccine Development, Testing, and Regulation...

EDITOR'S NOTE (7 May 2022): Many anti-vaccine people and organizations are not presenting the information in this article in full context. The article below mostly covers vaccines before the current COVID-19 pandemic. Please see the section on the COVID-19 pandemic and Operation Warp Speed for information on the COVID-19 vaccines.

Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years, and involves a combination of public and private involvement.

The current system for developing, testing, and regulating vaccines developed during the 20th century, as the groups involved standardized their procedures and regulations...

In late 2019, public health authorities in China detected a cluster of cases of pneumonia among residents of Wuhan in the Hubei Province of China. By January 2020, the virus causing the pneumonia cluster was identified as a novel coronavirus, designated "SARS CoV-2." The genetic sequence of the virus was shared by Chinese researchers with the world, along with samples of the virus. Laboratories around the world began working on a vaccine.

In the United States, the federal government provided vaccine manufacturers with funding to accelerate their research into vaccine candidates that could be delivered quickly and used as effective countermeasures against the pandemic. Traditionally, vaccine manufacturers would not begin phase II trials until phase I trials were done, and phase III would start after phase II. That process ensured that vaccines showing no promise in earlier trials would not waste resources in later trials. With the government money as a form of insurance against losses, vaccine manufacturers were able to perform different phases simultaneously.

This process allowed all safety and efficacy testing to be done simultaneously with the vaccine manufacturing. Under the original way of developing the vaccines, vaccine manufacturing at a large scale would not begin until the phase III trial results were done. With Operation Warp Speed, manufacturing began soon after the vaccines were found to be safe, and during the efficacy studies. If the vaccines were not efficacious, money from Operation Warp Speed would cover the losses.

The three vaccines (two mRNA and one viral vector) that resulted from Operation Warp Speed had all the same safety and efficacy studies as other vaccines before the pandemic. They used the same number of people in the same number of phases. The same safety checks were followed, and the data submitted to independent reviewers was the same as previous vaccines. The only change came from a compressed timeline, and that was possible because of funding to cover any losses previously covered by the manufacturers...

You see? You can eliminate the "years" by simply curtailing the process... right? Never mind the reasons behind the standardization of procedures and regulations. (I think I had this discussion with another member. I wonder who that was...)

[Bull Elk]

Florida? Makes sense.

[BrokerB]

Well you can be a Rocket Surgeon and still force boosters on your whole family....peer reviewed results! Safe and Effective!

[LBDamned]

Originally Posted by BrokerB

Well you can be a Rocket Surgeon and still force boosters on your whole family....peer reviewed results! Safe and Effective!

That because it's easily managed.