Smokeless Range ?

[harrye]

Hi Folks.

I seriously considering installing a ?smokelessrange? dry fire system at my home. Something along the lines of the Laser Ammo system. I?m looking for feedback from anyone who?s gone down this path.

TIA for any thoughts.

:harry

[anonymouscuban]

My opinion? Save your money. Pass on any of the lasers or other dry fire gadgets.

Buy Ben Stoeger?s Dry Fire Reloaded book, some scaled targets and some dummy rounds to simulate the weight of a loaded mag. Follow the drills in the book.

Your gun?s sights is all you need. They provide all the feedback and information required to get good through dry fire.


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[NorthBay Shooter]

Just buy a mobile range and forget about dry fire. https://www.srtlivefire.com/container-ranges

I would if I could... Seriously, anything that makes you train more is worth it. If you get excited about the laser stuff and you want to train daily, it is going to be good for you. If you can get excited about just doing drills from a training book. Same thing. It's about the practice.

[Djantlive]

Originally Posted by NorthBay Shooter

Just buy a mobile range and forget about dry fire. https://www.srtlivefire.com/container-ranges

I would if I could... Seriously, anything that makes you train more is worth it. If you get excited about the laser stuff and you want to train daily, it is going to be good for you. If you can get excited about just doing drills from a training book. Same thing. It's about the practice.

What's the cost of this mobile range? I'd imagine it's not for suburban use due to noise and code enforcement. If it's only for industrial application, then that may make sense. For rural area, an outdoor range would be more ideal.

[NorthBay Shooter]

Originally Posted by Djantlive

What's the cost of this mobile range? I'd imagine it's not for suburban use due to noise and code enforcement. If it's only for industrial application, then that may make sense. For rural area, an outdoor range would be more ideal.

they have sound proofing to a certain extent. They cost over 100k depending on options.

[anonymouscuban]

Originally Posted by NorthBay Shooter

they have sound proofing to a certain extent. They cost over 100k depending on options.

Imagine?

Doubles for breakfast. Doubles for lunch. Doubles for dinner. Midnight snack? Quick round of Doubles. LOL


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[hermosabeach]

I don't know if anyone who has one.

I do know several people who were instructor years ago.

They all did several 15 min dry fire sessions every night.


For many, doing dry practice and doing 10-20 sets a day of push ups helps a lot.

If you can only do 10 push ups, do sets of 6

During the day, knock out sets.


Build up.

[keimuka080123]

Originally Posted by harrye

Hi Folks.

I seriously considering installing a ?smokelessrange? dry fire system at my home. Something along the lines of the Laser Ammo system. I?m looking for feedback from anyone who?s gone down this path.

TIA for any thoughts.

:harry

novelty. will soon wear off.

why don't you try dry fire online

https://dryfireonline.com/


no need to get a laser gadget. just setup targets on big screen/projector. as @anonymouscuban said - all need are sights.

[mk2dave]

Originally Posted by keimuka080123

novelty. will soon wear off.

why don't you try dry fire online

https://dryfireonline.com/


no need to get a laser gadget. just setup targets on big screen/projector. as @anonymouscuban said - all need are sights.

I have some laser doohickey thingys. Can't get it to work with this system. Without the laser, might as well stick 3x5's on the wall. Easier and faster than my experience with this system.

Maybe I'm going something wrong?

[JoyfulJoker]

OP:

Take classes with Master Class or GM shooters. Ask them how they got so good. None of them use lasers or apps. Just a shot timer and a dry fire routine . I second Ben Stoegers Dry Fire Reloaded. You can get it with 1/4 scale targets. The timer lets you measure the improvement of your skills. Then you live fire , improve , adjust your dry fire. When you see famous shooters shilling for these gimmicks , it’s because that’s their sponsor , not how they got good .

The Dry Fire Reloaded Book lets you build up individual skills. It also breaks down basic skills into parts ( timed) . Then you put it together . It gets more and more advanced . It has blank lined space for you to log your challenges and times .

They have some dry fire mags that let you reset the trigger, but you don’t really need those either. $35 bucks versus a few hundred. It’s hard to find a good class , but if you can , it’s worth it. You’ll learn more in 1 full day class than in a year fumbling on your own.

When I don’t dry fire it shows . Shooting is a perishable skill . If I dry fired instead of wasting time on Calguns I would be a much better shooter.

[rodralig]

Originally Posted by mk2dave

I have some laser doohickey thingys. Can't get it to work with this system. Without the laser, might as well stick 3x5's on the wall. Easier and faster than my experience with this system.

Maybe I'm going something wrong?

I don't waste my time with lasers, apps, and stuff. I just pick a course of fire and project to the big TV (instead of setting up scaled targets, I can have my selection of paper, steel, etc. in varying scenarios). I then proceed with a simple routine - shot timer, snap cap loaded handgun, weighted magazines, etc.

Confirming a hit? Like I wrote, just "read your sights."

However, as I prefaced my response - it's novelty and will soon wear off... One will then notice that "old school" works best!


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[mk2dave]

You are right about the lasers not being worth my time. I was hoping they would work for a different application. I find lasers being useful for new shooters. It gets everyone comfortable with the manual of arms. New shooters wont reveal recoil anticipation because there isn't any recoil to anticipate (yet). But before going to the range, I can get people to group their laser shots fairly well. If they can be aware of what their body is doing, even better.

Then at the range, when the groups all go in a line to the 7 oclock... I can remind them... "Relax, shoot slower, and remember what you did when we were dry firing..." The fact that they (at the range) just need to replicate what they did during dry fire, and the fact that the laser showed them what they can accomplish if they just relax, seems to go a long way.

I was hoping the Stage Builder would help to keep things fresh, but no dice.