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Why Do Preppers fear running out of ammo?
Have two good friends with 10,000's of rounds of ammo keep telling me that I must get more. Mind you I live on a boat and weight is an issue on a sailboat. I was thinking about it though and realized if I ran out of 250 rounds of 45 acp, ran out of 500 rounds of 5.56 and the 100 rounds of 300 WM the SHTF would be real; and seriously if I went through that much ammo what chance in hell does one have on a fiberglass sailboat anyway?
My situation aside if I were land based I guess I don't see the need for more than I could shoot? How many rounds does a prepper think they can shoot without being shot? |
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Without ammo a gun might as well be an axe handle.
They could always buy a gun that shoots 21 different calibers.
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"You're going to need a bigger boat."
Let's see, in a shtf boating scenario you're either going to be boarded at night while you're sleeping or you're going to be trying to get away from a faster power boat or sailboat. ... "We should have shotguns." But seriously, if you think you can get some distance on the pirates boat you want the weapon that can reach the distance and dissuade them from chasing you. Your best weapon in that case would be a big bore high-powered high capacity rifle (a Barrett .50 caliber, if you live in another state and your rich) to make holes in their boat because you've also got to keep in mind that your boat is moving up and down and their boat is moving up and down in a chase scenario so you're going to be missing more than you're hitting. Depending on the distance you may not be aiming at the individual bad guys but just their boat. That's just going on my experience of having lived on a few boats ...and watching the movie Captain Ron two times. Last edited by sealocan; 01-12-2019 at 1:01 PM.. |
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I shoot 500 rounds a week to make sure when the time comes I only need 2.
OP since you don't see the need to practice you probably don't need any ammo. People who don't shoot always seem to think 10,000 rounds is a lot.
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Wait until Gavin gets wind of the proposed limit of buying no more than 20 rounds per month up in Oregon. He won't want to be shown up as being weak on gun restrictions.
Seriously, especially in CA where the politicians are a wild card, and in light of ammo shortages that happen from time to time, I think it's prudent to have a good supply on hand. Once you get a stock built up it's not that hard to maintain since at that point you just need to replace what you shoot. I haven't taken inventory lately, but we probably have 5k each of the calibers we shoot, and 20k or so of 22, which is different IMO since it's so cheap compared to other handgun/ rifle calibers. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk
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lots of people think they are one-shot-one-kill snipers and don't need much ammo. The reality is that in a two-way shootout, you're going to blast a lot of ammo that is not well aimed. Suppressing fire is very effective, at least with a rifle when the two sides are at some range. If you are blasting with pistol ammo at close range, frequently, then I don't think your survival chances are very long, and you might want to reconsider your tactics.
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I was trying out a new G27 today and went through 100 rnds in 15-20 mins and that was just to make sure it was working great. 1000 rounds is a couple of weeks worth of practice so 20,000 rnds is good for a year.
I am not looking forward to the new legislation. It's bad enough notgetting it delivered anymore. |
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My Vulcan Mini does chew through ALOT of ammo. Just sayin’.
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Like others said, for barter and trade.
Also, stock calibers for firearms you don't even have. Not only good for barter/trade but you never know if you'll have to resort to taking a firearm from a dead BG or neighbor, it would be nice to have at least a couple hundred rounds of the more common calibers out there. |
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It’s a stupid idea beyond currency. If you’ve blasted through that much ammunition and haven’t taken out any combatants to take ammo/weapons from, you’re doing something wrong.
I mean at that point I hope you’ve packed extra barrels. And you’re a helluva fighter to burn out a barrel in “combat” without dying. |
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Just another low post count account spreading a false narrative.
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I think that in the situation of the landless boat dweller, mobility has been traded for fixed position defense. On a sailboat, there is only so much you can carry due to limitations of weight and space. On the other hand, you have a tremendous opportunity to escape to a more favorable location compared to those trying to defend a fixed position. I can think of scenarios where mobility would be envied by the well armed sitting on a pile of ammo in a horribly dangerous environment that cannot be easily altered or escaped from. If I was boat bound, I think I would provision my boat with those things that would help me endure a long voyage at sea over things that would help me defend a chunk of land. Spare boat parts and things that can be traded with other mariners would have more value than an oversupply of ammunition. On the other hand, spare boat parts would do nothing for me on my rural property but extra ammo on the other hand, could be a valuable trade commodity. My view on ammo has been clarified by ammo shortages of the recent past. I am more aware of how quickly the supply can be shut off. I endeavor to meet three goals with ammo supply. Enough to shoot bad guys with, enough to practice with and enough to barter with. Add up what you think each of those needs require and that's how much ammo you should have, unless you're on a sailboat and will be getting out of Dodge before it all goes to pot! |
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I frequently shoot two or three times what you have in a single half day range session, and I go more often than most.
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10,000 rounds of each common defense caliber is a baseline for me. At least 500 rounds of less common stuff. Echoing what the other guys have spoken, my last range trip was 250 rounds of .45 ACP, 200 rounds of 10mm, and 100 rounds of 9mm. Pretty average for me... usually more 9mm and less 10mm, but you get the point. Good for what, a month?
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I might add OP, natural disaster and eco-collapse scenarios aren't the only possibilities. I'll bet there are a few folks in Australia that have way more guns and ammo than the gubm't knows about.
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I don't know that there is a magic number. I base my ammo on practice. If you aren't shooting 500 rounds a month (more is better), then you are not prepared and in practice to use a firearm in a stressful environment. 500 rounds a month for a year is 6K. buying in bulk gives you the best deal, so I would say buy 10K at a time (or find 10 people who shoot the same caliber and buy 100k at a time). Replenish whenever you feel the need to. Even better, reload.
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There's a difference between ammo for TEOTWAWKI and ammo stored to get a shooter through various droughts.
As a shooter, I keep tens of thousands of rounds around to avoid buying in tough markets and to get through a temporary drought. Any "prepper" who tells you they are storing tens of thousands of rounds just for the end of the world either hasn't thought it through or are just fantasizing. |
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EOTW scenario, I'm dead within two weeks. I hoard ammo because I want to buy it cheap, and I want to have enough to shoot for the rest of my life in this state. Plus, they aren't making Yugo surplus anymore!
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This!! There will be plenty of ammo laying on the ground
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Let’s be honest if you don’t have a bunch of ammo your probably not training nor have significant training. Most likely you will be laying on the ground with the ammo. FYI you only get one life. It’s not a video game.
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If it hits the fan, you only need enough to get the next guy's weapon and ammo.
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A lot of countries/people in WW2 wish they had more guns and ammo as they were being invaded. Who is the fool who thinks there will not be war on US soil again. Pull your head out and prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
If China was landing on the beaches of LA are you prepared? If we go to war with Mexico again, are you prepared? If CA goes Socialist and UT want to keep the Constitution- if civil war breaks out in the USA AGAIN, are you ready? How much AMMO do you need to protect GOD, FAMILY & COUNTRY? Answer= A LOT |
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I will never sell my guns, I will buy more, I will never sell my ammo, I will buy more. I will carry whenever I go out of the house. I will always have a gun by my side if I am not carrying.
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