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Old 08-11-2022, 8:06 AM
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I think Para died due to general quality of the guns. I purchased a para P13 new back in about 99. It was a rattle trap that wasn’t really accurate. Conversely, I had a rock island that was a laser beam of accuracy. On a positive the para was 100% reliable. It just came down to a fairy high priced gun that wasn’t as good as cheaper pistols I owned already.
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Old 08-11-2022, 8:14 AM
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I get it... want an officer size handgun with 1911 style trigger and grip, in 9mm that can use commonly avail cheap magazine.

Meh.. Personally I would just buy a proven CZ compact at less than half the cost.
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Old 08-11-2022, 9:28 AM
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^ That's a great CZ idea!
I'm going to start a Fictional thread about a new CZ that takes common, cheap and already widely owned Glock magazines...

Just to see if it brings out the same amount of 1911 versus Glock attitudes.






Somehow I don't think it will though.


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Old 08-11-2022, 9:56 AM
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The only other "1911" style guns I would own are

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Mustang

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/...ompact-pistol/
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Old 08-11-2022, 10:49 AM
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^ That's a great CZ idea!
I'm going to start a Fictional thread about a new CZ that takes common, cheap and already widely owned Glock magazines...

Just to see if it brings out the same amount of 1911 versus Glock attitudes.



Somehow I don't think it will though.

CZ guys are as bad as Glock or 1911 guys. They ignore all the faults of their chosen gun, and ignore all of the benefits of the other guns.

Glocks are light, affordable, reliable, high capacity, have no thumb safety to forget/accidentally engage, and accurate. Trigger leaves a lot to be desired, they come with crap sights, and they're pretty chunky.

1911s are accurate, very flat and concealable, and have a really nice trigger. Capacity is limited, they're heavy, and they can be kind of expensive.

CZs (talking CZ75 type guns here) are pretty ergonomic, can have a decent trigger, are accurate enough, have high capacity mags, and are thin and easy to conceal. They're heavy, have a less than ideal thumb safety, and have a history of breaking slide stops.

Which is best? That's for you to decide, you're spending your money, I'm not going to tell you what to buy.
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Old 08-11-2022, 11:17 AM
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The obvious solution is to buy several of many different types, a bunch of the various magazines, a trainload of ammunition, and many boxes of holsters. You then can carry a different gun, and change them out several times per day.
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Old 08-11-2022, 11:53 AM
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The obvious solution is to buy several of many different types, a bunch of the various magazines, a trainload of ammunition, and many boxes of holsters. You then can carry a different gun, and change them out several times per day.
That's what I do, but not the carry part. I only have one gun that gets carried, more cause I don't see the point in having more than one than any other reason.

I'd rather spend money on guns for games and fun.
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Old 08-11-2022, 1:11 PM
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It's too late guys, I talked to those powerful Illuminaughty people who standardized all batteries into common sizes like AA, AAA, D and C, they said they would use their powerful connections to standardized ALL magazines to be Glock mags starting next Wednesday.


They only ask that Every caliber will now become 9 mm parabellum and


We all have to stop buying C size batteries.


Sounds reasonable to me.



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Old 08-11-2022, 2:26 PM
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I just edited the title to ask the important question...
How much would you pay for one, just in case a company, like Rock Island Armory, was thinking about making something that accepted more the much more common double stack Glock mags?

I think there would be a market but it would have to be priced right.
I wouldn't pay a dime. The plastic magazine is the weakest part of the Glock system. Why would anyone want to use it?

Almost as important, why would anyone want a 9mm 1911? Can't stick .45's in those magazines.
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Another fine example of a 1911 owner...
Lets meet at the range.

Your plastic fantastic with whatever aftermarket trigger fanciest glock against my 2 daily carry stainless 1911's with home grown trigger work that still passes armorer inspection for ccw.

And then tell me your trigger doesnt suck and feel like a dry sponge.

I have 2 on my permit so one is down for cleaning, I just carry the other one.

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Old 08-11-2022, 7:45 PM
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Why would anyone want to tarnish the perfection of the 1911 by jamming a Glock into the 1911s innards?
Glock pox?
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Eww, no. Stop trying to make polymer framed 1911's happen.
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Old 08-11-2022, 8:48 PM
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Eww, no. Stop trying to make polymer framed 1911's happen.
Scandium was kind of a nice alternative.

But if done right, as BUL and STI/Staccato showed, polymer frame 1911s can be great guns and no reduction in capability/reliabilty over other lightweight frame 1911s.

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