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Damn Gray, you're a real youngster!!
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And we all look forward to the day when that changes.
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What? Were you a gay stripper?
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Yes. Especially if Nordyke is favorable which could be any day.
-Gene
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Alex: What was the result, and level of scrutiny utilized, in the Nordyke III case? Watson: What is, Fairgrounds are not sensitive places and strict scrutiny.
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Gene, I'm glad you said "any day" rather than that other phrase!!
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I am confused.
Yesterday I was told, by someone who should probably know, that Sheriff Munks is accepting "self-defense" as sufficient GC. Or specifically, that the intentional CGF plants/volunteers that were run through SMCSO previously used "self-defense" as their GC. I have no reason to doubt the veracity of the person who told me this - they are in a position to know or have access to know. Furthermore, they are not one to play games or hand out B.S. Was I misinformed by this person, or did the terms "CGF" and "good cause", bring about preferential/blind-eye treatment for those folks who went through the process in late 2010? The most recent Gene post I can find on the topic, from another forum, is that 'elevated GC' is still required. I suppose it is possible that the term "self-defense" was misinterpreted when I asked my question, but I can't be sure of that. I just want to know who, if anyone, is blowing smoke, or if this is a case of crossed wires. Quote:
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We await Nordyke and Richards at this time. If you have more information than above, I'd appreciate an email. -Gene
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Thanks, Ed!
C'mooooooooooooooooon, Nordyke! . . . more like TWO DECADES! than TWO WEEKS! . . .
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-Gene
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Gene Hoffman Chairman, California Gun Rights Foundation DONATE NOW to support the rights of California gun owners. Follow @cgfgunrights on Twitter. Opinions posted in this account are my own and not the approved position of any organization. I read PMs. But, if you need a response, include an email address or email me directly! "The problem with being a gun rights supporter is that the left hates guns and the right hates rights." -Anon
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What's your gut feeling on the "Will the 9th circuit get Nordyke right"? Have you looked at the makeup of the 9th? It's filled with appointees from President Carter. Leaving politics aside, we have to yet to find a judge in California who agrees with us on the carry issue. I realize you have no crystal ball (at least none that you'd admit to ) but what do you expect?
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-Gene
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Gene Hoffman Chairman, California Gun Rights Foundation DONATE NOW to support the rights of California gun owners. Follow @cgfgunrights on Twitter. Opinions posted in this account are my own and not the approved position of any organization. I read PMs. But, if you need a response, include an email address or email me directly! "The problem with being a gun rights supporter is that the left hates guns and the right hates rights." -Anon
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the more i've been reading about these rulings, starting with McDonald, to Heller, and now Nordyke. These are landmark cases!
People should look at these cases for its implications. Look beyond your personal agenda. This is way beyond that. Along the way, personal agendas will be satisfied, but Wow! hats off to those who have spent their hard earned time on making this better for everybody. |
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Any updates?
Also, could anyone who's been involved in or has knowledge of the good cause statements that led to successful issues please PM me to discuss a few things (that should be in my favor) that I'd rather not put out on the public forum? Thanks. Last edited by NorCalAthlete; 04-11-2011 at 7:44 PM.. |
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Nordyke will probably dictate which way SM goes and probably some other counties as well. For right now, you'll need something above self defense for good cause -- like transporting large sums of money.
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As Brandon would say "Don't forget Richards"
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-Gene
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Gene Hoffman Chairman, California Gun Rights Foundation DONATE NOW to support the rights of California gun owners. Follow @cgfgunrights on Twitter. Opinions posted in this account are my own and not the approved position of any organization. I read PMs. But, if you need a response, include an email address or email me directly! "The problem with being a gun rights supporter is that the left hates guns and the right hates rights." -Anon
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(Please?) You'll get this 'way cool logo for your posts!
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What bearing will the decision have? good, bad, or?
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Gloomy in San Mateo county
Yes it does. Between Jackie Speir and Jerry Hill, two politicians graded 'F' by the NRA, San Mateo county is a tough place to live, if you want to exercise your 2A right. I don't know about you folks, but this Nordyke decision has about sealed the deal for me. I need to get out of CA or at least the Bay Area. I don't think I can wait 2,3,4 more years for Nordyke to be settled once and for all. i don't ever see self defense being accepted as good cause here. There is nothing in Nordyke to make me think Sheriff Munks will change his issuance policy.
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As for the future of self defense issue, the Nordyke case didn't really hurt our chances there. CCW bans are Constitutional so long as another method of functional self defense carry is available. I contend UOC is not a practical method of carry, because of the unloaded requirement and because of the school zone restrictions. The Peruta court disagreed with me. If, however, a UOC ban is signed into law, I think the case for a fair CCW system is more forceful.
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Personally, I expect it to flop spectacularly since I think even with 'elevated' good cause, the county is being very picky.
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For the record, I did not give them a good cause statement! The deputy just asked a few quick questions, I answered vaguely and never even gave him my full name or address. They don't really want to issue at this time IMHO
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When you applied, was Munks the Sheriff?
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I am very interested to find out if people with average GC (no imminent, documented threats, restraining orders, etc) are currently being approved in San Mateo County. IMHO, I doubt it. I still don't believe that anyone with average GC has been approved within the last 6 months, besides the two that I know about.
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