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Old 08-05-2022, 5:02 PM
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Can folks recommend a CA on roster 1911 for concealed carry. Smaller is better for me but I don't want to sacrifice all the goodness that makes a 1911. BTW I can't afford a Wilson Combat lol.
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Jk. I’m only mostly aware of the full size models. Not much on the compact sizes other than Springfield EMP.
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Get a Wilson Combat jk

What’s your budget like? Perhaps the EMP (in 9mm) or carry a full-size?

Kimber has a compact model too (Ultra Carry II), but not sure about reliability (and rust) issues.
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I think the EMP may be off roster now. I guess that leaves Kimber or Rock Island for the lower cost options. RIA has a 3.5" on roster
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RIA 1911 compact then shoot well out of the box.
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RIA 1911 compact then shoot well out of the box.

I have a 1911 CS. Fun little gun but it’s heavy. No aluminum to reduce weight. And the CA version comes with GI sights. You could order a new slide with Novak sights though.

I sent mine back and they changed the main spring. I use chip McCormick mags and it runs flawless.

I think the EMP is still on roster. Kimber has sub compact 1911s but reliability is hit or miss and much more expensive than the RIA but definitely lighter. Kimber also has commander sized 1911s with aluminum frames on the roster but again, Kimber reliability rep has not been good of recent years.


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Dan Wesson Commander Classic (“CBOB”).

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Get a Wilson Combat jk

What’s your budget like? Perhaps the EMP (in 9mm) or carry a full-size?

Kimber has a compact model too (Ultra Carry II), but not sure about reliability (and rust) issues.
My budget is 1500
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My budget is 1500

I’d go EMP or Kimber Pro Carry and make sure I run them well to confirm reliability.


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Ed Brown Kobra Carry, used??
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Then I would look at the CBOB if you dont mind a full size grip and commander barrel.
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Then I would look at the CBOB if you dont mind a full size grip and commander barrel. One of the Kimbers would be worth a look too
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Then I would look at the CBOB if you dont mind a full size grip and commander barrel.

Not sure if CBOB meets the budget. It was around $1500 before Covid and I can’t imagine it being cheaper now.

If it does, that’s a tough gun to beat as long as OP is okay with weight.


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I have a Kimber Pro Carry that has served me very well. It’s my preferred carry when I can dress for it.
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There are two Dan Wessons on the roster...a 4.3" and a 5"...you can check the roster for the model numbers.

And Springfield Armory has this...you can filter it for 1911's...

https://www.springfield-armory.com/c...egal-firearms/
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Not sure if CBOB meets the budget. It was around $1500 before Covid and I can’t imagine it being cheaper now.

If it does, that’s a tough gun to beat as long as OP is okay with weight.


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Don't forget the RIA also has the stainless officer 3.5" with the tactical sights (the ones that were revived from the Charles Daly lines). I've never seen one in stock, but in theory they could show up!
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Can folks recommend a CA on roster 1911 for concealed carry. Smaller is better for me but I don't want to sacrifice all the goodness that makes a 1911. BTW I can't afford a Wilson Combat lol.
Op: I believe the State Senate Bill that will be coming up, concerning the new CCW law, it does not allow "cocked and locked" type pistols to be carried for CC.
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Dan Wesson Commander Classic (“CBOB”).

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This was exactly what came to my mind but only as a curious thought/dream. I don’t have a DW CBOB yet but I’ve thought about it often. I’ve thought of it as possibly the perfect range gun, carry gun, nice gun you can take pride in beyond being a tool haha. It definitely has gone up in price as the market dictates but I guess that’s a good thing. Even just looking at it again it just looks friggin right. I bet I’ll own one eventually.
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I just picked a Kimber Ultra Raptor. Great compact 1911. Previous owner used as his CCW.


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Op: I believe the State Senate Bill that will be coming up, concerning the new CCW law, it does not allow "cocked and locked" type pistols to be carried for CC.
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I was reading several weeks back, an article that described what new gun bills are coming up. I believe it was referring to SB 918, but not positive. But is said "cocked and locked" meaning one in the chamber-hammer back with a manual safety would not be allowed to carry concealed. I have no intention to knowingly post false information.
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I was reading several weeks back, an article that described what new gun bills are coming up. I believe it was referring to SB 918, but not positive. But is said "cocked and locked" meaning one in the chamber-hammer back with a manual safety would not be allowed to carry concealed. I have no intention to knowingly post false information.
You are correct regarding the bill number - here's a link to the text updated 29 June 2022:

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I searched the text in the link above for sb918 for either the word "cocked" or "safety" and did not find any reference to this issue.
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+1 EMP they are small Can get a 9mm or 40cal
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Great responses here. I appreciate everyone's guidance.
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If you are going the 9mm route, I recommend the Springfield Armory 1911 EMP.
If you are going the 45acp route, I recommend any of the Rock Island Armory CS models.
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I have a kimber tactical pro carry II, run wilson DE47 mags, always reliable and vary accurate.
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Any Kimber commander. Lightweight and small enough to conceal easily without being a problem for control or accuracy. I have no rust issues anywhere on mine (including the barrel). Silicone is your friend in this fight too.

If you shoot it a lot you'll eventually wear out the ramp but you can have a new steel ramp insert put in. Mine also broke the ejector because it's a MIM part. Get a new steel one installed for absolute reliability.

If you want it in 9mm, a Springfield Target is your only choice. Full sized and heavy but awesome functionally.

I never recommend compacts or ultra compacts for carry. The defensive range is too short for effective use. YMMV.
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+1 on the cbob, would suggest just saving up for it
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Also per the thread in the 2a section, 918 is dead.
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Can folks recommend a CA on roster 1911 for concealed carry. Smaller is better for me but I don't want to sacrifice all the goodness that makes a 1911. BTW I can't afford a Wilson Combat lol.
Do you live in a jurisdiction where only “on roster” pistols are allowed to be carried? If so that’s terrible.
I have a S&W PC1911 bobtail that would be perfect for you.
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I have and carry the full size Sig Nitron and love it.
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Another vote here. For the budget and CA approved the Cbob is a good choice.

I carried one a lot on long road trips. With a milt sparks holster it worked very well.
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Op: I believe the State Senate Bill that will be coming up, concerning the new CCW law, it does not allow "cocked and locked" type pistols to be carried for CC.
I believe if would help if you can post the law. IMO, cocked and locked saves a valuable few seconds that you might need.

As to what I carry, it's a lightweight Officer's model I purchased in Dallas in the late 1980's. I doubt it's on California's good list. It's under a small towel on the on the passenger's seat as I type this.
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Can folks recommend a CA on roster 1911 for concealed carry. Smaller is better for me but I don't want to sacrifice all the goodness that makes a 1911. BTW I can't afford a Wilson Combat lol.
I suppose we're all making assumptions re your CCW conditions - carrying all the time, regardless of weather and clothing. Winter time in Alaska, no problem. Summer in Redding, wearing a T shirt - more of a challenge. My "always carry" location is southern OR. Hot.

FWIW I've had an LTC/CCW since 1976. I started out with a Colt Commander and a Model 28 and lightened up over the years. To a Detonics and a Model 12 and eventually a Model 638 and a Kahr PM45.

Much as I like my DW CBOB it's just too much for me to carry when the temperature hits high and I'm in shorts and a T-shirt. Others may be OK with it, for me it's too big and too much weight. I can slouch down to 6'4" and am under 200 lbs. I have the space, so to speak.

If a 1911 type is what matters I think the EMP, the 3" alloy Kimbers and RIA 3" are the only "on roster" that lend themselves to constant, comfortable carry in all weather conditions and with no printing. I have a 3" CDP and a Raptor and they work fine. The 1911 I carry on occasion is an old Defender. It rattles like a can of rocks but feeds everything, including 255 grain LSWC designed for 45 Colt.

You may want to consider used "on roster" too. I paid about $900.00 for the Raptor and CDP used, IIRC they run about $1,400.00 new.
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