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Old 09-12-2022, 10:57 AM
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Wink List of companies NOT to support or buy from

Is there a list of firearm companies that we should not buy, endorse or support. More from an awareness standpoint. I have become more of a vote with my dollar consumer over the years. There have been quite a few companies over the recent past that have overstepped that have been counterproductive to our rights and hobby imo. I am more focused on firearm specific companies or ones associated with the industry as they should be in the know. If we dont have one, can we have a list stickied please? Thank you.
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Old 09-12-2022, 2:56 PM
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off the top of my head, there may be more once i'm reminded

-black rifle coffee(disavowing rittenhouse and "maga" conservatives, and 2a)

-glock(supporting fbi, atf, irs, etc)

-hornady(for complying with vax mandate and threatening lay offs)

-rainier arms(handing over customer information)

-big daddy unlimited(hosting gun buybacks, trying to throw frt under the bus, making deals with atf for immunity in the process)

-benchmade(helping to destroy guns for gun buybacks)
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Old 09-12-2022, 3:08 PM
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here's a list from some months ago
https://www.ammoland.com/2022/01/lis...EMAIL_CAMPAIGN)
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Daniel Defense? (For supporting the continued existence of the "AFT").
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Daniel Defense? (For supporting the continued existence of the "AFT").
they said that in the context of congressional struggle session in the wake of uvalde. that's not the venue to reveal your true thoughts to the hyenas asking the questions

https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-08-...bbing-atf.html
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Not gun related, but it's gear you might use.
Carhartt(same reason as hornady-for complying with vax mandate and threatening lay offs)
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I would not avoid ruger or any other company for saying the ATF should be disbanded. Does anyone need a history lesson on fed agencies that have unlimited power and resources?
That said way too many use Costco when a progun Sams Club is a better alternative in every respect.
The NRA also has an ANTIGUN list for those wanting to take a stand to a higher level.
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Thank you. Others i am aware of are
-springfield arms
- rra
as they backed a contributed to anti gun politicians.
-Troy
-hs precision
for their hiring practices
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I would not avoid ruger or any other company for saying the ATF should be disbanded. Does anyone need a history lesson on fed agencies that have unlimited power and resources?
You have it backwards.
Ruger did not say the ATF should be disbanded. In fact quite the opposite.

“ The CEOs of gunmakers Ruger and Daniel Defense are drawing major heat online after both of them testified before a congressional committee earlier this week that they wholeheartedly support the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, more popularly known as the ATF.”

https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-08-...bing-atf.html#

Screw Ruger and Daniel defense.


Not that I was going to buy an overhyped and overrated DD anyway, but that Ruger Alaskan I was thinking about just turned into another S&W purchase.

Eff both those companies…
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these guys maintain a list, if you see a company on there, you can usually web search for the reasoning why:

https://acvetfs.com/boycotts/
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That list is a general consumer goods and services which dont hide the fact that they are anti 2a. I guess Iam looking for a firearm specific industry list as we are in the know per se. Would it be possible to generate our own list so we don't unknowingly support companies that are out to make a buck off of us and then stab us in the back?
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That list is a general consumer goods and services which dont hide the fact that they are anti 2a. I guess Iam looking for a firearm specific industry list as we are in the know per se.
Would it be possible to generate our own list so we don't unknowingly support companies that are out to make a buck off of us and then stab us in the back?
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Is there a list of firearm companies that we should not buy, endorse or support. More from an awareness standpoint. I have become more of a vote with my dollar consumer over the years. There have been quite a few companies over the recent past that have overstepped that have been counterproductive to our rights and hobby imo. I am more focused on firearm specific companies or ones associated with the industry as they should be in the know. If we dont have one, can we have a list stickied please? Thank you.
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Ruger? Daniel Defense? Glock? That sucks! Sams club is pro gun?
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these guys maintain a list, if you see a company on there, you can usually web search for the reasoning why:

https://acvetfs.com/boycotts/
I see GM there but not Ford.

And comments, dundeal?
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NEITHER DESERVE THE PATRONAGE OF 2A ADVOCATES.
Old joke:

Golda Meir comes to Moscow, and Brezhnev falls madly in love with her. He gives her gifts, calls her a hundred times a day, requires her constant attention. Golda does not know what to do, and finally she makes a decision.

“Leonid,” she says. - I can't do this anymore. I'll be yours, but on one condition. First, you will open all the borders, and those who want to leave will be able to do so without any obstacles.

Brezhnev looks at Golda with adoration and says with a happy smile: - Plutovka ! I understood - You want to be alone with me.
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You have it backwards.
Ruger did not say the ATF should be disbanded. In fact quite the opposite.

“ The CEOs of gunmakers Ruger and Daniel Defense are drawing major heat online after both of them testified before a congressional committee earlier this week that they wholeheartedly support the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, more popularly known as the ATF.”

https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-08-...bing-atf.html#

Screw Ruger and Daniel defense.


Not that I was going to buy an overhyped and overrated DD anyway, but that Ruger Alaskan I was thinking about just turned into another S&W purchase.

Eff both those companies…
Here is what I said ,

"I would not avoid ruger or any other company for saying the ATF should be disbanded. What I meant was I would not avoid any company for saying the ATF should not be disbanded.

Does anyone need a history lesson on fed agencies that have unlimited power and resources?"
I meant that because theses agencies can do whatever they want, to who ever they want, at any time they want, going against them could be very dangerous and it repercussions severe .
Maybe you have forgotten what its like to have unlimited, wealth ,power and favorable media auspices .
FWIW The guy who approved of shooting a mother in the face was promoted and the agency heralded as crime fighters .
Only a moron company or CEO would challenge their existence. As if it would matter to the occupation government what anyone thought.

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