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Old 11-07-2019, 6:51 PM
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Default New rossi r92, gtg?

Bought a Henry big boy brass in 45lc from a friend a couple yrs ago. It was his dads who passed away and he was trying to raise some cash for him mom... gun was one of the last his dad bought, didn’t have any sentimental value supposedly... told my friend if he or any of his siblings ever wanted it back I’d sell back to them, but in meantime I’d be honored to own his dads rifle.

now a couple yrs later he wants it back, no biggie, take it. Been thinking of getting a rossi anyway, in 357. Thinking 20” SS .357, $545.

Went to LGS today to see if they had anything in stock to look at, just a 16” blued 45lc. Fine, it’ll let me hold one. Faaaack, what an ugly duckling! Wood firmest was actually pretty good, but my kids red Ryder has better looking wood, feed gate was full of gunk, receiver looked like it had been kicked around the store for an hour, end of barrel had wear on the finish. I know it’s just a $500 rossi but that’s the worst looking new firearm I’ve ever seen...

Hoping the SS would be better looking with a few scratches. Doesn’t have to be a showpiece but I try to care for my guns, hate to start out with such an abused looking one.

My question is this. New recent production Rossi’s good to go? Have Any reliability issues? Anything that can be done to the stock to purdy it up a little? Better off paying $710 for big boy steel with Henry’s customer service reputation?
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73's are the hot ticket in Cowboy Action. Uberti's are really nice looking but not cheap.
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Hoping the SS would be better looking with a few scratches. Doesnít have to be a showpiece but I try to care for my guns, hate to start out with such an abused looking one.
They manage to screw up the SS models too. I'll dros my 4th R92 next week. The 3 that I have (sold the 44) all had problems. They use different hardwoods that hardly ever match and have very little grain. They don't come close to the qualty of Winchester but even my new Winchester 92 in 45colt had to be sent back for work.
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I bought a Rossi 92 around 6-7 years ago, it simply works. It isn't pretty but it functions well...more so after slicking it up with the Steve's Gunz video.
I wish these guns came more as a kit gun and a few bucks cheaper.
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Old 11-07-2019, 9:42 PM
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Pretty hard to compare a R92 to a Winchester when the latter is more than twice the cost.
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The older ones are not bad looking at all. Nice dark wood, color case hardened receiver. PM if youíre interested in this one. I stopped shooting cowboy action several years back.




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Old 11-08-2019, 5:26 AM
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Not really interested in shooting cowboy action, or spending any more than the Henry. I know people like the older Rossi’s, even if they are s little tough aroun the edges, just curious about the ones they’re making now after their hiatus. I was shocked at the appearance of the one I saw, and the owner said it had only been on the shelf for a few days. Would’ve bet it was used and had been on a horse back hunting trip getting knocked around. Thinking it might be smart to kick it a nickel and upgrade to the Henry.
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Not really interested in shooting cowboy action, or spending any more than the Henry. I know people like the older Rossiís, even if they are s little tough aroun the edges, just curious about the ones theyíre making now after their hiatus. I was shocked at the appearance of the one I saw, and the owner said it had only been on the shelf for a few days. Wouldíve bet it was used and had been on a horse back hunting trip getting knocked around. Thinking it might be smart to kick it a nickel and upgrade to the Henry.
It might be worth your time to read some info on the Rossi Rifleman forum.

http://www.rossi-rifleman.com/viewforum.php?f=9

Haven't been over there for a while, but I recall finding some good info on that site before.
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Not really interested in shooting cowboy action, or spending any more than the Henry. I know people like the older Rossiís, even if they are s little tough aroun the edges, just curious about the ones theyíre making now after their hiatus. I was shocked at the appearance of the one I saw, and the owner said it had only been on the shelf for a few days. Wouldíve bet it was used and had been on a horse back hunting trip getting knocked around. Thinking it might be smart to kick it a nickel and upgrade to the Henry.


Henry makes a great rifle with a very smooth action, but loading that tube from the front with the plunger sticking way out was always a deal breaker for me. The loading gate is, IMO, part of the joy of a lever action.

The one in the photo above would be cheaper than a new Rossi - way cheaper than a Henry.


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Old 11-08-2019, 8:01 AM
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The older ones are not bad looking at all. Nice dark wood, color case hardened receiver. PM if you’re interested in this one. I stopped shooting cowboy action several years back.




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Nothing has changed. Cycling and double feeds are still a problem.
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Bought a Henry big boy brass in 45lc from a friend a couple yrs ago. It was his dads who passed away and he was trying to raise some cash for him mom... gun was one of the last his dad bought, didn’t have any sentimental value supposedly... told my friend if he or any of his siblings ever wanted it back I’d sell back to them, but in meantime I’d be honored to own his dads rifle.

now a couple yrs later he wants it back, no biggie, take it. Been thinking of getting a rossi anyway, in 357. Thinking 20” SS .357, $545.

Went to LGS today to see if they had anything in stock to look at, just a 16” blued 45lc. Fine, it’ll let me hold one. Faaaack, what an ugly duckling! Wood firmest was actually pretty good, but my kids red Ryder has better looking wood, feed gate was full of gunk, receiver looked like it had been kicked around the store for an hour, end of barrel had wear on the finish. I know it’s just a $500 rossi but that’s the worst looking new firearm I’ve ever seen...

Hoping the SS would be better looking with a few scratches. Doesn’t have to be a showpiece but I try to care for my guns, hate to start out with such an abused looking one.

My question is this. New recent production Rossi’s good to go? Have Any reliability issues? Anything that can be done to the stock to purdy it up a little? Better off paying $710 for big boy steel with Henry’s customer service reputation?
I picked up a slightly used Rossi 92 stainless a few months back, 357 chambering. I also bought a spring kit (not sure from where on line, small seller) and did a fair amount of polishing with wet 'n dry fine grit paper. Makes quite a difference.

The Rossi wood is bland and too light, fairly soft. You can buy from Boyds, but that ups the cost by about $150.00. And you lose the curved metal buttstock, which I kind of like. I used Pilkingtons "Winchester pre-64" stain and finished with Fairtrimmers Military XO. No need to strip or sand, the Pilkingtons is alcohol based and penetrates, stays put. I let it dry overnight before applying XO. Be careful, the stock can get dark real quick.

My main gripe is that damn safety. I removed the one on mine and inserted a plug. If I sell the thing I'll reinstall. Others may prefer to keep it on.

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Old 11-08-2019, 10:57 AM
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Iíve got a brand new 16Ē stainless .44 sitting in the safe at home, got it about 10 days ago. Hoping Iíll have time this weekend to shoot it and Iíll let you know how it goes
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:15 AM
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Hey dc, common 240 grain .44 Mag loads will feel like something from that sub-6 lb carbine, but it should also be a metric sheet ton of fun!

Looking fwd to hearing of your results.
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Yeah, I like the idea of these 200 grain 900 FPS loads, but since itís new wanted to try multiple loads to see what works. The copper solids I grabbed as they were the option in stock and Iím going turkey hunting in a couple of weeks, grabbed a pig tag for when I go and figured Iíd bring this along for the heck of it.
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Sorry, I was getting my wires crossed with another thread. I got a box of 240 grain rounds rated at 1275 FPS, a box of 200 grain at 900, and 225 copper solids at 1225.
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you can broaden your search parameters, OP - LSI marketed them as a Puma M92
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Remember to thoroughly clean your bore of copper jacket (gilded metal alloy) fouling before using the pure copper solids. Barnes offers such a solvent, be advised its has a heavy concentration of ammonia in it. But it works.
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I got two R92 couple years ago and they looked fine. Nice wood fit and finish. I did the Steve Gunz treatment. Function is perfect for hundreds of rounds.

One in 45lc 20" octagonal bbl (it's heavy) and a 357 mag 16" bbl. Great fun to shoot and double fun to shoot fast!
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Henry makes a great rifle with a very smooth action, but loading that tube from the front with the plunger sticking way out was always a deal breaker for me. The loading gate is, IMO, part of the joy of a lever action.

The one in the photo above would be cheaper than a new Rossi - way cheaper than a Henry.


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IIRC, Henry started making models with side loading.


Not in pistol calibers as far as I know.


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Nothing has changed. Cycling and double feeds are still a problem.


Thatís what Iím worried about. By the time I buy the rossi and the safety plug Iím within 130 bucks of the Henry steel... others are talking spring kits etc... so for 100$ more Iíll have the Henry that is made in USA and has customer service thatíll bend over backwards to solve a problem.

Leaning towards made in America or not at all!
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So I shot my new 16Ē .44 first time ever today. Iím not too confident in my own abilities with this wee little rifle so I brought my own target stand to set up a 50 yard target on the 100 yard range.

Gun ran fine, no issues. Loading gate was tight but once I got the hang of driving the shells in then up it was easy. Gun is tight but cycled 100%, no issues.

The cheap 900 FPS rounds were a delight and had no recoil. The 225 grain Barnes copper solids shot well and didnít have too much worse recoil. The gun actually performed best with a box of Hornady lever evolution 225 grain ammo. Itís actually funny because my vision sucks and the people next to me were commenting on the insane report of those rounds going off. I thought Iíd go check the target and see I shagged rounds all over the place but it was a decent group. Iíll post that pic below. All of the rounds did well, didnít bring a ruler but all in all it was all 2.5-4Ē groups, which isnít great but 50 yards offhand itís minute of pig.
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I've got the stainless 20" in .45 Colt.

Love this gun.

Very handy to stow in tight places and light as a feather.

Great for camping or canoeing.
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I have an older Rossi .45 and a newer one in .44 with the safety. Neither has been a problem. The .45 is fun and shoots wells. The .44 does jump a bit with full magnum loads, but also functions fine with .44 SPL rounds. I handload so it is not an issue. I generally stick to RNFP, SP or HP jacketed. I also usually shoot the powder coated bullets in the rifles when shooting cast.
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I picked up a new R92 a few months back. It's a little bit of an ugly duckling. The fit and finish of the metal, particularly at the loading gate, leaves some to be desired. I haven't experienced any reliability issues with the rifle. It's a little stiff, but I suppose that has something to do with the newness. I'm sure it'll smooth out after more range time.
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You guys aren't helping my will power at all! Nice and light .357 Rossi would be the cats a**!

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If you slug the barrel, you might find the need for a fatter bullet.
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