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Early 700P twist rate.
I recently purchased an older 700P with a 26" barrel.
Searching the web I came across several different sources stating a 1-12 twist rate. I decided to call Remington to find the exact date of manufacture based on serial number. I was told a manufacture date of 2000. I then asked what kind of rifling and twist rate, to which the reply was standard rifling (not 5R) and a twist rate of 1-10. I know that current SPS models with the shorter barrel is 1-10, but I've always understood that the longer 26" barrel 700P used the slower twist rate of 1-12. Anyone here have an older 700P with 26" barrel with documentation that states twist rate? |
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Seems like the general consensus here is 1-12 for the 26" pipe also. Quote:
If the Order No. is something I can get from Remington when I supply the serial #, I'll call back and see if it includes model specific details like twist rate and barrel length. Thanks for the replies. |
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Don't know about all the generations, but circa late 1990's, I had one that was 1-12. Regardless, 1-10 will do you just fine.
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Not sure why the Remington rep on the phone insisted the rifling was 1-10. I know the SPS is 1-10, but since we were specifically discussing an older 26" barreled 700P there's no excuse for him to give inaccurate info. |
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True. But now that I know for sure it's a 1-12 I'll focus my load development in the 155gr~168gr bullet selection range.
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That would be a 1:12 twist with a 24" long barrel. Around 2006, the PSS was replaced by the 700P. That should be a 26" barrel with a 1:12 twist. Measure the barrel length from the center of the gas relief hole on the side of the reciever. Does yours have a 24" or 26" barrel?
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They might not have even looked up the correct barrel length as the length effects what twist they use. 26" 308's get 1:12. 24" 5R 308's get 1:11.25 20" and 22" 308's get 1:10
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You don't need to worry about 175's unless you had the barrel shortened to 20" or if you are running the velocity lower than common match ammo. Most factory Remington barrels won't shoot 155's well.
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Or, for a more detailed explanation, start a patch or brush in the rifling. With a sharpie, mark a line along the top of the rod for about 14". Mark a ring around the rod at some repeatable point (where it enters the receiver, rear of the stock, whatever you choose.) Push rod into the bore until the line along the top is back at the top. Mark another ring at the point you used the first time. Remove rod and measure the distance between the rings. |
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Thanks for the input and suggestions. |
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The barrel is definitely 1-12. |
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2.820" OAL with a 175 SMK. The sweet spot is usually 43.5 If you don't want to waste the time, just load 43.5 A 26" 308 700 that won't shoot well there usually has a shooter problem.
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I have been curious what my 700V 308 is. I got it new in '86.
All that time. I have been meaning to check with a cleaning rod and patch... I had loaded for it in the past, but misplaced my notes. Had nice antelope loads of 165bthp Sierra Gameking in Federal match brass, over 4064. I just got a box of Lapua brass and some 168 SMK's to try. Planned to stick with 4064 since had good results in the past. |
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My SPS Varmint (26") purchased in early 2015 was a 1-12". Factory twist rate depends on specifically what model you're talking about.
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Finally checked last night. My '80's Rem 700V BDL is 1-12".
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I bought a new 700P in 2012 from turners. Based on the serial number, it was manufactured in 1995. I was puzzled by that. Did Remington have an old stash from the 1990s that they decided to sell in 2010s?
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Measure from the muzzle to the center of the gas vent hole on the side of the reciever.
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RR sounds like a new action
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This is the table I went by
http://guncollectionsonline.com/remingtonmodel700.htm Correction. I bought it Dec 2014. Last edited by ngnrnlo; 05-13-2019 at 2:21 PM.. |
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That's not from 1995 then.
That's a post 2010 receiver. The first RR prefix 700 receiver I have built on according to my build sheets was in 2013 so that does not agree with what Remington's historian supposedly told someone else about RR prefix starting 2015 to 2017 and definetly does not jive with yours being from 1995. This is the best info I have: Quote:
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I had a guy Sat. at the range ask what bullet I was using? when I told him SMK 175gr he said that they wouldn't shoot well in my 1:12 twist. Then I showed him my targets that were 5 shots 1/2" and less. He said that I must have an odd ball barrel. I told him OK.
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Just because the gun will don't mean the shooter will.
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Wait, I thought everything I read on the internet is true!
I feel I'm a decent shooter, but I know in most cases I'm the limitation, not my rifle. |
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Good call on your part.....No reason to engage a "Range Monkey"......
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