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Old 03-12-2019, 4:57 PM
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Been thinking of getting into long range shooting, mostly for fun and to try something new. I’ve been looking at savage 110/112 models in .338 Lapua. Anyone have one or know someone with one that has any insight? Reasonable first long range gun? Pos? I know savage rifles aren’t necesarily the best but I have a couple others and they fit the bill for their intended purpose. What say you?
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You won't find a more accurate gun for the price, actually you probably won't find a more accurate gun for twice the price.

I'm not just a Savage fan boy as I have more guns of different makes than Savages but I can argue that they are probably the most accurate major maker production guns on the market. I think that you can make other guns more accurate, you just have to throw more money at them.
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That’s right in line with everything I’ve been reading and watching on YouTube. People seem to like them. I just like to ask lots of questions if possible of people more knowledgeable than I am. Long range (>400 yds) is definitely new to me! I value any and all advice!
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Repeater or single shot?

Savage has a model 12 magnum target Single shot.
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Both bolt guns, 110 has the box magazine, 112 is single shot.
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I have to say I REALLY like my savages. I don't have any custom actioned rifles to compare them to. The bolt might not be as smooth as my M70 or new Howa and they might not be as sexy as my R700's but they flat out shoot.
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Id get the 112 Mag Target single shot if going 338 Lapua. The extra strength would make me feel better.
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Luckily, that’s the one my lgs has in stock. Going to try to go have a look this weekend.
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Just found one of these NIB ppt locally, thoughts compared to the savages?

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Bolt design is very similar. Id get the Savage but the Ruger Precision has a very good reputation in the smaller chambers.
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Savage has a little coupon for some free gear with purchase of a gun.

the shirt is pick your size small to 3X plus you get a range bag.



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Good to know, thanks! I made it to the lgs this morning, held it in my arms... felt good, looks like fun, a bit more digging on reviews then probably go back and make a purchase next week. Anyone with more insight on the gun or the cartridge please feel free to chime in, I welcome any and all input!
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If you can swing the price difference, I think you'll be much happier with the RPR magnum. It's more expensive, but I think it's a much better deal. In addition to a modern action design, you get a usable adjustable stock, a 30 moa rail, and 2 Accurate Magazine AICS pattern magazines that are ~$180 for the pair.

I have 3 ELR rigs that are based on Savage donor rifles and have built 2 more for friends, so I'm not a Savage hater. Those rifles all have action work and XLR chassis.

I bought the RPR338 when they were introduced last fall and there simply isn't any comparison. I can't tell you how it shoots because I rebarreled it with a longer 300 Norma barrel before trying the factory barrel. I replaced the trigger, but it wasn't awful, and didn't have to rework the action. I expect that we'll start seeing barrel kits for it by the end of the year.

Recoil is an issue with the 338 Lapua, and the RPR adjustable stock is going to make it a lot easier to manage. The RPR338 is massive, which also helps with the recoil. The action, bolt, and barrel tenon are all larger than many custom 338 actions.
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Once you get it, you'll probably want to start reloading for it. Not a whole lot of 338 ammo in Stanislaus. Think you'll have fun.
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Once you get it, you'll probably want to start reloading for it. Not a whole lot of 338 ammo in Stanislaus. Think you'll have fun.
Yes I was planning on reloading, already have everything to reload for other calibers, just need the dies.
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I’m not really worried about the magazines with the ruger. It’s not really a gun to be cranking out the rounds at high rate, single shot will be plenty. I like the weight of the ruger, but be most accounts the savage isn’t bad to shoot at all. Still researching and reading/watching reviews, we’ll see...
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Recoil isnt bad at all in the Savage. The brake works well.
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Also want to point out the RPR and Savage bolts are very similar in design.
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The Ruger's weight is a love/hate thing but having a folding stock is nice for portability and storage.
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The Ruger's weight is a love/hate thing but having a folding stock is nice for portability and storage.
I can see what you mean with the weight, the savage didn’t feel bad at all at 12#, till you try to pack it into the hills...

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Bolt head and lugs are about the same size, both have an internal bolt face ejector, and both use a sliding style extractor. The strength of the RPR bolt is misleading since the main body behind the lugs dont help much. The biggest difference is the RPR has 3 lugs vs 2 on the Savage. But the Savage lugs are a bit beefier.
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Can you talk a bit about which 110 you are looking at and why you want to go with the 338? Are you planning on shooting beyond 1000 yards? Out to a mile? Do you want a traditional stock or a chases? What's your price range? What scope are you planning on?

I'd argue that unless you're trying to make that mile shot then why spend the extra money on the 338? Why deal with the recoil? Why not go with 6.5CM and keep it to 1200 Yards? You’ll find ammo most places and you can shoot all day without killing your shoulder. For a factory PRS (precision Rifle Series) type gun people will recommend the RPR or one of the Tikka t3x ctr or tikka (actually they will tell you to go custom) ..but it sort of depends on what your budget is. If I were you, I'd look at what others recommend as entry level PRS guns—Like a Tikka.

I've got a magazine fed Savage 12 LRP and love it. I've taken it out to 1200 yards on large targets and to 800 on some 9" steel. It weighs 15 lbs with a vortex viper PST on it and shoots great. My wife shot it and was hitting that same steal on her first shot. Unfortunately, it took me some time to get it there. Initially the barrel was misaligned and I had to send the rifle to Savage, on my dime, so they could replace the barrel. When I got it back the chamber was too tight so I had to send it back. It shoots amazing but left a bitter taste in my mouth when I had to spend $150 for shipping and 4 months of my time.

The take home point is get a tikka t3 ctr or tac a1 in 6.5CM or a RPR in 6.5CM, but get the tikka. At least check out what people say about them. Snipers hide is a better place for this sort of conversation.

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I have the 112 target. Love it. My buddy who has the tactical model savage said he should have bought my rifle. He says the mags suck and are expensive. The ergonomics of the pistol grip shooting prone. Accuracy wise it’s more accurate than I am.
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Also want to point out the RPR and Savage bolts are very similar in design.
A lot of stuff on recent Rugers looks very familiar if you're used to Savages. Not saying Ruger is ripping Savage off, but...
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I was actually mainly looking at the 112 target, single shot. The 110s have the magazine that I don’t really see the need for, I don’t think I’ll be needing to fire rounds at any kind of speed. What I’m leaning towards is this:

https://www.savagearms.com/firearms/...-magnum-target

Definitely planning on working up to the mile shot, I have the area to do it right outside my door. Not sure how long it’ll take me to get there, but looks like a good time and it’s something to work towards...

Budget: I’d like to keep the rifle and scope around 2-2500$, not looking for high end but don’t want to step in a pile of crap either. I want a shooter, not a showpiece. I have a couple savages and have friends that have more, all have had good experiences with them.

338 isn’t a big cost problem if you load your own. Looks like I can load 338 for ~$1.25pr without buying anything in bulk.
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Under 900 bucks here:
https://www.g4gguns.com/products/rif...1356224484-322

Seems like the best deal for a scope would be the SWFA Super Sniper fixed power. Tons of elevation range and a low price. Supposedly the best fit of magnification and glass quality is the 12x. That's a bit low for a mile shot, so maybe the 20x would be better even if the image is not so clear. Luckily for you they are cheap enough to buy both, and use the 12x for shorter shots and try the 20x for the mile if the 12x is not enough.
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Seems like the best deal for a scope would be the SWFA Super Sniper fixed power. Tons of elevation range and a low price. Supposedly the best fit of magnification and glass quality is the 12x. That's a bit low for a mile shot, so maybe the 20x would be better even if the image is not so clear. Luckily for you they are cheap enough to buy both, and use the 12x for shorter shots and try the 20x for the mile if the 12x is not enough.
Damn, those scopes do have a ton of elevation! The couple scopes I’d been looking at were 6-24x50, with 65-70 Moa of elevation adjustment, for around the same as a couple of those swfa(~700$)... also a great deal on the gun, thanks! I’m hoping my lgs will play ball a bit on the price to get it off the shelf.
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Another important factor in choosing a scope is the durability to handle the heavy recoil. The SWFA SS's claim to fame was that it was the only reasonably priced to scope that could survive Serbu's (and others) .50 BMG, or at least was warrantied to survive. So whatever you choose for that gun, check with the manufacturer.
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Will do for sure, definitely don’t want to buy something that can’t handle it.
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Well, Life has been crazy but I finally got around to it! I bought the Savage 112 target today! I’m stoked, looking forward to getting her dialed in... now time to shop for a scope...
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Oh I won’t! In my dealing w the LGS, i got a bit of a cash discount but asked for it in form of them paying DROS and the safety card rather then taking off the gun price... that way I get more rebate.
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Well, Life has been crazy but I finally got around to it! I bought the Savage 112 target today! I’m stoked, looking forward to getting her dialed in... now time to shop for a scope...


I'll double down on the fixed magnification SWFA scopes. I have 5 (6x, 10x, 10x side focus, 16x, and 20x) and they are all great. Perfect tracking and very sturdy. Regularly take them off and put them back on without change in POI or zero. I would spend the extra on the HD model if you're planning on a mile shot. I'm still saving for it, but you can get the 5-20x50 for a hair over 1k and I challenge you to find a bad review on it. Doesn't have illumination or a zero stop (add $2-300 for illumination, and $22 on eBay for a drop in zero stop, excellent reviews). Often compared with glass twice the price, and favorably at that.

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Been thinking of getting into long range shooting, mostly for fun and to try something new.
I’ve been looking at.338 Lapua.
Reasonable first long range gun?
Absolutely not.
338 lapua is good for 1400yds and beyond, but useless at closer ranges than 1000yds and way more yhan you need for just 1000yds.

A good 6mm or 6.5mm will be better for out to 1400yds as it will recoil much less, cost less and be much more enjoyable to shoot for more rounds before your concentration is worn out.
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Don't buy a scope with less than a 34mm tube.
Don't buy a scope with elevation travel specified in MOA for field shooting.
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I'll double down on the fixed magnification SWFA scopes. I have 5 (6x, 10x, 10x side focus, 16x, and 20x) and they are all great. Perfect tracking and very sturdy. Regularly take them off and put them back on without change in POI or zero. I would spend the extra on the HD model if you're planning on a mile shot. I'm still saving for it, but you can get the 5-20x50 for a hair over 1k and I challenge you to find a bad review on it. Doesn't have illumination or a zero stop (add $2-300 for illumination, and $22 on eBay for a drop in zero stop, excellent reviews). Often compared with glass twice the price, and favorably at that.

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Absolutely not.
338 lapua is good for 1400yds and beyond, but useless at closer ranges than 1000yds and way more yhan you need for just 1000yds.

A good 6mm or 6.5mm will be better for out to 1400yds as it will recoil much less, cost less and be much more enjoyable to shoot for more rounds before your concentration is worn out.
Lol, day late and a dollar short on that recommendation, already own it. Guess I’ll just have to put on my big boy pants and shoot over 1400 yds... can’t be that hard...
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